Favorite BP revolver / Knife combo for woods loafing?

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Dog Soldier said:
The ROA can deliver a real pay load of pistol power. The ROA SS revolvers have a replaceable front sight blade. This allows the use of a higher front sight blade. The LEE .457 220 grns conacal has a tapered base. It loads easy and runs over 1,000 fps. when charged with 40/T-7.
Any heavy quality blade belt knife well serve a hunter in the Mountain West.I prefer the early S&W Bowie knife. The flap sheath was made by a saddle shop. It protects the handle and hilt from being nicked by rocks and sand.

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What kind of game does one find in your area? On this coast it's mostly white tail, squirrel, rabbits, coon, muskrat, turkey. Here in Delaware they eat muskrat, call it 'marsh rabbit". I would imagine you'd have some predators and mulies, any elk? Bear? I only ran across one bear ( mostly hunted out near where I'm from in the Blue ridge ) but may be in an area soon where 2-300lb black bear and mountain lions are found. Of course rattlesnakes are always the lunch that bites back in them hills...
 
kbbailey said:
View attachment 226318 I carry, shoot, and even compete a little with my Remington '58. I certainly do my share of woods bumming with it too.
As far as the blade goes...I like carrying a nice 'hawk. Trim shooting lanes. Mark trees destined for firewood. Trim brush for trailcams. Etc. Etc. Consider a tomahawk. I customized this one's handle and added. A hammer face. Some file work and browning solution finished it out.
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I had a nice Cold Steel trail hawk, has a hammer like poll. Gave it to my brother in law and thinking about getting another one ever since. It would take a keen edge and was once used to dress a squirrel. ( Long story, the guy who had the knife tried to Steven Segal throw it for some reason. It blended in well and we only had my hawk in our party of two :D )
Most of the time now I carry that kukri pictured up top. Twenty bucks from Amazon with absolutely no edge on it. Another twenty to have the local wizard grind a fine edge on it. That blade will shave the hair off your arm with any part of it and you can chop with it. As long as you only hit wood the dents come right out and she shaves again.
Heck to the yeah! I like that hawk. Since woods loafing is mostly a solitary pursuit for this enthusiast a nice hawk does increase that feeling of security and well being a good weapon gives one in the wild...
 
Pearl Dog, thanks so much for your question. I live in Wyoming a state in the Northern Rocky Mtns. It is a large state with the smallest population in the Union. We have only 500,000 people scattered across 98,000 square miles. We have Brown Bears, Black Bears, Elk, Moose, Antelope. White Tail and Mule deer, Big Horn sheep, wolves, Mtn Lions, coyotes, Badgers, Wolverines, small game birds etc.
Folks come from all over the World to hunt and fish in Wyoming. Outdoor activities are 1/3 of our economy. The list of game is long.:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming
 
kbbaily thanks. I visited S.E. Illinois last month. We went to a small farming town called Allendale. I went to visit the grave of a Grt GF who died there on his way West in 1833. The farm folks in Southern Illinois are the best. They were so helpful and courteous. :)
 
Dog Soldier said:
Pearl Dog, thanks so much for your question. I live in Wyoming a state in the Northern Rocky Mtns. It is a large state with the smallest population in the Union. We have only 500,000 people scattered across 98,000 square miles. We have Brown Bears, Black Bears, Elk, Moose, Antelope. White Tail and Mule deer, Big Horn sheep, wolves, Mtn Lions, coyotes, Badgers, Wolverines, small game birds etc.
Folks come from all over the World to hunt and fish in Wyoming. Outdoor activities are 1/3 of our economy. The list of game is long.:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming
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I told a friend on Facebook that the little pocket Remington was my Colorado Grizzly gun! Yep, shoot the bear in the eye. When a one eyed grizzly is found, your loved ones can search that area and try to find your personal effects in piles of bear scat ;)
 
I usually carry my .50 cal old army 50 gr 777 250 conical and my older (82) Gerber Mk II. I acquired during my military career, Wife usually has her SW 29 44 mag here in central Pa. woods exploring
 
I use a case fixed hunting as I love case knives using them for over 20 years! but I enjoy my pietta 44c bp revolver in 1851 navy it works very well!
 
I've twice carried my Uberti Rem 1858 w/ 30gr of Pyrodex and Hornady .454" balls, backed up by my Silver Stag "Big Bowie" when I hunted deer during black powder season. Circle K leather to hold them. I like the idea of a Tomahawk too, though I don't have one.

Cheers,

Harry
 
If I remember correctly. ..my 'hawk is a "cold steel" from Amazon.com. I have made a few modifications to it...but it seems to be made of decent steel, and it will hold an edge.
 
perldog007 said:
What kind of game does one find in your area? On this coast it's mostly white tail, squirrel, rabbits, coon, muskrat, turkey. Here in Delaware they eat muskrat, call it 'marsh rabbit". I would imagine you'd have some predators and mulies, any elk? Bear? I only ran across one bear ( mostly hunted out near where I'm from in the Blue ridge ) but may be in an area soon where 2-300lb black bear and mountain lions are found. Of course rattlesnakes are always the lunch that bites back in them hills...
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Not sure how long youve been gone, but I live near Big A Mountain in Russell County Va and black bear have been a real problem the past few years...Even worse up around Richlands and Tazewell... The mountain I used to live on near Richlands they have pretty much run all the deer off at this point. Getting in peoples trash and tearing things up looking for food as well...

People still dance with the rattle snakes... ;)

Forgot to add... Pietta 5.5" Remington, or my snub nosed 1860 Thunderer.... Backed up by any number of blades based on what I am doing. Usually a Blackjack or my old Japanese folder, and always either Case Sob Buster or an Openel in my pocket..
 
I live in Buchanan Co. so I know all about the bear around here, coyotes are getting bad as well but my fav. combo is my 51 sheriffs model & my old axe I made myself a few years ago world good in this thick brush around here
 
Stormson said:
Not sure how long youve been gone, but I live near Big A Mountain in Russell County Va and black bear have been a real problem the past few years...Even worse up around Richlands and Tazewell... The mountain I used to live on near Richlands they have pretty much run all the deer off at this point. Getting in peoples trash and tearing things up looking for food as well...

People still dance with the rattle snakes... ;)

Forgot to add... Pietta 5.5" Remington, or my snub nosed 1860 Thunderer.... Backed up by any number of blades based on what I am doing. Usually a Blackjack or my old Japanese folder, and always either Case Sob Buster or an Openel in my pocket..
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I lived near Ferrum around '93(ish) and moved back to occupied territory in '95. Worked at the McDonald's in Rocky Mount and tried to open a place for a crazy but talented chef in Ferrum. Black bear was closed there but open in some others. Trash bears have been a problem as long as I can remember. My Uncle Les from Clifton Forge / Covington area charged one bare handed on the skyline drive in '71. Normally a quiet reserved man....

Are there any feral pigs any where near Abingdon that you've heard of? Anywho! More on topic, I decided on this during our faux spring. Truly an occasion where I didn't need a gun as our host was well equipped for the locale. This is a great rig for hunting sassafrass tea and bream. When you absolutely positively are not doing any kind of work or hunting, not trekking or checking fences or rounding up a stray critter... this is loafing gear :D pocket .31 Pietta, akin to a short barreled .22 lr in thump or lack thereof. The spork makes a better pry bar than any folding knife...
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Sorry for not answering sooner, but I been getting over pneumonia and some other health crap... Of all the bastards that ever tried to take me out, I think Im the one thats come closest to succeeding so far LOL!

Eroc - Not sure how I missed this before... But what part of Buchanan you live in? I used to live right across the line on Doran Hill... Kicked around Raven a lot in those days as well...

PerlDog - Yuppers... The hogs are coming up from NE Tenn, and into this part of the Appalachians. Not just feral pig though, as these have mixed with Russian Boar and can weigh up to 1000LBS, though most are a few hundred. The real problem is in the unGodly NUMBERS of these beasts as well as the size. Some of the Tenn. heards are HUGE... 50-60 strong isnt unusual. Couple that with the size and the aggressiveness, and youre talking real problems.

It isnt at all unheard of for a successful farmer down there to literally loose EVERYTHING overnight. Damn things are a blight on the planet... Unfortunately, one of our own making.

So that little '63... How you like it? Do you really think its equal to a .22? I have always liked the little guys, but have read many times that they where seriously underpowered... What load are using and how is it working out for you? Have you thought about a conversion?

Its probably pretty low on the list at this point, but if I where to run across a really nice deal on one its something I always thought Id like to get one day...

Has anyone here tried the new .22 conversions for the '51/'60??
 
I like the .31 more than I thought I would. Once I had that baby in hand my old Colt was curtains. I had a 1938 New Pocket that I really liked. Still do like it, just don't feel the need to own one anymore.
Not Sure about the whole "companion gun" thing regarding the 1858. A spare cylinder would seem to make more sense. But if you like stuff to go boom it's worth every penny. An 1851 is more inline with say replacing a Colt Woodsman or Ruger Mark II or the like in my opinion.
The .31 remmy clone is more like a little RG .22 snubby or the like, only much nicer. It will get close to .22 lr 3" bbl ballistics but the larger soft ball has different terminal ballistics over 800 fps.
The Colt Navy clone I have is ridiculous accurate and If I was purely looking for a .22 lr substitute I'd be going that way. For a small revolver though, they are pretty nifty in my book.
 
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Oh on loads? I'm pushing them out around 700fps with a snoutfull of 2f Pyrodex and pinched down #11 remington caps as the #10 cci caps I had on hand were a bit too tight. Two strikes, one to seat and one to fire... :/
In a perfect world with 4f and proper fitting caps I'm guessing that the 900 max loads I've seen posted are going to be close. It is way underpowered with 2f compared to a 4" .22 lr of any quality at all. Or it feels that way to me, would be more accurate.
 
The ROA and the Euro-Arms Roger & Spencer both shoot the .457 round balls. These allow longer bearing surface and higher pressures. The Roger & Spencer was used by Ruger to develop the ROA.
I do use the custom Ballistixs Cylinder with the improved nipple angle and larger chambers. The ROA loaded with a 255 grs RNFP over 50/T7 can take out anything. roa.png rogers.png rogers.png IMG_0313.JPG IMG_0313.JPG
 
The ROA is the king of the BP belt guns. I almost went with one as a primary, but decided to go with currently mass produced. I'm sure we will come across one someday at a show or swap.... they are gorgeous. That Euro arms piece is lovely too...
Still kicking myself for not buying a used SS one from a store in Alexandria in the nineties...
 
The Roger & Spencer was the last of the Civil war era revolvers. As far as the research goes they were held from the Union Military and were never issued during the war. They were sold for $1.50 each, They went West and were popular on the Frontier. They are way ahead of the Colt and Remington of that time. This target version was made only in modern times. DPS makes the R&S for the BP Olympic Teams. They sell for $1,300 bucks.
The S&W Coffin Bowies were made in the 1970s. The one with the inlaid handle is a Texas Ranger limited edition..
 
DD4lifeusmc said:
Perl dog nice knife actually it is of Indian and nepalese design commonly called a gurka knife
My dad brought several home afte WW II they've been around since about the 1500's
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Yeah the one pictured is the third Indian hand forged hand signed one I've owned from the Bud K catalog. The other two weren't very good. The one I have now is beast. Go figure... I used to be hooked on my Cold Steel Trailmaster.
 
Dog Soldier said:
The Roger & Spencer was the last of the Civil war era revolvers. As far as the research goes they were held from the Union Military and were never issued during the war. They were sold for $1.50 each, They went West and were popular on the Frontier. They are way ahead of the Colt and Remington of that time. This target version was made only in modern times. DPS makes the R&S for the BP Olympic Teams. They sell for $1,300 bucks.
The S&W Coffin Bowies were made in the 1970s. The one with the inlaid handle is a Texas Ranger limited edition..
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If my wife sees this speak kindly of me when I disappear. Have Forensics look at the iron ware :D That looks like it's worth 1300 bucks. It just has a graceful look about it.
 
Thanks Peridog. I bought that R&S for $150 bucks. A fellow in Salt Lake City, Ut. has a company that cleans homes that are in foreclosure. He can dump or keep items left in these homes. The R&S unfired was used as a wall decoration in a Million dollar home. I paid what he ask for it.:thumbup:
 
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