Eddystone?

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Nostalgia. History Buff. My dad toted one in the Pacific for Japs until he could get an M1 Carbine. They also had a Thompson in their squad. They were attached to McArthers Army, to the Air Corp. They came in after an Island (supposedly) was taken and ran the commo for the airfields. They fought bookoo stragglers. My uncle gave me a pristine M1917 from his death bed when I was 16. I shot it awhile, then had it sporterized later in life. It was a shooter. Eddystone was not as popular for rebarreling/rechambering due to its action being very brittle. Remingtons and Winchesters were the most sought after. I can remember as a kid seeing them in the GI Surplus for $65! But the minimum wage was 60 cents an hour! ha You could buy them fully sporterized from herters for around $120, ha.
 
I shot my first deer with a 1917 Remington stamped one that had a shortened stock, just slightly sporterized I suppose. I think this one is very nice. They just have such a classic military look. They are fairly short for military in my opinion and still a bit heavy from what I recall.
The metal butt plate was a bit harsh on the shoulder from what I remember. I liked the compartment in the buttplate for a cleaning kit which mine did not have. I kept a couple more 30-06 cartridges in there.
I liked the protected sights. The ladder peep sight was very nice. I don't think I shot more than a couple boxes of ammo out of mine and owned it for about 6 years before I regretfully sold it. One that is unaltered and mostly original like this one would probably get 650-750 when the hammer falls then add the 50 bucks shipping.
There is some talk about the barrels being shot out in these so if you go to buy one, it is my understanding to be sure the rifling is still good. They scream USA!
 
My father in law taught me to shoot with his 1917 Eddystone. It's the first high power rifle I ever held and I bought it from his estate after he died so it holds a lot of sentimental value for me. I compete with it in C&R matches.

The story is he bought it after WW II when they were being sold as surplus. It was still in cosmolene and bears the cartouches of RIA. My guess is it was re-barreled, stored and never used. It basically sat in his basement leaned up against the basement wall for its entire life being taken out once a year to go deer hunting. Once I took possession of it, cleaned it up and got it to a firing range I found it shot very high and to the left. It was however, extremely accurate. There is no windage adjustment on this rifle so I had to get a new higher front sight and had to make a front sight adjustment tool from a SKS front sight tool to push the front sight to correct the windage. Here's a picture of how the gun originally shot, the SKS tool and how I modified it by milling the end of the rod to work with the Eddystone:
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I have dealt with and have several 1917 rifles and its cousin P14 Enfields including Eddystone and Winchester.
Eddystones are generally cheaper because 1) there are more of them produced than by Remington and Winchester, 2) they have a reputation for cracking at the front receiver ring, 3) some claim that the workmanship on the Eddystones regarding fit and finish are inferior to the other two.

The P14 action (and its cousin the later 1917 U.S. Rifle) is a massively overbuilt Mauser type action, when compared with the Mauser 98, and when the action is sound is fit for a number of magnums. It is a heavy rifle in battle form and when compared with the 1903 Springfield, seems to be lacking in aesthetics. It is also a more involved issue to sporterize the rifle than a Mauser or Springfield. That being said, I find it of comparable accuracy to my 1903's, its battle sights are better than the original 1903's, and its felt recoil is softer with the bonus of one more .30-06 round in the magazine than the 1903. It's P14 cousin is ridiculously overbuilt for the .303 round and has even softer recoil with fine accuracy. The dogleg bolt takes a little getting used to if you are used to Mauser/Springfield types in rapid fire if you are shooting competition.

As far as the cracking issue goes, some claim that Eddystone barrels were overtorqued with machine tools, some claim inferior heat treatment of receivers, and still others claim that over the top proof loads damaged the receivers and they cracked when the old barrels are removed. Unlike the 1903 known issue with heat treatment problems documented extensively, the 1917 rifle and the P14 problems have appeared more of a sporadic nature and whether Eddystones are more prone than other makes for cracking relies primarily on anecdotes rather than government reports on quality control issues. I am sure that others may disagree but my opinion is to buy it if you want and if the price is right.

So, if you want one, get one as the prices are rising, but make sure that you have an inspection and return period and have a gunsmith check the receiver for cracks before you shoot it. It is not probable that there is a problem but unscrupulous sellers do sometimes sell rifles with known issues. You can also find a number of sporterized P14's and 1917's floating around at relatively cheap prices so don't buy one in military garb and then spend a bunch to sporterize it. You will actually subtract value as the military ones in good condition now bring more than the sporterized ones. Hope this helps, I am sure that others will be along to voice their opinions as well.
 
I have dealt with and have several 1917 rifles and its cousin P14 Enfields including Eddystone and Winchester.
Eddystones are generally cheaper because 1) there are more of them produced than by Remington and Winchester, 2) they have a reputation for cracking at the front receiver ring, 3) some claim that the workmanship on the Eddystones regarding fit and finish are inferior to the other two.

The P14 action (and its cousin the later 1917 U.S. Rifle) is a massively overbuilt Mauser type action, when compared with the Mauser 98, and when the action is sound is fit for a number of magnums. It is a heavy rifle in battle form and when compared with the 1903 Springfield, seems to be lacking in aesthetics. It is also a more involved issue to sporterize the rifle than a Mauser or Springfield. That being said, I find it of comparable accuracy to my 1903's, its battle sights are better than the original 1903's, and its felt recoil is softer with the bonus of one more .30-06 round in the magazine than the 1903. It's P14 cousin is ridiculously overbuilt for the .303 round and has even softer recoil with fine accuracy. The dogleg bolt takes a little getting used to if you are used to Mauser/Springfield types in rapid fire if you are shooting competition.

As far as the cracking issue goes, some claim that Eddystone barrels were overtorqued with machine tools, some claim inferior heat treatment of receivers, and still others claim that over the top proof loads damaged the receivers and they cracked when the old barrels are removed. Unlike the 1903 known issue with heat treatment problems documented extensively, the 1917 rifle and the P14 problems have appeared more of a sporadic nature and whether Eddystones are more prone than other makes for cracking relies primarily on anecdotes rather than government reports on quality control issues. I am sure that others may disagree but my opinion is to buy it if you want and if the price is right.

So, if you want one, get one as the prices are rising, but make sure that you have an inspection and return period and have a gunsmith check the receiver for cracks before you shoot it. It is not probable that there is a problem but unscrupulous sellers do sometimes sell rifles with known issues. You can also find a number of sporterized P14's and 1917's floating around at relatively cheap prices so don't buy one in military garb and then spend a bunch to sporterize it. You will actually subtract value as the military ones in good condition now bring more than the sporterized ones. Hope this helps, I am sure that others will be along to voice their opinions as well.
 
The 1917 is one of the toughest rifles ever built. They shoot great. You can still find good samples of these rifles at reasonable prices.
 
Seller doesn't know the meaning of the word 'mint'. It's in excellent condition, but 'mint' it ain't.
However, milsurps of that vintage have character. More 'modern' stuff just doesn't. Especially to those of us who were raised on(by?) Sgts Saunders, Troy and Moffitt(Rat Patrol. Geez.). Plus a horde of others.
 
Eddystone was a Remington owned plant... And I have a Remington marked 1917.

First shots were dead on. I've never needed to tweek the sights at all.

That gun you want is history. And $450 is cheap. GRAB IT.

Deaf
 
I gave my last 1917 to my Bro in law....Eddystone rebuilt at one time and never reissued....sure would like it back, maybe if bro-in-law got lost in the wilds of Idaho i could reclaim it....food for thought:)
 
In reference to the GB listing, that gun is certainly not "mint." It's in average condition. Even the sling is incorrect. The bidding is currently more or less what it's worth. I would not bid higher on this. By comparison, in my area, the going rate at gun shows for M1917 Enfields in truly "excellent" condition is around $800.

Regarding the Eddystone cracked receiver issue, that should not be a problem as long as the rifle has its original barrel. The cracks (in relatively few cases) happened when the original barrels were removed in WW2 for rebarreling. You need to check for a crack only when (a) it's an Eddystone receiver (not Remington or Winchester), and (b) when the barrel is marked "JA" (for Johnson Automatics) or "HS" (for High Standard). BTW, the cracks are extremely difficult to see with the naked eye.
 
The eddystone was the first 30-06 I had a real chance to do some long range shooting with, and that battle sight is amazing if its not bent. The rifle is about 1.5# more than the 1903 but it lightens the recoil a bit. The steel buttpad isn't comfortable with only a T-shirt between you and it, but what a fun gun to shoot! I currently have one in 300 winmag sporterized, and I wish I still had a standard military version...
 
You're drawn to it because you have good taste and the 1917 is a beautiful, tough, accurate, and historically important rifle.

My Remington:
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There's one in my family that belonged to my grandpa that he purchased after he returned from the war. I've shot every big game animal with it, it's my good luck gun. I love that gun, and I'm even hunting with it this year. It's sporterized and has a vortex scope on it.
 
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