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First day of "summer" trap league

Discussion in 'Competition Shooting' started by PapaG, Apr 8, 2018.

  1. PapaG

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    First day of our six-month summer league today. Big turnout and I had a bunch of my team show. Skipped my arthritis meds to be sharp and broke 24 @ 16, 25 @ hcp. Was high gun until last squad had a guy break all fifty. We've been trying to get on the same team for years. Other league begins the 19th. Be nice to keep that 98% going.
     
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  2. thomas15

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    Sounds good. My steel league starts next weekend. This winter seems as if it would never end.
     
  3. Armored farmer

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    Our local high school (Newton, Il)started a trap team. My son is on the team. I am a coach.
    We hsve had 2 wks of practice, next week we keep official score.
    The kids are improving by bounds.
    Some have bought bt99s, tristars, berettas, etc.
    The team has raised $7k in donations, enough to pay for targets and ammo.
    I am proud, and excited.
     
  4. PapaG

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    My boys are trying to get one started in Washington. Good for you.
     
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  5. Armored farmer

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    Good luck to him.
    We have 20 kids including 4 girls, and hey....they can shoot!
    The thing im excited about is that there are NO BENCHWARMERS!
    Everyone participates.
    The kids are having a ball.
    We're pushing safety first, and sportsmanship.
     
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  6. PapaG

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    At Peoria Skeet and Trap we have a summer youth league and my 12 year old granddaughter will be in her third year.
     
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  7. BigDog1955

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    I have never shot trap, 16 yards what do U use for shells, 1 oz or 1 1/8 oz and 9, 8 or 7 1/2 ? and handicap 21, 23 and 25 yards? 12 gage cokes? 16 yards I thought I would try sheet, handicap Imp cyl?? Starts tonight. Thinking 8 shot 1 1/8 oz at 16 yds 7 1/2 1 1/8 oz at handicap??
     
  8. PapaG

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    I shoot one ounce of eights for sixteen and an ounce and an eighth of 7 1/2 for anything back of 22 yards. My gun is a fixed choke full.
     
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  9. BigDog1955

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    11/8 OZ is just for upland bird hunting?
     
  10. PapaG

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    Most use 1 1/8 for sixteen and on back. I tried an ounce when i had back surgery and saw no difference in scores. Couple free boxes of shells per bag of shot.
    I don't get your question but maybe i answered it.
     
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  12. PapaG

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    No, I use one ounce from 16 and back to 20 or 21. #8. Further back I go to 1 1/8 of 7 1/2.
     
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  13. George P

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    1oz @1200fps is all you need. It takes 3 pellets to break a clay target. At 16 yards, put in a M; past 22-23, use your F or at least an IM choke. Use 7.5s for every distance.
     
  14. BigDog1955

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    Well I shot tonight, for the first time broke 16 at 16 yds and 21 at 23 yds. Kind of got a feel for it after a few shots. It was fun. thanks for the help
     
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  15. entropy

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    I am coaching for a combined school Trap team, as well as for 4-H Trap. (A lot of the same kids) We shot in sleet the first week, and snow last week. So far I've noticed a few things;
    1. There is very little actual coaching going on. The head coach does, when she gets out to the line, and one other gal, too. All the guys, myself excepted, just pull, score and guide the kids on loading the traps. :scrutiny:
    2. The boys mostly do not take instruction well. I'll tell them a tip, they do it the rest of that station, (and shoot better) then go back to missing. I told a stringbean that when his 6'5" self aims straight out, he's letting the bird get a head start out of the trap. He aimed at the top of the Trap the rest of that round, then the next, went back to aiming straight out. Needless to say his score dropped back down, too. o_O
    3. A lot of the kids are shooting guns that either are way too big for them, or in the case of one, just taken out of the box and fired. (You might get away with that in the summer, but not in sleet and snow.) The one kid had a brand new Maverick 88, still had preservative in it, even the second week. His dad swore up and down he'd 'gone over it', yet I could see the preservative, and the gun had about 12 FTF's per round. The kid is a natural shot, and to his credit, he'd hit the bird after two 'click' s. I told him to get it into a gunsmith, but I doubt he did. I missed last night's practice, maybe he'll have it working by Monday.
    4. The kids, for the most part, did not dress for the weather. One girl shot her two rounds in the snow in a polyester UnderArmor shirt and her Trap vest.
    5. The basics were not covered well at the orientation, from what I've observed. (I wasn't at the orientations, I came in at the first practice.) I intend to rectify that by handing this out next Monday:

    "Right now, you're standing facing the target with the shotgun loaded, safety on. Your feet are roughly shoulder width apart, and you advance your support(the foot on the same side as the hand that supports,rather than fires, the weapon) side foot about a foot or so.The shotgun is NOT at PORT ARMS, but pointed safely downrange. AS you bring the rear portion of the shotgun up to your shoulder, you swing the firing side elbow up and out, so that arm ends up roughly parallel to the ground. This forms the POCKET, where the butt of the shotgun goes.As the butt goes into the pocket, your cheek automaticaly goes to the comb of the stock,making contact and becoming the rear sight of the shotgun.

    As the shotgun is mounted, lean into it, causing your support side knee to bend further, until you are ALMOST overbalanced. This provides some give to the recoil and speeds recovery. Make sure the butt is fully in the pocket, no butt showing over the top of the shoulder, but not anchored well below the top either. Make sure you're using the the support hand to not only hold the weapon up, but are actually pressuring the butt into the pocket with a slight rearward push.

    Now, when you're ready, take the safety off and fire. Notice how the kick is tolerable and you move back into firing position almost automatically. If you need to cycle the action of a pump,this can occur as the recoil cycle is happening, losing no time for repeat shots. After firing, reapply the safety, and reload as needed,keeping the muzzle pointed safely downrange.

    As you get better at this, you can progress to heavier loads, but do it by stages. Turkey loads and heavy slugs need great form and control.

    And you may worry about looking silly bending that front knee that much, but you won't hurt."

    Some of you might recognize it, it was posted on here many years ago.

    Big Dog 1955; I shoot a Super Full Remchoke, at 16 or yardage. I did buy an IM this winter, might pop that in for 16.
     
  16. PapaG

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    I did the 4H shooting sports coaching for archery and Trap, got my NRA shotgun certification and help with the youth league, open houses, and new shooters in my club. Give me a girl student over a boy any time...they want to show the boys how to do it and will pay attention to learn how. Most of the boys will try but once they reach about sixteen don't want to listen to a graybeard, even one who has a bucket full.of patches, a wall.of trophies, and a lifetime 96 average.
    I got a spare stock for my 1100, cut it down and put the skeet barrel on to start my granddaughter out. She's ready now for the regular stock.
    I'd rather help and watch a kid break his or her first fifteen or twenty than another fifty myself.
     
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  17. Armored farmer

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    View attachment 785474 20180412_182056_001.jpg 20180412_182240.jpg 20180412_182237.jpg
    A few pics from the h.s. trap team.
    Im so proud of this program.
    My son is in the black tshirt shooting his grandpas 4E.
     
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  18. PapaG

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    Week two nothing to brag about. A 47, 45, and the other three got us a to t all of 197/250. We will be back at 23 yards. I feel pretty good myself, 49, 49, 47.
     
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  19. BigDog1955

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    That is great, lucky to even brake on every other time but, I did get some advice the other night and I was setting up completely wrong, aiming at the wrong areas to start, hope this helps. :)
     
  20. PapaG

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    Eight weeks in and we are leading the top division, but only by eight birds. 215/250 average overall. No 50 straights yet but a pile of 25s.
     
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  21. George P

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    Do NOT aim; learn to point with both eyes open focusing ONLY on the target, not any bead or glowworm

    Read this brochure from Remington - it gives tips and hints for hold and break points:

    http://damascusiwla.org/Remington_Trap_Fundamentals_2004.pdf

    They also have one for skeet
     
  22. Armored farmer

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    Im taking two of my boys in tbe morning to Brittany for class singles at the Illinois State ATA trapshoot, then again on Saturday for singles championship.
    Wish us luck.
     
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    Good luck!
     
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  24. Armored farmer

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    Our state shoot was pretty uneventful as far as our scores.
    I wasnt able to quite get over the hump, shooting a 98 on Thursday, then a 97 and a 99 on Saturdays 200.
    My oldest son registered his first 25x25 followed by his second 25x25 back to back. Making his first 50x50.
    My youngest son (15yo) shot 89s and 90s over the weekend.
    We saw some old friends, and made some new ones. All told it was a great weekend.

    I hope @PapaG doesnt mind me posting in his thread. (Im betting he wont)
     
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  25. BigDog1955

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    Sounds like a great weekend. We got rained out, we start the three qualifying rounds of summer league. I'm starting to get a feel for the game, set up is getting to be the same and starting to see the bids better, the rifle still shows up when shooting.
     
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