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Sixteen Shells from a 30'06
Tom Waits
I plugged 16 shells from a thirty-ought-six
and a Black Crow snuck througha hole in the sky
so I spent all my buttons on an old pack mule
and I made me a ladder from a pawn shop marimba
and I leaned it up against a dandelion tree
And I filled me a sachel full of old pig corn
and I beat me a billy from an old French horn
and I kicked that mule to the top of the tree
and I blew me a hole 'bout the size of a kickdrum
and I cut me a switch from a long branch elbow
I'm gonna whittle you into kindlin'
Black Crow 16 shells from a thirty-ought-six
whittle you into kindlin'
Black Crow 16 shells from a thirty-ought-six
Well I slept in the holler of a dry creek bed
and I tore out the buckets from a red Corvette, tore out the buckets from a red Corvette Lionel and Dave and the Butcher made three
you got to meet me by the knuckles of the skinnybone tree
with the strings of a Washburn stretched like a clothes line
you know me and that mule scrambled right through the hole
Now I hold him prisoner in a Washburn jail
that stapped on the back of my old kick mule
strapped it on the back of my old kick mule
I bang on the strings just to drive him crazy
I strum it loud just to rattle his cage
strum it loud just to rattle his cage
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You think that's strange, watch him SING it! He struts around the stage, half drunk half mad, barking and gibbering the lyrics with that trademark voice of his. Wild stuff!
I realize there are dissertations on this lyric, but I really think he's singing "CAPS A'LIGHT" or some other reference to firing the gun.
Tom Waits
I plugged 16 shells from a thirty-ought-six
and a Black Crow snuck througha hole in the sky
so I spent all my buttons on an old pack mule
and I made me a ladder from a pawn shop marimba
and I leaned it up against a dandelion tree
And I filled me a sachel full of old pig corn
and I beat me a billy from an old French horn
and I kicked that mule to the top of the tree
and I blew me a hole 'bout the size of a kickdrum
and I cut me a switch from a long branch elbow
I'm gonna whittle you into kindlin'
Black Crow 16 shells from a thirty-ought-six
whittle you into kindlin'
Black Crow 16 shells from a thirty-ought-six
Well I slept in the holler of a dry creek bed
and I tore out the buckets from a red Corvette, tore out the buckets from a red Corvette Lionel and Dave and the Butcher made three
you got to meet me by the knuckles of the skinnybone tree
with the strings of a Washburn stretched like a clothes line
you know me and that mule scrambled right through the hole
Now I hold him prisoner in a Washburn jail
that stapped on the back of my old kick mule
strapped it on the back of my old kick mule
I bang on the strings just to drive him crazy
I strum it loud just to rattle his cage
strum it loud just to rattle his cage
---
You think that's strange, watch him SING it! He struts around the stage, half drunk half mad, barking and gibbering the lyrics with that trademark voice of his. Wild stuff!
I realize there are dissertations on this lyric, but I really think he's singing "CAPS A'LIGHT" or some other reference to firing the gun.
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possom813
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Have a coughing fit there at the end
A couple early 90's songs, one by the band "Sublime", the song's called "Garden Grove", and has the line "I've got the deuce-deuce in the trunk of my car". Along with another of their songs, "Santeria", with the line "daddy's got a new .45".
Related is the song by "Eazy-E", a rapper, called "Boys in the Hood" or some spelling of that sort, with the lines:
"silly m----- f----- pulls out a deuce deuce,
little did he know i had a loaded 12 gauge,
one sucker dead, LA times front page."
Yep, more or less guns are portrayed as violence in music. Is it any wonder that the MTV generation is so opposed to them?
Related is the song by "Eazy-E", a rapper, called "Boys in the Hood" or some spelling of that sort, with the lines:
"silly m----- f----- pulls out a deuce deuce,
little did he know i had a loaded 12 gauge,
one sucker dead, LA times front page."
Yep, more or less guns are portrayed as violence in music. Is it any wonder that the MTV generation is so opposed to them?
GodGuns&Guitars
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Have a coughing fit there at the end
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Yep, must have been it.
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Yep, must have been it.
mljdeckard
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Yeah, I'm with Zoog too. Neil Young and The Boss are .....not on our side.
Billy Gibbons actually is.
Billy Gibbons actually is.
archigos
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EDIT: Wrong thread. Sorry.
travellingJeff
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Happiness is a warm gun, momma.
FWIW All the (c)rap should be deleted Rap music meshes with the High Road about as well as a palsy victim doing brain surgery with a crowbar.
FWIW All the (c)rap should be deleted Rap music meshes with the High Road about as well as a palsy victim doing brain surgery with a crowbar.
c919
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Yeah for anyone who truly respects their right to own and carry firearms should have the sense not to support those people (rappers) who support, advertise, and condone gun crimes and violence.
These are the people who are robbing us of our image as respectable, non-violent, law abiding gun owners.
These are the people who are robbing us of our image as respectable, non-violent, law abiding gun owners.
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Evil Monkey
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Rap is the music version of wrestling. It's all for show, an act.
You guys need to get over yourselves.
mljdeckard
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I don't allow wrestling in my house either. It and rap music glorify violence. My kids must learn that violence isn't trivial or humorous.
c919
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Yeah and how many rappers have been arrested for doing exactly what they rap about?
C-Murder
50Cent
Lil Wayne
Ja Rule
DMX
Coolio
T.I.
Juvenile
I guess they were all arrested for wrestling in public? And I guess the cops, lawyers, and judges didn't know it was all an act.
Need I list more?
C-Murder
50Cent
Lil Wayne
Ja Rule
DMX
Coolio
T.I.
Juvenile
I guess they were all arrested for wrestling in public? And I guess the cops, lawyers, and judges didn't know it was all an act.
Need I list more?
Evil Monkey
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Rap is how they get out of the world of crime. Some still do the stuff they rap about, they get in trouble, that sucks for them.
It is an act. It's entertainment and most often when rappers talk about the rap music industry in or out of their songs, they refer to it as "the game" because that's exactly what it is, a game, an act, a show, etc.
Yeah because listening to rap or watching wrestling will turn your kids into monsters right?
Sort of how making it harder to purchase guns will prevent criminals from getting their hands on them? Give me a freakin' break.
c919
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So, my question still stands. If it is all just an act, then why are rappers constantly going to jail for violent crimes, drug crimes, gun crimes, and disorderly conduct?
I'm not saying it isn't their way of getting out of a violent culture, but by the same token, look at how many child soldiers come out of war torn, 3rd world african nations (way worse than "tha hood") who now have college degrees and families. Just because you come from a bad part of town doesn't excuse being a violent idiot.
UranusDestiny
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not exactly popular music, but there is an Irish Republican song called My Little Armalite
I was stopped by a soldier he said "you are a swine"
He hit me with his rifle and he kicked me in the groin
I bowed and I scraped, sure my manners were polite
Ah, but all the time I was thinking of me little Armalite!
Chorus:
And it's up along the bogside that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with the Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
A brave RUC man came walking up our street
With 600 British soldiers gathered round his feet,
Come out ya cowardly Fenians come on out and fight
But he cried I'm only joking when he heard my Armalite!
Chorus:
And it's down along the Falls Road that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
The army came to visit me 'twas in the early hours
With saracens and saladins and buggered armoured cars,
They thought they had me cornered but I gave them all a fright
With the armourpiercing bullets of me little Armalite!
Chorus:
And it's up in Crossmaglen that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
Well the premier came to Belfast to see the battles won
The generals had told them we have them on the run,
The corporals and privates while on patrol at night
Said "send home for re-enforcement's it's the bloody Armalite!"
Chorus:
And it's up in old Poleglass that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
I was stopped by a soldier he said "you are a swine"
He hit me with his rifle and he kicked me in the groin
I bowed and I scraped, sure my manners were polite
Ah, but all the time I was thinking of me little Armalite!
Chorus:
And it's up along the bogside that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with the Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
A brave RUC man came walking up our street
With 600 British soldiers gathered round his feet,
Come out ya cowardly Fenians come on out and fight
But he cried I'm only joking when he heard my Armalite!
Chorus:
And it's down along the Falls Road that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
The army came to visit me 'twas in the early hours
With saracens and saladins and buggered armoured cars,
They thought they had me cornered but I gave them all a fright
With the armourpiercing bullets of me little Armalite!
Chorus:
And it's up in Crossmaglen that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
Well the premier came to Belfast to see the battles won
The generals had told them we have them on the run,
The corporals and privates while on patrol at night
Said "send home for re-enforcement's it's the bloody Armalite!"
Chorus:
And it's up in old Poleglass that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
mljdeckard
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I will not let my kids think that violence is trivial or funny. I will not expose them to material that minimalizes the consequences and glorifies the perpetrator. You do what you want.
DougDubya
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One thing that annoys me is when the video channels edit out any mention of a gun, such as Sublime's Santeria, where a cowboy's ".45" is deleted.
Shinedown also had a song that was popular, but they nulled out the mention of a .45 in that song.
Shinedown also had a song that was popular, but they nulled out the mention of a .45 in that song.
Well, if you read the lyrics, it's about the guy thinking about suicide. However, they never censored that Marilyn Manson song that numerous people killed themselves after listening to, basically promoting suicide. As long as he tells teenagers to hang themselves, it's alright. Just as long as he doesn't make a reference to a gun in any manner.
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No decent, upstanding parent should let their children listen to the ghetto filth that is rap. If you DO allow this, shame on you. When your daughter wins the "Nicole Brown Simpson" award, don't come crying to me!
SteelyNirvana
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Do you mean Ozzy Osbourne's 1980 song "Suicide Solution". The one where you can supposedly hear him say "Get the gun and shoot"? There was a big controversy back in the mid 80's over this song. (IMO that's exactly what he's saying although in the interviews he swears he was just messing around with effects in the studio.) That song was actually written about AC/DC frontman Bon Scott who drank himself to death, hence the opening line "Wine is fine but whiskey's quicker, suicide is slow with liquor."
Never heard of anyone killing themselves after listening to Manson.
hank327
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Love and a .45
Love and a .45
By Chris Knight
Badge number 301
Sits in his car and stares at his gun
He wipes the the blood from his shirt,
The sweat from his brow
He got out this time but he don't know how
Well he'd go on home but nobody's there
No one to hold no one to care
There was a time he had someone
But one day he came home, she was gone
Love and a .45
Are all you need to get through the night
One'll kill you one'll keep you alive
Love and a .45
Parole number fourteen two
Stands on the corner like she used to do
She's been away awhile so she's a little afraid
And the judge said he didn't want to see her again
But she's got no money she's got no rent
The money she had is already spent
Cause a couple of weeks ago she learned her lesson
Went and brought herself a little Smith and Wesson
Love and a .45
Are all you need to get through the night
One'll kill you one'll keep you alive
Love and a .45
At 3:15 he got a call, somebody heard a scream behind a wall
At a little motel down by the bay
But before he got there, they got away
Well she was all right just a little roughed up
So he took her down to the coffee shop
The report he filed saidvictim unknown
Now she waits up nights for him to come home
Love and a .45
Are all you need to get through the night
One'll kill you one'll keep you alive
Love and a .45
Love and a .45
Are all you need to get thru the night
One'll kill you one'll keep you alive
Love and a .45
Love and a .45
By Chris Knight
Badge number 301
Sits in his car and stares at his gun
He wipes the the blood from his shirt,
The sweat from his brow
He got out this time but he don't know how
Well he'd go on home but nobody's there
No one to hold no one to care
There was a time he had someone
But one day he came home, she was gone
Love and a .45
Are all you need to get through the night
One'll kill you one'll keep you alive
Love and a .45
Parole number fourteen two
Stands on the corner like she used to do
She's been away awhile so she's a little afraid
And the judge said he didn't want to see her again
But she's got no money she's got no rent
The money she had is already spent
Cause a couple of weeks ago she learned her lesson
Went and brought herself a little Smith and Wesson
Love and a .45
Are all you need to get through the night
One'll kill you one'll keep you alive
Love and a .45
At 3:15 he got a call, somebody heard a scream behind a wall
At a little motel down by the bay
But before he got there, they got away
Well she was all right just a little roughed up
So he took her down to the coffee shop
The report he filed saidvictim unknown
Now she waits up nights for him to come home
Love and a .45
Are all you need to get through the night
One'll kill you one'll keep you alive
Love and a .45
Love and a .45
Are all you need to get thru the night
One'll kill you one'll keep you alive
Love and a .45
"I don't allow wrestling in my house either. It and rap music glorify violence. My kids must learn that violence isn't trivial or humorous."
There's a few gems in here, though, deck....Howlin' Wolf, Skip James, Zevon. Seek them out and enjoy them, move swiftly past those that don't appeal.
I don't allow my children to watch wrestling either. The brat neighbor kid continually runs around grabbing his crotch, quoting what I assume to be modern wrestlers. I spend plenty of time undoing that with my kids.
There's a few gems in here, though, deck....Howlin' Wolf, Skip James, Zevon. Seek them out and enjoy them, move swiftly past those that don't appeal.
I don't allow my children to watch wrestling either. The brat neighbor kid continually runs around grabbing his crotch, quoting what I assume to be modern wrestlers. I spend plenty of time undoing that with my kids.
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how many of them go to prison for violent crimes? Drug crimes are typical. Don't even talk about gun crimes. The type of gun crimes some of them commit are what 99% of this forum what LOVE to do. Carry with out a license, have full autos, SBS/SBR, etc, etc.
Hey I'm not telling you how to raise your kids. That's none of my business. Let's just say that I grew up in the ghetto, listened to rap, watched violent movies, played violent video games, etc, and still came out to be a fine young man with good morals and ethics. Maybe I'm an exception? I doubt it.
Look at this guy.....
"oh my god look out! Rap is going to kill your family!! Hide your daughter because rap music is on the prowl!"
Well that is just great, one person maybe commits fewer crimes or goes straight. Yet they do so by making a living promoting and glamorizing a lifestyle that turns hundreds or thousands of other people in the direction of a life of crime.
Young males are impressionable, and just like advertising can get a percentage to buy logos and brand names no different than one without the advertising, a negative subculture being glamorized can have a huge impact.
I agree that with many it becomes just an act, but that glorified act is what makes many teenagers and young adults see it as an attractive, glamorous, and valid option for thier own lives.
K-rap.
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