For those who carry a revolver ???

[Kleanbore]

Pardon my crudeness, but subjective nothing. Smaller gun conceals better.

Not necessarily. In some jurisdictions, "concealed" simply means that the gun is covered. One should be able to cover any handgun.

In some, it means that a person would not recognize the covered object as a firearm. That is not objectively measurable. Different people perceive different things under different circumstances.

I was surprised to find that my 642 provided little or no apparent concealment advantage (in terns of the second definition) over my Ruger SR 9c, which was much more shootable and which had a much higher capacity.

And then there is "printing".

What does "concealed" mean in your neck of the woods?

 

[Mr. Mosin]

Not necessarily. In some jurisdictions, "concealed" simply means that the gun is covered. One should be able to cover any handgun.

In some, it means that a person would not recognize the covered object as a firearm. That is not objectively measurable. Different people perceive different things under different circumstances.

I was surprised to find that my 642 provided little or no apparent concealment advantage (in terns of the second definition) over my Ruger SR 9c, which was much more shootable and which had a much higher capacity.

And then there is "printing".

What does "concealed" mean in your neck of the woods?

@Kleanbore, I do believe I've determined your favorite word, lol. I do appreciate your... irksome-ness in dogging me (and other individuals) about carry choices, but in the end... it is just that- individual choices.

In regards to "concealed"... if I'm carrying concealed, I want said carry piece concealed, without printing. In my thinking, if either of those conditions are rendered null... I may as well tie a string through the trigger guard and string said carry piece about my neck as jewelry. Someone who knows what they're looking for may well recognize said printing, and that may well make me a target. If I print, in my mind, I may as well open carry.

 

[SharpDog]

Not necessarily. In some jurisdictions, "concealed" simply means that the gun is covered. One should be able to cover any handgun.

In some, it means that a person would not recognize the covered object as a firearm. That is not objectively measurable. Different people perceive different things under different circumstances.

I was surprised to find that my 642 provided little or no apparent concealment advantage (in terns of the second definition) over my Ruger SR 9c, which was much more shootable and which had a much higher capacity.

And then there is "printing".

What does "concealed" mean in your neck of the woods?

I was taught in my initial carry class in Texas maybe 40 years ago that 'concealed' means that other people cannot determine that you are carrying a firearm. That is what I go by today. I can, and do, open carry here in TN and I see carrying concealed now as a tactical and 'political' advantage. By 'political' I mean to be polite in company (don't scare the sheep or the paranoid). IMHO, If they can determine that I am carrying, these advantages are lost.

 

[Kleanbore]

@Kleanbore, I do believe I've determined your favorite word, lol.

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about carry choices, ...it is just that- individual choices.

Hopefully, informed choices.

When I first started carrying, I had no idea that I would be unable to successfully use the firearm I had chosen in the drills in a good defensive shooting course, and I did not know enough about handgun wounding mechanics to realize the real disadvantage that its capacity entailed.

I would have preferred some good advice beforehand.

In regards to "concealed"... if I'm carrying concealed, I want said carry piece concealed, without printing.

How do you describe "printing"?

Someone who knows what they're looking for may well recognize said printing

In some jurisdictions, the gun would be concealed as long as it is covered; in others, as long as it is not readily identifiable as a firearm by casual observation. That rules out a simple bulge, and detection by someone trained to detect it,

that may well make me a target. If I print, in my mind, I may as well open carry.

That sounds very extreme, but I do understand the sentiment.

I am a lot less concerned about being targeted than I am about alarming people.

People I have questioned have generally not detected my carrying of a single-column semi auto.

I think that's partly because of the thinness of the gun and the size of the grip; partly due to my clothing; partly due to my build; and partly due to the holster that I use.

I have never detected anyone carrying concealed, but I so not make it a point to look for it.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

I was taught in my initial carry class in Texas maybe 40 years ago that 'concealed' means that other people cannot determine that you are carrying a firearm. That is what I go by today. I can, and do, open carry here in TN and I see carrying concealed now as a tactical and 'political' advantage. By 'political' I mean to be polite in company (don't scare the sheep or the paranoid). IMHO, If they can determine that I am carrying, these advantages are lost.

???

Hopefully, informed choices.

When I first started carrying, I had no idea that I would be unable to successfully use the firearm I had chosen in the drills in a good defensive shooting course, and I did not know enough about handgun wounding mechanics to realize the real disadvantage that its capacity entailed.

I would have preferred some good advice beforehand.

How do you describe "printing"?

In some jurisdictions, the gun would be concealed as long as it is covered; in others, as long as it is not readily identifiable as a firearm by casual observation. That rules out a simple bulge, and detection by someone trained to detect it,

That sounds very extreme, but I do understand the sentiment.

I am a lot less concerned about being targeted than I am about alarming people.

People I have questioned have generally not detected my carrying of a single-column semi auto.

I think that's partly because of the thinness of the gun and the size of the grip; partly due to my clothing; partly due to my build; and partly due to the holster that I use.

I have never detected anyone carrying concealed, but I so not make it a point to look for it.

I have determined your favorite word to be "objective", good sir.

My particular unique scenario calls for usage of a revolver, in my thinking. I will not disclose it on a public forum, I do not desire pity. If you want details, feel free to PM me. I have made my informed choice.

I describe "printing" as being able to see enough of a concealed weapon to reveal that an individual is carrying concealed.

 

[Rexster]

The market success of large “smart” phones and small tablets, and the trend to keep them at or near waist level, has simplified the concealment of handguns. I remember a time when any bulge, at the waistline level, could trigger a VERY interesting encounter with security personnel, or the police.

 

[Kleanbore]

he market success of large “smart” phones and small tablets, and the trend to keep them at or near waist level, has simplified the concealment of handguns. I remember a time when any bulge, at the waistline level, could trigger a VERY interesting encounter with security personnel, or the police

Good point!

And reaching for a smart phone can get one shot.

 

[ms6852]

I believe you. About 25 years ago give or take a year, I was driving from Ft Polk, LA through Houston late at night when I encountered a detour due to construction. I got lost in trying to find I-10 and ended up in a residential street. I noticed a car following me pretty aggressively and persistently. I stopped and almost got rear ended by the car. I reached for my 686 with the 6" barrel and started walking towards the vehicle. I could only make two people in the front of the car and not in the rear. When I pointed my gun at the driver he talk off in reverse. I was lucky and needed a change of underwear.

At that time I did not have a license to carry but that gun always traveled with me. Now I carry the 3" barrel 686.

 

[ms6852]

First, that is extremely naive--the target will likely be moving fast, and require a very quick shot without deliberation,. Second, it may well take two or three hits to effect a timely physical stop.

It may be naive, but as you stated the target, you do mean the attacker, than the chances of getting hit by a fast moving target/attacker are to my advantage that I don't get hit. In reality, most people develop a false sense of security by having a firearm that they feel gives them protection. And it is all good and well whether you have a 5 shot revolver or a 15 shot firearm with extra rounds for back up. In truth if you do not put in trigger time, it does not matter what you carry, when its your time to go, ...you go.

 

[Kleanbore]

I reached for my 686 with the 6" barrel and started walking towards the vehicle. I could only make two people in the front of the car and not in the rear. When I pointed my gun at the driver he talk off in reverse. I was lucky and needed a change of underwear.

You were very lucky indeed.

One of them could have shot you in lawful self defense. Or you could have been charged with aggravated assault.

Never exit your vehlcle, never go toward trouble, and never point a firearm at anyone unless you are legally justified and have no other choice

It may be naive, but as you stated the target, you do mean the attacker, than the chances of getting hit by a fast moving target/attacker are to my advantage that I don't get hit.

If you are the shooter, he is the target.

He may be slashing, stabbing, or shooing.

In reality, most people develop a false sense of security by having a firearm that they feel gives them protection

You said it!

In truth if you do not put in trigger time, it does not matter what you carry, when its your time to go, ...you go.

Yes, and it's a bit more than "trigger time".

 

[Ugly Sauce]

For reasons unknown to me, I'm more accurate doing the "draw from concealment and put the first shot on target under two seconds" drill with a revolver than an auto-pistol, although the 1911A1 comes close. Out of three revolvers, a Bulldog .44spl, Security Six .357, and a S&W .44spl (25-3?) I can do best with the Security Six, and full power ammo.

 

[ms6852]

You were very lucky indeed.

One of them could have shot you in lawful self defense. Or you could have been charged with aggravated assault.

Never exit your vehlcle, never go toward trouble, and never point a firearm at anyone unless you are legally justified and have no other choice

Agree. Hindsight is 20 20, and that night was pure luck for me, I've grown wiser as time goes by.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

I believe you meant a Mdl 24 (or 21) good sir. I do not believe S&W has ever made a Mdl 25 in .44 Spl. Always labored under the impression that the M25's were variably chambered in .45 Colt or .45 Auto. The Target version of the M.... 21, I think it is.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

And you, good sir, are correct. It's sits in front of me at the moment and it is a 24-3. Nice "little" carry gun, if that can be applied to an N-frame. However, in a high riding holster it conceals very well in cooler/colder weather. Wouldn't work well with just a T-shirt. Previous owner had the hammer bobbed, which I like, but also had the chambers reamed to .44magnum, which I've never shot in it, or ever plan to. But it does shoot nice with a slightly hotter than normal .44 Special load.

 

[Bigdog357]

I carry both, but I prefer revolvers, cant give a good reason other than I like them. I like to carry this little fire breathing beast on occasion. Ruger Alaskan 44 Mag