Florida Home Defense Deterrents in response to recent burglaries

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MannytheGreek

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Hey all,

My parents are moving to Florida for retirement . The home that they are moving to is surrounded by water on two sides,their neighbor on another side, and florida preserve with approximately 100 meters between them and the highway.

On the other side of that expressway, a few home invasions have taken place, although it must be admitted that the neighborhood on that side is rougher. My parents arent very proficient with firearms, and due to allergies cannot have a dog in the house.

They are concerned because their new house has a "lanai." I didnt know what that was at first either, but is a screen outside your house that encloses the pool. They are very common in Florida. Thing is, someone could cut right through that screen pretty easily,and have the above home invasions. If any of you have any suggestions for anti-burglary systems for this type of house setup, I am all ears.

I live in Michigan, so I dont have much experience with this type of environment.

See attached photos for pic of a lanai and a poor schematic of what the setup is like.

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"and have the above home invasions"

what do you mean? What's the issue with just securing the door leading to the pool from the house in normal fashion (deadbolt, alarm)?
 
Do they have sliding glass doors? It’s often pretty easy to pry up a sliding door and pop it out of the track. Install stainless screws in the top of the track and leave enough sticking out to allow the door to slide, but not to move up. Install a good quality door bar.

Check to make sure the doorframe recesses for the deadbolts are cut deep enough so the bolts will fully extend. Contractors frequently don’t bother. Then replace the light-weight striker plate with a heavy-duty one that uses 6-8 screws. Use long screws and run them into the wood behind the frame. If it’s a block house, drill into the block.
 
Japle,

Thank you so much for your advice. Obviously a home security system is a priority but many times people leave their sliding glass doors open as it is so warm most times of the year (during the day), hence the request for a security solution that is part of the lanai.

Any more suggestions would be helpful
 
Seems to me to be a difficult set up to safeguard..... but you already knew that.

Priorities would be reinforcing the doors as Japle suggested, and not leaving the slider open when they're not home.

Another good trick, is a dummy camera or two, and a sign/window sticker or the like that notes the house is protected by a system. (ADT style thing.) It won't stop anyone who's intent on coming in, but may help to deter people from trying it.
 
people leave their sliding glass doors open as it is so warm most times of the year (during the day), hence the request for a security solution that is part of the lanai.

There are steel framed security screens, carried by most of the home improvement stores. They're available for sliding glass doors as well...

http://www.columbiamfg.com/product.asp?prodid=94&catid=5&type=Models

http://www.columbiamfg.com/product.asp?prodid=95&catid=5&type=Models

http://patiosecuritydoor.com/pictures.html

etc.

hth,

lpl
 
Where are they moving to? If this is a retirement village- don't worry about anything. Nothing happens there except a few golf cart related crimes.

Get a fence if they don't have one, and a wooden dowel rod to put in the sliding glass door track.

Or stay up north :evil:


(Sorry - Florida is good but dang there are alot of retired ppl from up north here)
 
Japle,

Thank you so much for your advice. Obviously a home security system is a priority but many times people leave their sliding glass doors open as it is so warm most times of the year (during the day), hence the request for a security solution that is part of the lanai.

No one leaves their doors open - it's too hot and the bugs will get in - live here know that - if someone is that determined to get in, it isn't going to matter much.

One thing to do around the screen to allow privacy and stop your cutting scenario is to plant very thorny plants - roses, berries, citrus, etc. around the perimeter as well as under the rest of the windows in the house. The screen door on the screened in patio will have locks - not the best, but it slows you down for a few seconds - coupled with motion lights, alarm, etc - should give them some time. Depending on where they're going to live, peacocks can be good alarm pets.

If it is a gated retirement community, many are fairly safe, as there are "eyes and ears" around all day long
 
Look on the Sportsman Guide site, they have a motion detector for less than $70 that will take the place of a dog.
 
Alarm Screens

If the screen is cut or removed the burglar alarm goes off. I have a buddy in Kendal Miami-Dade that makes them. If your parents have an alarm the screen Lanai can be added to their perimeter zone.
 
Manny:

As a LEO here in the great melting pot (and retirement community) of Florida, I would have to agree with several of the above users. My suggestion as a guy who continually deals with these EXACT type homes everyday are as follows:

1.) Buy and place a double motion light at front right and rear left corner of the residence. Point the light down one side of the house and the other down the other side. Once you have installed both double motion lights (depending on the size and shape of the house) you should have total coverage. I would also buy and place one above the garage door pointing in the driveway or at their vehicles. Although not a TOTAL deterant to a subject thinking about committing a crime, it makes them think twice about snooping around in very well lit areas. It can also alert your parents when something is moving around the house.

2.) Make sure as Japle said, don't go cheap with finding a way to secure the sliders. 85% or burgalies down here occur when the subject(s) make entry through a slider or "french type" doors. It is very VERY simple to pop open a slider simply by lifting up and laying it down. My suggestion is the same way I secure mine. Make sure they are using the "inside" slider door...that way you can place a large 2x2 or even steel pole (cut to length) between the rear of the slider and the slider door frame. Dont' be fooled, the little crappy lock that secures your slider is easily defeated with a common flat head screw driver. I also use a metal dowel pin that I screwed through BOTH doors to prevent the door from being lifted up and "popped".

3.) When your parents are not home, I would also suggest that they close their blinds or curtains to prevent anyone from looking inside. If they can't stand closing the blinds, at a minumum make sure they do not leave valuables that tempt burglars to steal in the first place. Perfect example, I answered an alarm call the other day. Upon arrival, the front "french" doors were wide open. Of course my zone partner and I cleared the house and it seems as though it was a bad lock up...however, every blind and curtain were open. The home owner had jewelry on the table paired with about $300 in twenties. They also many other valuables just laying around. It would have been very easy for someone to see the door wasn't secured when the homeowner left and take advantage of the goodies inside.

4.) As far as the screen lanai or "pool deck" is concerned, they are only designed to prevent trash from blowing in the pool and a tad bit of shade and nothing else. They are not made of steel and screen is just that....a screen. The tiny cheap lock is easily defeated when you cut a small hole beneath the door handle and reach in unlocking it by hand. Don't be fooled to think a locked pool deck will keep out a criminal....ALWAYS lock the doors leading into the home from the pool deck when your not home...ALWAYS.

5.) Camera systems are great and all, but they are expensive and they do required continuous maintainance and attention. They are great for catching the burglar on film, however...unless the burglar is known to the home owner or is wearing a picture of a license on his t-shirt...he will only be identified as a w/m, b/m, w/f, b/f, with said clothing if even that. Every now and then a camera does help solve a case...so they can be effective but costly. Fake cameras are also a smart idea. But as we see from the evening news everynight, it doesn't stop the handy way robbers from robbing that store or that bank.

6.) Honestly, in my entire 6 years of being a LEO I have never responded to a burglary where the home owner owned a large/medium sized dog. Dogs IMHO are the best way to make sure your home is never broken into. They'll alert you when your home or sleeping and make a burglar think twice about trying to go inside when your not there. However, as you advised earlier, they can't have a dog because of allergy issues...so, the next best thing is a ridiculously LOUD siren. Make sure when it is installed that it is installed at both the front, rear (exterior) AND interior of the residence...sirens are cheap and easy to install. Also make sure that any exterior siren you install is installed inside the soffit just below the roof. That way, the wires cannot be cut and the siren cannot be seen...and it will still be loud enough to wake the dead. You'd be suprised how many alarms we respond to that were called in by neighbors or passer bys because it was audible. In many instances, we have had calls where a burglar made forced entry into the home...then scrammed when the audible alarm sounded...or got a lot less items than he orginally anticipated.

I could honestly go on all day about what helps. Point is, is that if someone is really intent of burglarizing or making forced entry into your home...their gonna do it. And as far as "home invasions" go, they seriously rarely occur (home invasion meaning burglars entering your home with people inside). And usually when they do occur, it's scumbag on scumbag or someone who has a vendetta..or owes money...etc. This may all seem like alot, but when you make it part of your routine, you will not even notice. I practice these things daily at my own home...even with a P-car in my driveway. Criminals are criminals because they are inheirently stupid...thats why they are criminals. But just a few precautions and you can bring your chance of your home being targeted by huge amounts. I am not an expert and do not EVER claim to be. I am simply stating my observations based on my own personal experiences..take it for what it is. I'm sure someone will have something smart to say...but hey, what else are forums for?
 
A "Beware of Dog" sign will do about 20% of what a real dog will do, for only $2.

As the joke goes, drive a spike into the ground a attach it to a coil of chain, and get a big dog bowl and dog house for the back yard between the pool and the forest. If the dog isn't tied up, does the BG really want to figure out where the dog is?
 
Alarm systems (including motions, glass breaks, and having every door and window pinned, etc.) work well and if you can't afford one just get the stickers (Radio Shack) for each window of your home (install them professionally) and two yard signs for the front and back. I would replace the SGDs with some French Doors (looks better and can be a 'little' more secure).

A friend of mine has strobe lights set up on motion detectors near his sliding glass doors - instant blindness at night - and he enjoys his shotguns ... Also some people place toys in front of doors (makes noise when someone enters at night) and arrange their furniture as to funnel preps to desired locations :evil:
 
The only way to truly secure your home is to replace all doors with steel doors and steel frames. The Windows need the steel retractable hurricane louvers . They are operated by a button beside each window or a manual crank id you want to save a few bucks. Just about any other thing is just a deterrent. I recently secured a persons home that told a. Coworker of mine that they had no use of a security system bc they have a very aggressive rottweiler in the house. The called us back after their home was cleaned out and their dog was shot and killed.
 
I would add to what others have said:

Make sure that you have a lockable inner door for your garage area........many
people forget to close their overhead garage doors and the doors can be defeated with remote operators.
 
From what I have read:

1. the alarm signs help for SOME criminals. It is one more thing they need to deal with
2. Get a dog, if you don't have one and don't want one, get a large dog house and place it in a conspicuous place. put an empty bowl next to it.
3. Motion lights - get them and rig them up so anyone getting near the house is lit up.
4. Do not display valuables obviously through windows

Most criminals are lazy slugs which is why they are doing what they do. If they got to deal with your house with an alarm, a dog, a good set of locks, and motion lights for a unknown benefit many would rather go after that neighbor who does not have any of them. If you get unlucky and it is a real pro burglar, well, he/she are going to get in and beat all that security and chances are do it when you are not home. I just do not think many criminals are that level of intelligent and will go for the path of least resistance
 
Most houses built today take NO thought of security for it. Windows all over the place. Lots of them down low. Doors with glass in them. I'm about to build a house and I promise it will not be breachable without the use of power equipment.
 
My main piece of advice would be to not consider the lanai to be part of the house. Consider it part of the yard, and secure the doors into the house from the lanai just the same as you would secure any other exterior doors.

Also you mentioned no dogs in the house because of allergies, but if they could deal with one outside, I would put up a fence and have a large dog in the yard.
 
Do some research. Find 2 or 3 established, reputable LOCAL alarm companies. Have each submit a proposal. DO NOT accept any proposal until all have been submitted and evaluated.

Good guns are not cheap. Neither are good electronic security systems.

DWC

www.thepistolpad.com
 
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