Ethically what should I do?

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My neighbor lady is in her late eighties. I have always taken time to talk with her, helped her a few times with little things over the past ten years or so. She is aware of my fire arm passion. Sunday she came over with a paper bag full of guns. She said "well you give me $50 apiece for these" set them down, we made a little small talk and she went home.

I open the sack and find a Hi-Standard B model, some one has cut the barrel off to 4", no front sight. Other than that it's pretty clean.

Next in a small leather holster is a small pocket auto covered in green growth. It cleans up to be a Walther model 9 in good condition, right grip is broken, needs the typical firing pin spring.

Third one out is a LLama ESpecial mini 1911. This is the first one of these I have seen, cleaned up to be a 98% pistol. It's a 7.65/32acp.

Fourth one is in a holster, again covered in green grime. It's a Ruger Bearcat, cleaned up to about 98%. I really do not have a need for a SA rimfire revolver, but it's a cool little gun.

In the bottom of the sack, in a old bank cash sack I find a nearly new S&W model 36 no dash. Just a touch of bluing gone near the muzzle.

I'm thinking she could get close to a grand selling them to a dealer locally. I go over to her house and tell her that these are worth a bit more than fifty dollars each. I offer to sell them for her. She continues to insist that she wants me to have them. They belonged to her late husband and she wants them to go to someone who well enjoy them. After more discussion I give her five hundred dollars for the lot.

My problem is I'm feeling like I screwed her out of a lot of money, wait it gets worse. Monday morning, bright and early she drags over three long guns. Two are in very old canvas cases and one is an old BB gun. She insists that they are part of the deal. Later in the day I get around to looking at these rifles. First is a old S&W co2 bb gun. I have no knowledge about it. Second is a Winchester model 77 tube feed .22lr semi auto. Just what I need another .22 rifle. It cleans up nice, kind of a cool rifle, different than my 10/22's. Here's the ringer, I pull a Savage model 99 in .250-3000 out of it's canvas case. It's very nice, a few dings from hunting. First time I have handled one of these. I find they are some what valuable.

I go to my neighbor and attempt to give her more money for the rifles but she well not hear of it. I'm thrilled about the new additions but feeling guilty at the same time. Should I just thank my lucky stars or should I sell these and give her the proceeds. She does not need it, she's well off.

Tell me what you think.
 
Let her do what she wants to do with her own stuff and stop arguing with her.

But remember it when the leaves start to pile up in her yard, or the driveway needs shoveling, or she needs someone to watch the cat for a weekend...
 
If she understands what she is doing, and has all her mental faculties, it would be rude to rebuff her offer.

If you want to sleep better, dont run to the pawn shop to collect your winnings! ;)
 
IMO, if she's in control of her faculties, what's she's trying to do is to pass along something that meant a lot to her husband that she's retained all these years, and has now found someone that she feels will enjoy them as he did. Also sounds like there's not many others in her life, so she is trying to further say "thank you" for the things you've done for her over the years. It may not seem like much to you, but to a widow having someone you can count on is priceless. My wife was a widow for almost 10 years, and she had more folks try to screw her over than you can imagine. A couple succeeded, but not for long and not for much - she's a pretty sharp cookie. She had a few folks that she could *really* count on, and she's always felt a special debt to them for the things they did, even though it wasn't anything major - she just knew that she could count on 'em.
They're yours to do with as you will - but if you plan to keep them and pass them down, sit down and write out a history of 'em and how you got 'em....and then let her know your plans. Trust me when I say that she'll be tickled to death!!!!
 
Plus 1 to what Six said. Be a good neighbor to her, the kind of neighbor she most likely was in the "good old days". I think she would appreciate that much more than money.
 
She may just be trying to show some appreciation to you for your assistance over the years. Based on what you say, I'd just give her what she asked and tell her you will take care of them in their new home. Then I would mow her yard or pay a little more attention to her in the future.
 
It sounds like, to her, it's not about the money. She wants something her late husband enjoyed to be passed on to someone else who will also enjoy it, and the $50 price tag was probably more of a formality than a fundraising effort.

I say enjoy your new toys and be a good neighbor!
 
I say keep them since that his her wish. I would treat them as though they were my father's guns that had been given to me. Maybe sell a few that can't be cleaned up or made servicable and keep the rest in honor of the friendly couple.
 
Man you have done the right thing from the start. If I were you, I'd offer here some more cash for that Model 99...tell her it is a very nice gun and she should have a little more money for it...one more try...maybe.

If she does not want it, drop it. I would expect a lot of proud older folks might even get offended if you press to hard...and you don't want that.

Obviously that Savage 99 is the real find there. If I had one of those, I'd sell a kidney before I sold it. She may well get more pleasure from you cherishing the thing that she would from the cash.

Some people are just nice and want others to be happy. The $500 you gave here is more than she asked. Ethically I think you are OK. Just keep being her friend and I think you'll both be happy.

In fact, you ought to clean up the really nice ones, like the Savage 99, hang 'em on a real nice rack over the mantle or whatever, set some old west memorabilia around it (or whatever suits you tastes and/or geography) and show her. That might make her happier than anything..."Just like Edgar would have wanted it" kind of a thing.
 
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She doesn't want the money, she wants you to appreciate them.

My guess is she'd be extremely offended if you walked over there with money and said you sold them. Don't do that.
 
madcratebuilder...

You've got one grateful lady there. She probably feels like she owes you for all your past kindness, and for the $500 that you honestly stepped forward to give her. Accept that.

You feel like you owe her because what obviously has turned out to be a treasure trove of items that she has given you. Okay then, the transaction is finished, but the deal is not yet done.

They belonged to her late husband and she wants them to go to someone who well enjoy them.

Rather than just pawn them for cash, you could find good homes for the guns you don't plan to keep. Find people that will cherish them as she would like; maybe a young shooter. If you don't plan to keep one or more of those guns, find a deserving person and pay it forward.
 
Every now and again, bring her a meal... Shovel her driveway, mow... just something like that.

She came to you because she trusted you, and WANTED to sell the guns to you.
 
You have told her what they are worth and she wants you to have them - nothing dishonest here and nothing to feel guilty about. Now, keep being a good neighbor.
 
Sounds like she doesn't need the money- so stop feeling guilty about it. Pay her back in things she does need by continuing to be the good neighbor that inspired her to give you the guns in the first place.
 
You were honest with her, and she wanted to give you something.

Giving to someone gives good feelings to the giver, so you should accept her gift and then you both benefit. You get some guns at a bargain price and she gets the good feelings that come from doing something nice for someone else.
 
Personally, I would have more satisfaction knowing that someone had the guns that would appreciate and enjoy shooting them. If I was in her situation, that would be worth more than the dollars associated with them. So, I think the best thing you could do to honor her wishes is to shoot and enjoy them. I wouldn't sell them until after she is gone, because that does not appear to be the reason that she gave them to you.
 
I did some carpentry work for a widow years ago and she took a liking to me partly because I had the same first name as her son who had died in WWII, and because I had just gotten back from Vietnam and was the same age as he'd been when he died.

Her late husband had a beautiful tool collection and every time I did work for her I'd find she had hidden one of his old tools in the back of my truck.

I always put them back the next day.

Finally she came up to me and said words to the effect of "I may be an old lady, but I know exactly what I'm doing. I have another no-good son who will send these tools to the dump when I die. You appreciate them and use them as my husband did. Goddamn it, I want you to take the Goddamn tools!"

After we both stopped laughing, I did take them. I still have them, I still use them and think about her. And I always kept an eye on her until she died.

Honor her wishes and keep and enjoy the guns.

Tinpig
 
Unless you happen to know she is in need of the money (some older folks are, but MANY are not, despite appearances to the contrary), I would respect her wishes and gratefully accept the gift.

Pay her back by continuing to be a good neighbor, which you obviously have been up to now.
 
consider yourself lucky having a neighbour that likes you. When she goes to town, do yard work for her. make her life as simple for her as a good neighbour can. Find out what and how she cooks, ask her to teach some old tricks. :D
 
Remember it is a round world, you will get the opportunity in the future to repay her kindness in some way.

It might not be this week, month, or year, or even when while she is alive, but wait for it, it will happen and just don't pass it up when it presents itself.


(Similar thing happened to me, and after a dozen or so years, I was able to repay a gift like that.)
 
If she's in her 80's, and you mentioned she's well off, more money probably doesn't mean much to her and probably wouldn't be of much use to her. As others are saying, it's apparently not about the money and she just wants someone to enjoy them. Just keep being a good neighbor.
 
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