jcwit
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Like they're going to admit to it? Ya Right!
There's certainly a good argument to be made that convicted violent criminals shouldn't be allowed to go and buy guns. But that's not what I want to start here, again...
Nonetheless, statements of fact or statements of opinion should be supported with evidence. Statements purporting to be fact, or statements of opinion, without support really aren't worth much.jcwit said:Like they're going to admit to it? Ya Right!
Nonetheless, statements of fact or statements of opinion should be supported with evidence. Statements purporting to be fact, or statements of opinion, without support really aren't worth much.
True enough -- a lot of opinions expressed by folks who don't necessarily have any qualifications, and a lot of misinformation stated as fact without any supporting evidence or reference to some reliable source.jcwit said:With that said I believe most statements on the internet forums aren't worth much.
Many here seem to believe the consequences of dishonesty should include the removal of the means of self-defense.
There ARE other means besides a gun, so that is a moot point.
What are the most common felonies committed in the US? A list of the 20 most common felonies in the US.
(1) Drug abuse violations 1,841,182
(2) Driving while Intoxicated 1,427,494 (aka Felony DUI)
(3) Property crime 1,610,088 (includes burglary[11], larceny[4], theft[4], motor vehicle theft[19], and arson.)
(4) Larceny-theft 1,172,762 [3]
(5) Assault 1,305,693
(6) Disorderly conduct 709,105
(7) Liquor laws 633,654
(8) Violent crime 597,447 (including murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery[16], aggravated assault[10].
(9) Drunkenness 589,402
(10) Aggravated assault 433,945 [8]
(11) Burglary 303,853 [3]
(12) Vandalism 291,575
(13) Fraud 252,873
(14) Weapons violations (carrying or possession) 188,891
(15) Curfew and loitering 143,002
(16) Robbery 126,715 [8]
(17) Offenses against family and children 122,812
(18) Stolen property (buying, receiving, possession) 122,061
(19) Motor vehicle theft 118,231 [3]
(20) Forgery and counterfeiting 103,448
Isn't this the argument of a great deal of antis? Why do you need a gun, just learn martial arts?There ARE other means besides a gun
There ARE other means besides a gun
Isn't this the argument of a great deal of antis? Why do you need a gun, just learn martial arts?
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There ARE other means besides a gun
Isn't this the argument of a great deal of antis? Why do you need a gun, just learn martial arts?
No, it means there ARE alternatives to using a gun for self-defense, many of which can be just as lethal and not requiring Bruce Lee capabilities
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Nonetheless, statements of fact or statements of opinion should be supported with evidence. Statements purporting to be fact, or statements of opinion, without support really aren't worth much.
With that said I believe most statements on the internet forums aren't worth much.
Yea, yea, yea. Let's all stand up for the felons, and spouse abusers, and drunk drivers, and child molesters, and drug dealers, and all the other flotsam and jetsam of the world -- as if they are going to stand up for us. This continual repetition of clever paraphrases of Pastor Martin Niemöller's original 1946 comments describing what had happened in Germany has become a tiresome cliche. It doesn't always mean something, and it doesn't always apply.Officers'Wife said:First they came for felons, since I did not like felons I applauded....
In which States? And cite the statutes please.SuperNaut said:Remember that case of wine you brought home from your last trip to wine country? In many states, you have committed a felony - scumbag.
fiddletown said:In which States? And cite the statutes please.
Cite the statutes. It's your claim and your burden to support it.SuperNaut said:Florida, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Tennessee and Utah.
That's fine. I just will not accept your claim.SuperNaut said:fiddletown, this is a discussion board, not a formal debate board. I don't have the time or the desire to cite statutes, take it or leave it.
Uh-oh.fiddletown said:That's fine. I just will not accept your claim.