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First Antique Gun Show- What to look for?

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by TTv2, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. TTv2

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    The 5 shot .36 caliber is not a non-traditional revolver tho, Remington made them in the New Model Police (they were largely converted to rimfire after tho), Colt made the 1862 Navy/Police, and I believe the Adams DA/SA was a 5 shot .45 caliber revolver.

    Would people be interested in a 5 shot 1858 .44 caliber? I think they would if like the 1862 Colt vs the 1851/1861 Colt the smaller 1862 weighed a pound less and felt better in the hand.

    I was just handling my 5" Pietta 1858 Sheriff last night and between it and the 8" Pietta I also have, the shorter barrel made it feel very different, much faster to bring up to aim and shoot. If that Sheriff model weighed half a pound less and had a similar barrel length, it would be THE cap and ball revolver to have.

    I think the reason why it hasn't been done is indeed tooling, but also their being way too much focus on full size revovlers that were used in the Civil War. 1851, 1860, 1858... those were the guns mostly used. The only reason I think Uberti makes the 1849 .31 is it was very popular back in the day with civilians and the 1862 mainly uses the same parts as the 49, so Uberti said, "Why not?"

    A medium sized Remington New Police style, while it's bigger than the 1863, it's a lot more shootable. For people who buy an 1863 (which from what I hear they're not that great, loading levers snapping, oversize bores, etc.) I'm sure if given the option they'd rather have a New Model Police Remington repro with 5 shots of .36 or .44 instead of .31.

    I look at that 1863 and I say to myself: Whoever the people who are buying them, it can't be that many compared to the larger Remington repros. So, if the market is that small for the 1863's, the Dance & Brothers, that completely non-traditional .36 pepperbox, and Pietta still makes those, then I don't see how they wouldn't be able to sell a ton of the NMP repros at $300.
     
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  2. arcticap

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    All I can say is that a company could shoot themselves in the foot if they think that a ton of people would buy a 5 shot Remington .36 when they already make a 6 shot Remington .36, or a 5 shot Remington .44 when they already make a 6 shot.
    And they already make the Colt 5 shot .36.

    Plus they would need to redesign a whole new set of parts and start a whole new production line.
    I just don't see that happening, but that doesn't mean that a fellow can't hope. ;)
     
  3. TheOutlawKid

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    Lots of people love the smaller uberti police models...and a lot of the owners of said guns love their remington models and im sure would really like to see the option of getting a smaller remington about the size of a colt 1862 mode. Its almost the best of both worlds.
     
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  4. LonesomePigeon

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    I do think a correctly sized Remington Police .36 caliber 5 shot repro would sell. I think people would like them because they are small like the Colt Pocket Police .36 caliber 5 shot repros but unlike the Colt, the Remington would not have cap jams. The Remington would also have better sights than the Colt.
     
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  5. LonesomePigeon

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    Regarding guns shows, I believe some of them are now allowing shoppers to come in on set-up day for an extra fee.
     
  6. TheOutlawKid

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    +1, exactly aa stated above
     
  7. TTv2

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    Yeah, it was $40 extra and I'm glad I didn't bother paying that extra.
     
  8. arcticap

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    I didn't even realize that Pietta does make an 1860 Colt 3" snub nose in .36 and .44 with bird's head grip.

    1. https://www.wholesalehunter.com/Product/Details/11231960?fs=1

    2. https://www.wholesalehunter.com/Product/Details/11231960?fs=1

    Or perhaps someone would like one of these 1873 percussion revolvers made by both Pietta and Uberti.
    Pietta makes them in many different barrel lengths.

    1. https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index...Pietta+1873+Percussion+Revolver+-+Blued+Steel

    2. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...evolver-44-caliber-55-barrel-steel-frame-blue

    3. https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1873-Black-Powder-Single-Action-44-4-3-4-p1870.htm

    As mentioned, I had a .36 New Belt Remington with a 6.5" barrel.
    I thought that it had a small grip.

    This one was made in 1973: --->>> https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/navy-arms-1858-new-belt-36.490766/

    aurora117.jpg aurora118.jpg aurora120.jpg

    I don't know how much weight could be saved by using a different frame and cylinder.
    Perhaps a little depending on the frame used.
    I guess someone should start a petition to persuade Uberti and Pietta to start making what people really want.
    Or find one of these older models and try to work with it.
     
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