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UPS Refused to Ship My Gun Barrel

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Kramer Krazy, Jan 23, 2013.

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  1. Pismopal

    Pismopal Member

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    This seems to me to be a case of "too much info"....when I ship things I just ship it..I don't think it is necessary to discuss the item with a clerk. I hand them a box..insure if appropriate and pay them...easy.
     
  2. PGT

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    I guess you've forgotten the genesis of the phrase "Going postal", eh? :p
     
  3. gossamer

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    It amazes me sometimes how people do not read what they agree to:

    UPS:
    Fedex:
    She -- being a representative of "They/UPS" do, in fact, have and declare their right to know the contents of what they ship whether those contents be legal, illegal, or otherwise.

    What's more, when you use their service, you accept their terms of service and grant them authority to check the contents of your package at their discretion without notifying you.

    Period. Full stop.
     
  4. Liberty Suppressors

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    We get barrels from UPS pretty much daily, I hope there's not some new reg to where they will stop shipping.
     
  5. CZguy

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    I think this is how rumors get started.

    How many kinds of stop are there?
     
  6. btg3

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    Hey Kramer,
    Taylors USPS office refused to ship my shotgun, but Duncan USPS did so gladly. Perhaps UPS has the same issue with not all staff have a competent understanding of rules/regs.

    Considering printing their policy from their website, or show it to them on your iPad; or try another location.
     
  7. mgkdrgn

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    If, at a UPS hub, next words out of my mouth would have been "supervisor please".

    I would have then told them why I was leaving, and going down the street to FedEx ground.
     
  8. Texshooter

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    Don't use UPS for anything.

    Besides any gun issues, they discriminate against the Boy Scouts of America.

    No decent American should use them for anything.
     
  9. Elkins45

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    You got lucky. While you didn't violate any laws you did violate their company policies which require that you pay for overnight shipping and that you declare it as a firearm.

    You're lucky the package handlers didn't recognize the Ruger address and just walk out the door with it. The high rate of handgun theft is the stated reason they started requiring shipping them overnight.

    I always use "machine parts" too, unless its a stock. Then it's a "wood carving".
     
  10. JShirley

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    It is a legal requirement to declare firearms. OTOH, if what you're shipping isn't legally a firearm...
     
  11. zxcvbob

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    Actually, it's not a legal requirement (not even for handguns) if you are shipping to a licensee or within your own state of residence. You may WANT to declare it for insurance purposes, but that's a different matter entirely.
     
  12. Kramer Krazy

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    I'm not going to quote everyone, but I'll answer some questions that were asked...

    * I went to UPS because it is close to work and has a much, much shorter line for when I'm on my lunch break

    * I stated "barrel assembly" because I insured it for $750 (was sending it back for warranty work)

    * I had the box completely sealed and she never saw it

    * I comfirmed that it was a barrel when she asked because I didn't think it was an issue, and I preferred she didn't open the box, possibly recognize that it was the whole upper receiver for one of those evil AR-15s, and then freak out

    BTW, I got a reply from UPS and it is just a bunch of of their policy with absolutely nothing stated about barrels. This is what I received:

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    This morning I wrote back stating that this was NOT a firearm and bascially a chunk of metal no different than shipping a car exhaust pipe for as much as the BATF was concerned. I also pointed out that their policy stated...

    "An Individual may ship firearms to a Gun Manufacturer only, for the purpose of repair or adjustment only"

    I stated that even if the barrel was a firearm (which it is not), they should have shipped it because it was going back to the manufacturer for warranty work, I had all the paperwork proving it, and I even had the Return Authorization number written in four places on the box that corresponded with the paperwork I had.

    It's been 15 hours and I have not received a reply.
     
  13. r1derbike

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    I've got a local UPS drop that has asked me what was inside some boxes I shipped and received. They were pre-charged pneumatic air rifles. I correctly stated they were pneumatic pumps. No sense alarming anyone, when there is nothing to be alarmed about.
     
  14. labhound

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    Just this week sent an SR45 back to Ruger for warranty work using the UPS overnight air prepaid label they e-mailed me. Their e-mail said not to take it to a UPS Store for shipment but to take it to a UPS Customer Center for shipment. Followed their directions, gun was accepted with no problem, no-one asked what was in the box and the gun was delivered at Ruger in Prescott AZ the next day. Sent my FNS-9 to FNH-USA back in June using the UPS second day air label they e-mailed me, dropping it off at the local UPS Store, no questions, no problem. Sent my XD45 back to Springfield Armory in September using the Fed-Ex label Springfield Armory had Fed-Ex e-mail me. Their e-mail noted some "Pack and Ship" stores won't accept firearms. I dropped the package off at the local Copico store (UPS and Fed-Ex drop off site), no questions, no problem. Side note, three of the last four new guns I have purchased have required warranty work, my Glock 19 gen 3 being the exception! :eek:
     
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  15. Kramer Krazy

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    Took them a while to admit the hub was wrong, so here is the most recent reply from UPS...

     
  16. Sniper66

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    I had a similar problem with shipping a bolt to Anschutz. They told me I had to go to a special outlet and fill out a special form to send it. I said "bite me" and went to the USPS and had no problems. Unfortunately we will be getting more of this crap.
     
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