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fffg versus ffg in a Walker

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Foto Joe, Apr 2, 2010.

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  1. Foto Joe

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    It is my understanding that years ago ffg was recommended for Walkers (& Dragoons?). What changed our minds and got us using triple f?

    Joe
     
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    From an old Colt Industries pamphlet:
    "FFG black powder is best for large and medium-size revolvers, and FFFG for the small pocket models, but any grade that is available will work reasonably well."
     
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    Some folks prefer using 3f for just about every muzzle loading application.
    Some of the reasons for doing so are due to it being;
    -cleaner burning with less fouling residue produced
    -more potent for an equal amount of powder volume which means that in revolver chambers that have a limited capacity more velocity can be attained
    -somewhat more consistent performance because the more uniform granulation can promote more uniform powder compression when ramming
    -it generally pours and measures better
    -it can enhance ignition

    That doesn't mean that it's always better to use 3f, but if a person were to buy only one granulation of powder then 3f seems to have more universal applications and is closer to being ideal than most 2f powder granulations.
     
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    fffg for horse pistol

    777 fff is the best combonation for 45 cal and smaller,both pistols and rifles,ff for above 45 cal,22 cal black powder pocket pistols require ffff:cool:
     
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    Sometimes the more coarse FFg grains causes bridging in the pistol flasks and you will get light charges. The finer FFFg flows more consistantly.
     
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    Hellgate - I've noticed with that my flask and a 35 grain spout, I still only get about 29 grains of Goex FFFg. It is consistent, but some of the granules seem to stick in the spout each time. Same thing with the 24 grain spout that came on the flask - it only throws 21 grains. I've never tried FFg in it - no reason to (and I've only had it a week, and I don't have any FFg with me), so I can't comment. I use a measure to charge the chambers so it's not a big deal really, but still.

    FWIW, I don't know what the point of my post really was, but it seemed relevant. Maybe it will help someone...
     
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    The reason that I started this thread was do to the fact that the volume measure of BP is based on the weight of 2f BP (as I understand it).

    I recently received my first Walker and from what I've been reading the typical charge is between 44 and 60 grains (volume)of 3f.

    My flask spouts when measured against an adjustable volume measure are off as much as 25%, i.e. the 40gr spout throws 51 to 53 3f when measured in the adjustable.

    I know that this horse has been flogged before and is probably mortally wounded but...I was just wonderin' if it was worth picking up a can of 2f if I can even find one and using it as a calibration tool on my adjustable. Or am I just asking for inconsistant results in a Walker or Dragoon using 2f?
     
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