Friend with gun in bank

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I agree with those who have said he should have just continued his business calmly, regardless of that particular bank's gun policies. I don't even want to touch the 'leaving it in the wheel or on the tire' with a ten-foot-pole, but I guess I'll just say that I think that was a terrible idea, and he was lucky to find it still there waiting for him.

Now I must report my observation that the OP did not specify that the car was actually locked :neener: I'm assuming it was, BUT this story could only get sillier if it turned out the car was unlocked the whole time . Please excuse me while I laugh my butt off for a few moments at that thought. ........Ok...phew... If that had been the case, I happen to think it would still be better to have just kept it on his person than putting it in the unattended vehicle.

I think it would be good for your buddy if you show him this thread, and this wonderful forum for that matter.
 
In my state it is perfectly legal to CCW in a bank. Bad idea to leave a gun stashed on the tire. Please don't do that again.
 
Samari Jack said:
I had a friend tell me a story that I felt might be timely to relaying on to others given the current crop of new model of mouse guns available.

Seems my friend had a Kahr .380 lose in the pocket of his baggy safari pants pocket. It is so small and comfortable, he picks it up with his car keys in the morning and into a pocket it goes (has a CCW permit). He told me it is really hard, if in a hurry to remember to leave it in his car in certain forbidden places.

On this occasion, he had to meet with the bank manager in her office to sign some papers and redo a checking account. When it came time to get an older check card out of his wallet, there was a big OPPS moment. Told her blah-blah, had to go to his car to get his check card. In the rush to get out of the bank with said .380, he left his car keys on the bank managers desk. Here he was, gun in pocket, with no car keys in the parking lot of the bank. He wasn't about to go back in the bank with the gun in his pocket. Also was a big concern of a camera possible mounted outside somewhere. Another problem was that he parked right in front of the door.

Stood there dumb struck, trying to figure out what the heck to do. Finally did a "is that a nail sticking in my right rear tire" look? Bending over and felt the tire up and down while slyly depositing the gun on top of the tire. Went back inside, got his keys, and went back out, checking that tire really well again, and put said .380 under the rear floor mat.

Seems he got away with it but scared the be-Jesus out of him.
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If the account is really large there isn't really a problem at all.
 
Tomcat47 said:
Panic....! Panic.....! Panic....again! :uhoh:

Put firearm in non -secure location and walk away from it! :eek:

.....recap....!
* ccw permit holder :cool:
* carries firearm loose in pocket :uhoh:
* carries firearm unknowingly in a Bank :uhoh:
* panics...! :uhoh:
* makes up story to leave bank :eek:
* forgets keys :uhoh:
* panics again...! :uhoh:
* car is locked :banghead:
* panics again...! :uhoh:
* paranoia sets in (cameras) :eek:
* makes up story to hide firearm in UNSECURED location! :eek:
* walks away from said firearm :mad: (unacceptable!)

Where?....I say again where? Did he get his CCW Permit! :scrutiny:

Besides..if he was going to car to get something and secure his firearm...why not just calmly walk back to banker and say OH! need my keys...back in a sec!
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It would be very interesting event if he forgot about the piece and went through metal detector at say federal building or an airport. This is commonly referred to as "cuffable and processable event". I suspect it would be more entertaining then your average episode of Jerry Springer.
 
Here in VA places like banks can say "no firearms allowed" but it has no force of law,
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My bank knows I carry and also knows if they make an issue of it my extended family and I can move a ton of personal and business money accross the street.

Once that was established no more silly talk.
 
smalls said:
He left his gun unattended on his tire, instead of (presumably) legally carrying into a bank?
:what:

Say it is illegal. What's the worst that could happen? He needs it and it saves his life. Best case? It stays in his pocket and no one is the wiser.
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My thoughts exactly. What if a small child walking by saw it? BTW, it's called a concealed weapon for a reason! :rolleyes:

LD
 
I am just a little amazed that he forgot he was carrying. Mindset. Any fight I get into is a gun fight.

How the heck do you forget you have a gun on you?

Besides, how the heck do you get it out of your shoot me first pants pocket if you need it anyway?

Geeze... Sorry man but your friend needs to be on THR more than you do!! He also needs to read/take the NRA self defense in the home/out of the home and the Gravest of Extremes if he is going to be carrying a gun for protection and is not even aware enough to remember he has it, and where on his body it is.
 
There have been two deaths and one very severe injury here in Washington by children who 'found' an adult's handgun this month. One young boy will have to live with the knowledge he shot and killed his sister.

Leaving a loaded gun unattended is beyond stupid; to the level he shouldn't own a gun.
 
I'll relate a story first before giving my take. I have a friend who is my barber. He was recently shot by someone like your friend that came in for a haircut. The Einstein that shot my friend did not have a holster but had the gun in his pocket just like your friend. When he reached in his pocket and pulled whatever he needed out the gun fell to the floor and discharged striking my friend. My friend is OK but will live with the bullet in him for the rest of his life because of some idiot with a CCW that doesn't even own a holster for their gun. If you're going to carry at least have something to secure the weapon.

Your friend is an idiot and probably shouldn't own a gun. Tell him next time it happens that he can go to the counter, hand it to a teller and they will hold it for him till he's done. You may as well set him up for a good laugh.
 
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Panic....! Panic.....! Panic....again!

Put firearm in non -secure location and walk away from it!

.....recap....!
* ccw permit holder
* carries firearm loose in pocket
* carries firearm unknowingly in a Bank
* panics...!
* makes up story to leave bank
* forgets keys
* panics again...!
* car is locked
* panics again...!
* paranoia sets in (cameras)
* makes up story to hide firearm in UNSECURED location!
* walks away from said firearm (unacceptable!)

Where?....I say again where? Did he get his CCW Permit!

Besides..if he was going to car to get something and secure his firearm...why not just calmly walk back to banker and say OH! need my keys...back in a sec!
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This pretty much sums it up.
 
A lot of rookie mistakes & panic there, but I appreciate you sharing your friend's story. Better to briefly conntinue carrying illegally for a few minutes and get away with it than to place others at risk to comply with a rule that nobody but the man himself knew he was breaking.
 
This incident took place in NC. Banks and at the US Post Office, if I recall correctly are no-nos. As I recall, he doesn't carry keys or wallet or anything else in the gun pocket. I agree though, it is best to have a weapon in an in-the-pocket type holster if kept in a pocket. Some are made of soft leather with a leather tab on the corner that catches the inside of the pocket allowing the gun to be withdrawn leaving the holster in the pocket. This type holster keeps pocket lint and dirt out of the mechanism plus hides the outline.

As of Dec.!st in N.C. it has been legal to carry in banks unless posted. I asked my credit union to remove their sign.
 
In addition to all the things your friend did wrong that have already been mentioned, how about his failure to have an extra car key tucked away somewhere?

Statistically speaking, which is more likely on any given day? Needing your gun or needing your spare key?

Even when I rent a car, the first thing I do is ask for an extra key or stop and have one made, and then tuck it away on my person. It's just a little bit of insurance, just like my EDC and spare mags.
 
IMO he should have settled his nerves and went back in and took care of his business. He needs to remember he is one of the good guys just doing his what he has a right to do.
 
Wow... the only way he could have handled that any worse is if he walked in and robbed the bank.

As mentioned, NC law currently allows carry in banks, as most states do. I carry in the bank in SC on a semi-regular basis.

So he basically completely loses a rational train of thought over doing something that is not even illegal in the first place, and sticks a gun out in plain view and walks away.

This is no joke... guy should not be carrying, for his own safety and that of everyone around him.
 
There's nothing wrong with pocket carry if you use your pocket exclusively as a holster and have a proper holder IN the pocket. That means no mixing car keys in there. There are some excellent pocket holsters around, and they work particularly well with small revolvers and semis. Draw is effortless and natural, with the wintertime advantage of not having to risk snagging on jackets and layers of fleece.

He wasn't about to go back in the bank with the gun in his pocket.
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Why not? I wouldn't dream of going into a bank WITHOUT a firearm on me. People get robbed in banks all the time.
 
ny32182 said:
This is no joke... guy should not be carrying, for his own safety and that of everyone around him.
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You said it nicer then I did, but that is the bottom line. He's going to get someone hurt.
 
In my opinion carrying a gun, unholstered, in ones pocket is just asking for trouble. There was an incident at the mall in Silverdale WA a few weeks ago when a gentleman and his wife were about to pay for some perfume. He reached into his back pocket to get his wallet. All of a sudden there was a loud boom as the gun that was in his pocket, along with his wallet, went off. Opps! The bullet hit the floor and splattered some of the merchandise with fragments. The gent then quickly paid up and beat a hasty retreat out the door. The police apprehended him out in the parking lot. In the comment section of the Bremerton Sun, people were speculating as to how this accident could have happened and expressing all sorts of dismay, none of which could be confused as flattering to gun owners.
 
Sounds like your friend made a dumb decision even dumber. If it's illegal for him to carry in the bank, it was dumb to forget he had a gun. If it was illegal to carry in the bank and he did anyway, it was even dumber to panic, and dumber yet to just leave his gun lying out in the open.

In my state that latter part could actually be a crime. Of course, in my state, taking a gun into a bank isn't a crime, so there you go...

He should have just left it in his pocket (WITH A HOLSTER) and said nothing about it.
 
MICHAEL T - "Your friend a idiot. In need some proper training . If he panics like this over nothing. I question how he would act if really needed the pistol."
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I couldn't help but laugh at this post. It sounds the crocodiles from my favorite comic, Pearls Before Swine. Ironic...

The OP's friend needs some education. I don't think name calling and yelling for the guy to have his guns taken away and his CCW revoked are productive responses. Yes, he panicked and did something dumb. Nothing bad happened and if he learns from it then all will be well! :)
 
Try to reassure him that the best course of action is to just push through. It's not like his bank manager was going to use a Garrett on him before letting him sign some documents.
 
Tomcat47 said:
Panic....! Panic.....! Panic....again! :uhoh:

Put firearm in non -secure location and walk away from it! :eek:

.....recap....!
* ccw permit holder :cool:
* carries firearm loose in pocket :uhoh:
* carries firearm unknowingly in a Bank :uhoh:
* panics...! :uhoh:
* makes up story to leave bank :eek:
* forgets keys :uhoh:
* panics again...! :uhoh:
* car is locked :banghead:
* panics again...! :uhoh:
* paranoia sets in (cameras) :eek:
* makes up story to hide firearm in UNSECURED location! :eek:
* walks away from said firearm :mad: (unacceptable!)

Where?....I say again where? Did he get his CCW Permit! :scrutiny:

Besides..if he was going to car to get something and secure his firearm...why not just calmly walk back to banker and say OH! need my keys...back in a sec!
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This gave me a really good laugh!
I inadvertently walked into the post office one day. I thought, oh crap! Continued my buisiness and left.
 
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