flintlock rifles

[jakejones]

I've been shooting blackpowder pistols, precussion muzzle loaders and single shot rifles (sharps) for some time. I am thinking about buying a flintlock rifle in 45 or 50 caliber. I am looking for information on what company produces the best Pennsylvania style long barrelled flintlock or what are my best avenues to find one at a reasonable cost. Don't know if I have the skill to build from a kit.
just looking for some help and direction
thanks

 

[arcticap]

I recommend this reputable outfit first:

http://www.avsia.com/tvm/

Another is Jim Chambers who is a reputable lock maker:

http://www.flintlocks.com/index.htm

These outfits carry Pedersoli:

Cherry's Page 1:

http://www.cherrys.com/ped_rif1.htm

Cherry's Page 2:

http://www.cherrys.com/ped_rif2.htm

Dixie Gun Works:

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/default.php?cPath=22_92_186_190

 

[Das Jaeger]

Hi Jake

TVM has complete guns, partial kit s, full kits , whatever your heart desires, Siller locks or better . They do good work and not ungodly priced.
Hard to go wrong with Pedersoli either for the money .

Jaeger

 

[giggitygiggity]

I have a T/C Hawken and absolutely love it. It is plenty accurate and looks great.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

500 to 850 for a full stock long gun off a production line. For a few hundred to 800 more, you can get a custom long rifle from a few dozen different makers. There are some big makers like Jim Chambers and many smaller outfits. I have dealt with Brad emig at Cabin Creek gun shop in Hellam pa and he is first rate. Google for his web site. He has several pictures of his various models. For a dozen links for such shops check the contemporary longrifle society's web site. A production line gun is one thing, a custom gun from the likes of Cabin Creek is a family heirloom.

 

[alemonkey]

http://www.trackofthewolf.com

Prepare to drool

 

[Mike OTDP]

Try Track of the Wolf. They have a range of guns for sale, including some spectacular custom rifles.

For kits, I recommend Dunlap Woodcrafts very highly. They have fully inleted stocks (the big headache).

 

[jakejones]

Thanks

just wanted to say thanks for the help. Still lookin gbut with sound advice probably will make a decison soon

 

[Cosmoline]

Building your own takes a lot of work but it's also a ton of fun. I really like the Southern mountain style for a starter, which is full stock rifle with iron furniture and really clean, simple lines. They were made for hard field use and don't require the same level of ornamentation as other styles. The "poor boy" subtype is even more no-frills.

If you do go for a true kit, get good chisels and spend more for the best wood. You won't regret it.

 

[JamesKelly]

Chambers has the best locks, period.

Green Mountain makes the strongest barrels. Unless you go to custom barrel maker Jim McLemore whose are the best.

Pedersoli makes a solid, functional rifle but their best one, the Frontier, is copied from a Hadfield--not particulary authentic. I kinda like their .54 cal Jaeger. OK as-is, could be gussied up a bit with brass buttplate, triggerguard & a bone forend cap.

 

[Das Jaeger]

Jaeger

JamesKelly wrote ( Chambers has the best locks, period.

Green Mountain makes the strongest barrels. Unless you go to custom barrel maker Jim McLemore whose are the best.

Pedersoli makes a solid, functional rifle but their best one, the Frontier, is copied from a Hadfield--not particulary authentic. I kinda like their .54 cal Jaeger. OK as-is, could be gussied up a bit with brass buttplate, triggerguard & a bone forend cap. ) End quote ...........

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Jake the Jaeger is one I would have to agree on with JamesKelly , ( not the Chambers Locks or Green Moutnain Barrels though ) , especially now since they are on sale for $695 at Dixie , normally $995 . For a production gun they are pretty nicely built . If you buy the Percussion model , then you can buy the Jeager Lock seperate and its a drop in fit , then you'll have two rifles , one for the rain and one for the non-rain
Not sure about gussyin it up with a stinkin brass buttplate though , it has a very fancy scalloped hammered steel CCH'd plate that is gorgeous as it is .

Not sure how you can get much nicer or fancier than that for a buttplate on a fullstock Rifle !!!!!!! ??????
Same with the Trigger guard, its very fancy as is .

Here it is in its stock form , just beautiful as is .

For a great woods gun that has the cpability to go back and forth from Rock-Lock to Percussion , this one is very hard to beat , especially now . And bye the way with the double phase double set triggers and Jaeger lock that is on this gun with fly tumblers and everything , a Chambers lock is definately not better , and the Jaeger locks are over $200 for a reason , thier AWSOME . Chambers $175 ..........
And they can be gussied up alright too ..Without ugly brass buttplate and trigger guard or bone forend cap ?




Hopefully you'll find something you like allot and buy it Good luck to you .

Das Jeager

 

[mykeal]

Edited. See below.

 

[mykeal]

Changing from percussion to flintlock involves a good deal more than changing locks. At the very least you must replace the drum with a touch hole vent liner. In terms of a 'drop in' changeover, that involves changing both the lock and barrel. However, Dixie Gun Works offering of their Germanic Jaeger style percussion rifle plus separate flintlock and vent liner parts appears to make this as simple as can be.

 

[snooperman]

Try to build your own and you will not regret it

You can find some one to build you one for less than $900 but I built three long rifles and two pistols from scratch. Buy your pre-inletted stock for the barrel, Siler locks, etc from Track of the Wolf, etc or from any other supplier. You can do it and it will be a very rewarding experience. I have won many matches and been to many Rendezvous with them. Yes, I made a few mistakes, but they are my creations and I am proud of my effort. My 2 cents

 

[Cosmoline]

The big cost with building your own is on the first one when you may have to get special tools. It's a steep learning curve, at least it was for me. After that it gets easier and cheaper. There's nothing like firing off your first round from a flintlock you put together yourself. Plus you can customize it for your own preferences re. sight styles, length of pull, type of trigger, etc.

 

[DrLaw]

I've got the Flintlock Jaeger, and simply put, I love it.

Now, that said, you would be wise once you get it to go over to the Muzzleloading Forums for any help you will need. For starters, you don't pack the powder down on a flintlock, you slide it in and push the ball until it touches the powder.

On a percussion, you are forcing flame into the powder, on a Flintlock, you are coaxing the flame into the powder. Packing down the powder can reduce the airspace to coax that flame.

There's a ton of other tips, too. I read a lot of them, and my gun will go bang every time now, or almost, if i do my part.

The Doc is out now.