Frito Lay features anti-gunner on bags.

[RustyShackelford]

corn chips/Jay Leno

I saw a Jay Leno bit about how the company plans to put fewer corn chips in the bags, , due to higher costs for corn.

I do not eat chips often. It seems like a waste and a rip off. I buy them when it's cheap or buy 1 get 1 free but the stores do that less and less now...

Rusty

 

[Matt King]

Wow. . . have some sympathy for the guy. He went through something very traumatic and tried to help (in his opinion) so that others wouldn't have to go through what he went through. I disagree w/ his reasoning but this guy doesn't sound like he is maliciously trying to undermine ppl's rights. Just sounds mis-informed and trying to help.

 

[romeo212000]

That may be but the road to Hell is paved with good intentions and the fact is he is lobbying for the removal of civil liberties and his actions will result in more of the violence he witnessed.

 

[Matt King]

Yeah but try to look at it from his opinion.
Unreasonable but I can totally see where he's coming from.

Have some sympathy.

 

[romeo212000]

My issue is not with him. It is with the orgqanization who gave him the award, and the companies that sponsored it. Frito Lay is one of those companies.

 

[Matt King]

Point taken.
I was talking about posts like this originally.

To me, he's no different from someone who was beaten up by some black kids in school once, so he joined a lynch mob and killed as many people as he could. Traumatized, "did something about it". Why is this inherently a good thing?

 

[romeo212000]

I just dont think this can be considered on the same level of "community service" that the other recipients of the awards participated in.

 

[Matt King]

Well, yeah im thinking shouldn't these be non-political?

 

[romeo212000]

Exactly, and that is the sentiment I communicated to the lady at the company.

 

[Picard]

I'm sending them a letter. Thanks for the heads up. Everyone needs to do their part to end this nonsense.

 

[bogie]

Don't bother doing anything. It won't matter. I know this because I've been told this, repeatedly. We can't do anything to change public opinion. It's all useless.

Just make sure you wipe the crap off your hands before you touch your firearms.

 

[SSN Vet]

only in a mixed up country like the U.S. can the act of lobbying the government (a.k.a. whining to get some one else to act) be misconstrued as the positive act of "doing something constructive".

if gang violence was such a problem, he should have gone out and rounded up gang bangers.....that would be "doing something".

 

[romeo212000]

Shouldnt he be working to keep kids out of gangs.

 

[Gator]

Bummer, I liked Doritos too. Oh well, got a letter to Frito-Lay ready to go into the mail tomorrow.

 

[romeo212000]

Might give them a call too.

 

[Pilgrim]

E-mail Pepsi at http://cr.pepsi.com/usen/pepsiusen.cfm?or

Pilgrim

 

[shc1]

At age ten, Theo witnessed the kind of gun violence a boy his age wouldn’t be allowed to watch on TV.


Uhhh… where?!?

Put on your boots, it’s getting deeper…

 

[rbernie]

The PepsiCo divisions are semi-autonomous, each with their own ad budget, ad campaigns, and individual P&L responsibilities. Do NOT call or email PepsiCo, Pepsi, PBG, Tropicana, or Quaker Oats; your message will get irrevocably lost.

Contact FritoLay directly at the contact info I posted above.

Trust me on this.

 

[Gator]

e-mail sent too......even if it doesn't do any good.

 

[Pilgrim]

Both Pepsi and Frito Lay are sponsors of http://www.dosomething.org .

 

[TexasSkyhawk]

FritoLay (PepsiCo) and other very marketing-driven CPG (consumer packaged goods) manufacturers are VERY sensitive to corporate pressure from consumers. VERY sensitive. Seriously sensitive. They live off of positive marketing messages, and run from controversy like cockroaches from a light.

I was a managing director on the Pepsi and Frito-Lay accounts at their advertising agency. I can assure you that both Pepsi and Frito-Lay will make changes if enough people raise hell.

In both of those categories, market share is measured in points. Pepsi is constantly number two behind Coca-Cola. Frito-Lay has no peer. There are other players in the category, but no serious competition.

Frito-Lay's biggest concern is shrinking sales because their products are basically unhealthy--and the Nutrition Nazis have been targeting them for the past few years.

So, Frito is already losing business--steadily--every year.

If they fear losing between two and four million more households (NRA's membership), they will have a major collective bowel movement--as will Pepsi.

Let 'em know how you feel, and then BACK IT UP. One thing I saw time and time again in the adertising/marketing world was "hollow threats" from consumer groups and activists.

But when they followed through, it damn sure got our attention.

And by the way, I do not have an ounce of sympathy for the little pissant who won the award and is on the Doritos bag.

Jeff

 

[Picard]

Don't bother doing anything. It won't matter. I know this because I've been told this, repeatedly. We can't do anything to change public opinion. It's all useless.

Just make sure you wipe the crap off your hands before you touch your firearms.

That's a poor attitude for an activist. If one person writes a letter, it doesn't matter. But if we get 100 or 1000 people writing, it most certainly will matter. I try to never think the way that you do. We all need to do our part, each contributing a little bit. It adds up a lot.

Public opinion is not something that is easily changed but it does change nonetheless. Think, if every gun owner taught two people a year to shoot guns and they taught two others, how quickly would public opinion change? Activism relies on multiplicity and everyone doing their part.

Think, despite growing up in an extremely liberal atmosphere (Chicago) myself and others were able to end up here supporting rights that are shunned by almost everyone in society. There is always hope, unless you freely deny it.

 

[Matt King]

Picard:

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

 

[bogie]

Picard, it doesn't matter. I've been told so by pretty much 50% of the folks in the legal forum. Being apathetic is easy. I'm going to try it a while.

But when they followed through, it damn sure got our attention.

Gun people seem to talk a lot, but they don't follow through for beans. At least they haven't for the past 10 years or so. Maybe a few will re-learn how.

You know, telling people that they can't do something is REALLY easy. Telling them how to do things is hard.

Easy?

Hard?

Easy's a lot more fun.

Go gitcherself 'nother beer, and crack open that bag of Nacho Doritos you've been watchin... There's probably American Idol or one of Michael Moore's insightful documentaries somewhere on cable...

 

[rocinante]

Not to burst anyone's bubble, but in this day and age a company like Pepsico is not going to feel the boycott of a few gunnies one iota.

I don't know about that. We definitely have the attention of the political class and we know who feed them. I find it absurd to see Hillary busting Obama's chops over his gun rights position but in a way that is acknowledgment we humble gunnies matter. We have more mind share and momentum than some of us think.