Flashlight as kubaton

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MillCreek

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I have posted here before about the use of a small flashlight as a kubaton. Since I am often in government buildings on business, my conventional kubatons generally do not pass the security screen. Since I have not been happy with the many flashlights I have used as a kubaton, I am still using an old Monadnock Persuader Model 2. In order to have an emergency light source, I attached a Photon Freedom Light to my keychain.

My concerns with the flashlights have usually been the weight, the diameter, the light output or how badly it gets beat up in my pocket attached to the keys. I am in a business suit five days a week, and large or heavy flashlights do not carry well in suit pants. I must have tried out more than 10 small flashlights, from xenon to LED bulbs, from N cells to double AAs, from anodized aluminum to neon-colored polycarbonate. A partial list would be the AA MagLite (xenon and LED), various Inova models, Streamlight and Pelican N cell flashlights, Streamlight AAA xenon dive lights, Underwater Kinetics AAA dive lights, the Streamlight BatonLite, etc.

I am pleased to report that I have just found a new flashlight that bodes well for use as a kubaton. I was in a local variety store (Fred Meyer, for anyone else in the Pacific NW), and saw a new flashlight hanging on the rack. It is the Garrity LED penlight and cost $ 7. A picture can be seen here: http://www.geekbro.com/index.cfm/hu...200gst06a-Nichia-Led-Stainless-Steel-Penlight

It is a long, thin flashlight with a tail clicky switch, a single 5 mm Nichia LED, takes two AAA batteries and has a robust stainless steel body. It is about a quarter inch longer than my Persuader kubaton. The beam is a tight, white spot with very little flood. It is brighter than the beam from my Photon Freedom light. It is not as bright as my Luxeon or Cree flashlights, but then again, those LEDs do not come in as small or inexpensive a form factor.

It did not have an attachment point for my keyring, so I drilled a small hole where the clip attaches to the body and put a split ring through the hole.

I have done some testing, and the flashlight still works after drop testing, whacking it against a counter and I cannot bend the tube body of the light. The brushed stainless steel conceals scratches and the like very well. The switch requires a firm click to activate, and so far it has not come on while in my pocket. Using common (AAA) batteries is a plus, and since it is a LED, I should get some very good battery life from this model.

If you also like to use a flashlight as a kubaton, think about this model.

PS: edited to add that the LED is recessed and behind a lens.
 
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I would also point out that this would be an excellent penlight for the medical field. I used to work in emergency medical services, and a durable, bright penlight that can be easily cleaned, has accurate color rendition, has a pocket clip and runs on cheap and easily obtained batteries, is very useful.

The disposable penlights we used to get from the drug reps are almost useless, since they are so dim. A larger, heavier, or knurled flashlight drags down the pocket of your scrubs or digs into your flesh.
 
The problem with LEDs is that they are too bright to be useful at very close range for looking in patient's eyes.
 
LED's being too bright for work with an individual's eye

JShirley is right about the LED's brightness.

On CandlePower forum (those guys/gals are something else), I am certain that one of those wiz kids can figure a way to adjust the brightness of a light to fit different situations. There goes the cost attractiveness (probably), but it would address the need for variable brightness if that is what you need.

Several lights on the market, and tail switches, that will adjust lumens, strobe, etc. Cost is the factor.

Also, a good machinist can cut a "defense oriented" end piece for your light. I have seen several on a couple of different forums for the ED2. Wicked and would not pass security in a govt building. Can attach when out of restricted areas.
 
MillCreek has my belabored efforts beaten hands down. K.I.S.S. is always the way.

I'm just always amazed by what folks with technical knowledge can do.
 
What's wrong w/ the streamlight batonlite?? I'm curious to why you didn't like it. I love mine. I bought it prior to 9-11-01 and it sat in a desk drawer. But post 9-11-01 w/ every building and public place setting up metal detectors and not allowing knives, kubatons,etc. I decided to start using my batonlite as a EDC. Everytime some security guard tries to hassle me about "No kubatons" allowed, I show them that it's not a kubaton but a flashlight and I pass right through the checkpoint. Even the bailiffs in the local courthouse don't hassle me about it, they ask me where they can buy one.
 
I still have my BatonLite, and I am just not thrilled with the light output and the diffuse nature of the beam. By personal preference, I generally tend to prefer a more focused spot beam than a diffuse flood beam. I also thought that the anodizing was not especially durable. I did not find it a particular problem to find N cells, but they are more expensive than the AAA or AA cells.

However, I know of many people who are very pleased with their BatonLites, and they do take a licking and keep on ticking. My issues with it are merely personal preferences.

PS: Edited to add: although I have not yet seen one in the flesh, the Streamlight Stylus Pro ($ 25) looks very interesting as a flashlight/kubotan.
 
in the pocket as a back up is the aa mini mag,:uhoh:

in the hand is the 4D mag.
have not gotten a chance to use it yet...hope it stays that way, but a mag with 4D cells will put a dent in bone.:what:


:D

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Its funny but despite having a SureFire 6P and a Night Ops Gladius I have recently taken to carrying an old an battered AA Mini Mag Lite in a new and regular situation I now find myself in where I cannot easily carry anything else 'just in case'.
 
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