First squib

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I bought my brass rods on Amazon, but I should have paid a little more to get the ones at Brownells instead.
 
Tallinar said:
I really can’t get the thing to budge. Have tried to hammer it pretty good with a dowel rod and also a brass punch. Have let some CLP sit in the barrel for several hours to hope to lube it up, but no dice.

What’s my next step?

Bullet is a fairly soft .452 230 gr RNFP from MBC.
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Don't use a dowel, never use wood in the barrel. If you're curious, google "I've got a wooden dowel stuck in my barrel and can't get it out". Peruse the 7 or 8 million hits. Use a brass rod that is near in size the bore, but not tight. Force from the front...in other words, push the bullet backwards, towards the breach end of the barrel. Put the barrel in a padded vice, insert brass rod, and put some azz into it. Don't be gentle if it's not easily coming out. Hit it hard, it will come out. If you've already pounded on the base of the bullet, you're screwed...move on to the next step. If you've pounded on the base of the bullet, or just can't get it out hammering (which you should, 99% of the time it will, usually it's because you're being cautious, don't be afraid to really get on it), then you'll have to move on to more drastic measures, like drilling it out and collapsing it, or using a puller jig. Sucks, but anybody who's shot and been around guns long enough has experienced this joyful event.
 
AJC1 said:
The only sqibs I've dealt with are in semi pistols and those are easily dealt with... a revolver squib that bridges the cylinder and forcing cone is a nightmare I have and don't want to experience.
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Oh yeah, been there. That is not a fun one to work through. I installed a set of cheap sacrificial grips so the good grips wouldn't get mangled in the vice. Mounted entire gun in vice. Hammered squib backwards into cylinder. Removed cylinder, put in padded vice, hammered rest of way out of cylinder. Took a week in small steps, working slowly and carefully to avoid damaging gun. Also, just to add.....it was also nerve racking because working on a loaded gun counters ever instinct I have, as of course, Murphy made sure it was the first round of the day that squibbed.
 
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EricBu said:
Oh yeah, been there. That is not a fun one to work through. I installed a set of cheap sacrificial grips so the good grips wouldn't get mangled in the vice. Mounted entire gun in vice. Hammered squib backwards into cylinder. Removed cylinder, put in padded vice, hammered rest of way out of cylinder. Took a week in small steps, working slowly and carefully to avoid damaging gun. Also, just to add.....it was also nerve racking because working on a loaded gun counters ever instinct I have, as of course, Murphy made sure it was the first round of the day that squibbed.
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Nice Write Ups!!!!

Revolver squibs are a whole different beast!
 
Mark_Mark said:
from the muzzle, I know, I’m carful of the crown
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I think the question was actually for the OP.

As a last resort with lead bullets try a bullet puller, the kind made for round ball in black powder guns. You screw into the bullet and use a device kind of like a gear puller to pull it out. They work without fail but are a chore to use.
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
I think the question was actually for the OP.

As a last resort with lead bullets try a bullet puller, the kind made for round ball in black powder guns. You screw into the bullet and use a device kind of like a gear puller to pull it out. They work without fail but are a chore to use.
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from the breech end? I need to get one if them! I see BF in my future.

The only Black Powder plant in America, GoEx, got bought in January by Estes model rocket motor company. They are bring Back BP!!! YAaaaa!!!
 
CQB45ACP said:
I bought a squib rod in 45ACP from brownell’s (actually came in pairs for some reason). Fits the barrel perfectly so one could wail away in confidence I guess.

Since I only load on a turret press or single stage using published loads, any squib I might have would be from some mighty bad inattention.
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Mine came as a pair also & look like yours except not marked. I used a published starting load and was getting unburned powder on the barrel & cylinder face on my first attempt. I recrimped them tighter and the rest all shot. I was using HP-38 and stepped up the load with a moderate crimp and no more unburned powder since.
 
Mark_Mark said:
from the breech end? I need to get one if them! I see BF in my future.

The only Black Powder plant in America, GoEx, got bought in January by Estes model rocket motor company. They are bring Back BP!!! YAaaaa!!!
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https://www.txfowlers.com/products/...YiTqBQE9yPCmVu-xngXp3WA_U9YH9orAaAnLdEALw_wcB
Not much is done from the breech end of a muzzle loader. It’s basically a self-tapping screw on one end and a 10-32 screw on the other to fit a cleaning rod or reverse thread screw jack/gear puller.
 
Mark_Mark said:
$2.99 Now that’s a Deal Worth getting 4 of them!
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Actually I’m not entirely right about not much being done from the breech end of a muzzle loader. There’s also CO2 adapters that replace the nipple for blowing out stuck balls. Almost forgot about that.
 
CQB45ACP said:
How’re the toilets working though?
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Completely torn, last week, I throw away a old cast iron sink with brass everything, and a bunch of other old stuff from a renovation. I could have used it to make brass punch, vise jaw protector….. but I knew me and I would have kept it for another 5 years, taking up space
 
The only squib i have had was 45acp in blackhawk revolver, primer fired, jammed cylinder/cone. Broke off a wooden dowel trying to get out. Gunsmith succeeded with brass rod and hammer. He pointed out there was no sign of powder in shell at all.
Careless on my part. IF cylinder had not been jammed I might have shot the next bullet, very bad.
 
Tallinar said:
Got it. Ordered a 2 pack of 3/8” brass rods on Amazon for $8. Came right out with ease once I had the right tool.

Sometimes you just need to patiently wait for the right tool instead of fretting and trying to brute force a problem.

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Grab a plastic face deadblow hammer to add to your tool collection. Great for squibs and drifting sights.
 
Tallinar said:
It was this or the rubber mallet. Rubber mallet wasn’t quite cutting it.

A couple little love taps from the big hammer was all it took once I had a good brass rod. Came nowhere close to deforming the brass.
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“You gotta be subtle.”
Mike Hammer
:cool:
 
Tallinar said:
It was this or the rubber mallet. Rubber mallet wasn’t quite cutting it.

A couple little love taps from the big hammer was all it took once I had a good brass rod. Came nowhere close to deforming the brass.
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some people use this:

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I perfer this

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