Enlighten me on the CZ P01
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Gary G23
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Mine has been 100%.
No more noticeable recoil than any other 9mm I've shot.
About the same size but slightly chunkier. Still easy to carry.
No more noticeable recoil than any other 9mm I've shot.
About the same size but slightly chunkier. Still easy to carry.
schmeky
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I had a G19. . . didn't connect with it. I shot a couple thousand rounds through it, just never was a good fit for me. Reliable and pretty easy to conceal. Sold it, but still have a G17.
I think you'll be pleased, maybe even thrilled a P-01. I'm not a big DA/SA fan, but CZ's can be carried cocked/locked. I strongly suggest a Wolf 15# mainspring.
My SP-01 is so accurate, it's not a question of if I'll hit my target (within reasonable defensive ranges), but where I want to hit the target.
I think you'll be pleased, maybe even thrilled a P-01. I'm not a big DA/SA fan, but CZ's can be carried cocked/locked. I strongly suggest a Wolf 15# mainspring.
My SP-01 is so accurate, it's not a question of if I'll hit my target (within reasonable defensive ranges), but where I want to hit the target.
Reliability: 2600 rounds of 9mm with no cleaning or lube. No failures of any kind. One bad primer that resisted multiple strikes.
Recoil: Low bore axis and metal construction plus 9mm = low recoil.
Size: Thicker than a 19, but fills the hand better.
A P01 does not lend itself to slingshot racking as the serrations are too small for that (slide inside frame instead of outside frame like Glock).
Recoil: Low bore axis and metal construction plus 9mm = low recoil.
Size: Thicker than a 19, but fills the hand better.
A P01 does not lend itself to slingshot racking as the serrations are too small for that (slide inside frame instead of outside frame like Glock).
Treo
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QUOTE: "Your life will never be complete until you own at least one CZ"
Yeah, like anyone owns just one CZ.
go get it
Yeah, like anyone owns just one CZ.
go get it
The P01 is the same width as far as frame, and slide, however the grip is wider side to side, but slimmer frt to back. Recoil is about the same as the G19. My P01 fits well in my G23 holster, but the decock lever spreads it a bit at the back. The trigger reach in DA is way longer than the Glock, so you better go find one in a gun store, and try it on. CZs are very reliable, great choice for a ccw
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bikerdoc
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not only will your life be complete you will get taller, lose wgt, and be better looking- it will be the first but not the last
I only own one (says the poor college student who is franticly trying to save up for a 75 Compact and 452).
People who own CZs on average live 20% longer then people who don't and CZs also improve your sex life. 9 out of ten hot super models find a CZ owner more attractive then a Glock owner and are seeking out CZ owners for a partner.I got these statistics from a very reliable source but I do not remember where.
Technosavant
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1) Reliability: Thus far, absolute.
2) Recoil: Negligible. Compared to a nice and heavy full size 1911 in .45ACP, it's practically a .22.
3) Size: Can't compare it to a G19, but it is just big enough to fill the hand (many compact guns can be too small to hold well), but small enough to hide extremely easily.
The only thing about it that I don't love is the trigger pull, but then again, I'm no huge fan of DA pulls. SA is nice, but not awesome.
I highly recommend the P-01.
2) Recoil: Negligible. Compared to a nice and heavy full size 1911 in .45ACP, it's practically a .22.
3) Size: Can't compare it to a G19, but it is just big enough to fill the hand (many compact guns can be too small to hold well), but small enough to hide extremely easily.
The only thing about it that I don't love is the trigger pull, but then again, I'm no huge fan of DA pulls. SA is nice, but not awesome.
I highly recommend the P-01.
armoredman
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Sheesh...layin' it on think, are we?
Note, the CZ PO1 and CZ PCR compacts cannot be carried cocked and locked - they are decocker equipped. The steel frame CZ-75 Compact has a standard safety, and can be carried either DA or SA.
My P01 is outstanding, the sidearm I bet my life on every day. Works well with whatever I feed it, and is a pleasure to shoot.
Note, the CZ PO1 and CZ PCR compacts cannot be carried cocked and locked - they are decocker equipped. The steel frame CZ-75 Compact has a standard safety, and can be carried either DA or SA.
My P01 is outstanding, the sidearm I bet my life on every day. Works well with whatever I feed it, and is a pleasure to shoot.
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You won't regret it. The feel of the 75-style grip in your hand and the superior pointability (for many hand shapes, anyway) is all it should take to convince you. And it only gets better from there. Has a good heft to it, and unlike a Glock, you'll be hard-pressed to notice it get lighter with each round you fire. I have a high regard for Glocks, but the ergonomics just aren't there for me.
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Mine has been 100% reliable and love the ergonomics.
Reliability?
My G19 has been more reliable out of the box than my CZ P-01. However, the P-01 has only had FTF on some really crappy "NATO" 124gr ADCOM FMJ. Most times, the failure consists of the cartridge stuck halfway in the chamber. Forward assist gets it in the rest of the way. With better ammo and/or more attention to maintenance, there are no issues. This is compared directly to the G19, which has eaten 1500+ rounds of this ADCOM stuff like candy.
Recoil?
My impression is that there is more upward muzzle flip with the CZ compared to the G19. Just enough to be different, not enough to make much of a difference shot to shot.
Size compared to Glock 19?
Darned near the same. I had the G19 first, and the CZ fits in the same holsters, albeit a bit tightly.
I'd have a hard time letting either of them go. I really like the CZ, but the G19 gets more use.
jm
My G19 has been more reliable out of the box than my CZ P-01. However, the P-01 has only had FTF on some really crappy "NATO" 124gr ADCOM FMJ. Most times, the failure consists of the cartridge stuck halfway in the chamber. Forward assist gets it in the rest of the way. With better ammo and/or more attention to maintenance, there are no issues. This is compared directly to the G19, which has eaten 1500+ rounds of this ADCOM stuff like candy.
Recoil?
My impression is that there is more upward muzzle flip with the CZ compared to the G19. Just enough to be different, not enough to make much of a difference shot to shot.
Size compared to Glock 19?
Darned near the same. I had the G19 first, and the CZ fits in the same holsters, albeit a bit tightly.
I'd have a hard time letting either of them go. I really like the CZ, but the G19 gets more use.
jm
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From An Article In J.A.M.A
I heard that owning a CZ cures male pattern baldness, as well as erectile dysfunction.
I heard that owning a CZ cures male pattern baldness, as well as erectile dysfunction.
yhtomit
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JDgray -- thanks for that pic, amazing just how close in size they are. (I would have guessed the Glock quite a bit smaller.) I also would not have guessed how much shorter the trigger reach is on the Glock!
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Mine is a PCR Compact (essentially the same gun but without a light rail), sufficiently comparable that we can draw conclusions from it.
No real difference - better or worse - from any other lightweight 9mm I've shot.
Very close in size. The Glock is a little shorter - perhaps half an inch - from the bottom of magazine floorplate to the top of the slide. The CZ's slide is slimmer and more rounded, as is the grip. The reach to the DA trigger (no cocked-and-locked option on this decocker model) is longer. This is mitigated somewhat by the fact that the trigger stroke begins with the hammer already about one-third cocked. The slide fits very low in the frame, has smaller/finer grasping serrations and is a little more difficult to grasp for quick racking.
Except for one failure to feed a JHP in its first 100 rounds, and a later problem with failures to eject only with Blazer aluminum (I am going to call ammo incompatibility on those), very good. The last 500 rounds - 100 of which were JHPs - have been perfect.
No real difference - better or worse - from any other lightweight 9mm I've shot.
Very close in size. The Glock is a little shorter - perhaps half an inch - from the bottom of magazine floorplate to the top of the slide. The CZ's slide is slimmer and more rounded, as is the grip. The reach to the DA trigger (no cocked-and-locked option on this decocker model) is longer. This is mitigated somewhat by the fact that the trigger stroke begins with the hammer already about one-third cocked. The slide fits very low in the frame, has smaller/finer grasping serrations and is a little more difficult to grasp for quick racking.
P. Plainsman
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My P01's at around 2,300 rounds now. A lot of that was hot +P.
It's never failed to feed and fire any brass-cased ammo.
I ran one 50 round box of Blazer aluminum case 115 gr ball through it a few months ago and did got a few feeding problems. My CZ 75B (3,500 rounds) is the same way: dead reliable with all brass ammo tried, but jams with aluminum Blazer.
I regard CZs as not cleared for use with aluminum case ammo. Otherwise they're excellent.
It's never failed to feed and fire any brass-cased ammo.
I ran one 50 round box of Blazer aluminum case 115 gr ball through it a few months ago and did got a few feeding problems. My CZ 75B (3,500 rounds) is the same way: dead reliable with all brass ammo tried, but jams with aluminum Blazer.
I regard CZs as not cleared for use with aluminum case ammo. Otherwise they're excellent.
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I have a CZ PCR also. It will not feed Remington UMC rounds. I believe that the crimp was not properly set at the factory. Something else to look at is the curvy trigger. After extended firing it can irritate your trigger finger. A straighter trigger can be fitted for $85.00 from CZ.
armoredman
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I have owned my CZ PO1 for a few years now, and have used a Glock 19 professionally for over 6 years now. I can state that I have had Glocks fail on me personally 300% more than my PO1 - three times at qualification versus none with factory ammo- managed to get my PO1 to jam with badly done first time reloads. Glocks just don't fit me - and I remember being all excited when they first came into the country, had to have one. Nope.
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