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Gamo Whisper help

Discussion in 'Air Guns' started by Bullseye, Dec 26, 2016.

  1. LoonWulf

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    bordem, and ocd do great things to rifle stocks......least thats been my experience. Lately i havent been bored enough all my project come out okish...
     
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  2. cobalt327

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    Thanks. I got some Minwax Special Walnut stain but after doing a trial piece I found I didn't care for it as much as I had hoped. I might try the Dark. They also have a 'Gunstock' that looks interesting- it's very close to my Winchester 61. But after seeing how nice the blond looks... [​IMG]

    Minwax® Wood Finish™
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  3. Bullseye
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    Wow nice chart. I got mine off the basement shelf and it has been around at least 20 or 30 years.
    I used to do a lot of furniture restoration. Not that this is any indication of course but I used to like working stain and oils into my furniture projects to make it look naturally aged.
    All I did with this stock was hide the lighter spots where I smoothed out some sanded gouges.
    Have fun. I had a fella that used to always tell me that preparation is 9/10th of the finished job.
    He always said. " What you see is what you get" when it comes to sanding.
    His work was exceptionally good. All it takes is patience.
     
  4. cobalt327

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    I'll probably break down and use some of my (now discontinued) Carver Tripp Danish Finish in American Walnut. Just love this stuff- applies well and has a very nice walnut tone. I have at least half a bottle left but when it's gone, it's GONE! lol

    Below is a rather poor before and after photo of a Winchester Model 67 stock I did for a good friend, using the Tripp finish. Ordinarily I wouldn’t have recommended refinishing, but in this case it’s my opinion that the value wasn’t negatively affected considering the condition it was already in.

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  5. Bullseye
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    Nice job! :thumbup:
     
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  6. Mauser lover

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    Hey, you don't happen to have a kill yet, do you? :evil:

    Or a ten yard benched group, that would be cool too.
     
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    Not yet, but I did get my pellets in the mail. I will use my lead sled and see what's happening next time out.
     
  8. Bullseye
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    This Daisy 853 is a hole cutter at 7 and 15 yd targets. The problem was the Gamo pellets.
    I'll have to give these a try in the Gamo whisper and see if they make it worth dealing with.
    My shooting buddy did just as well with it. Liked it so much, when we got back from the range I had to email him the FAX-in form since I don't have a printer. He had to have one too!
    Sorry no pictures but I was hitting those stick on target hole stickers with ease just resting on a moving blanket over a backboard on a pistol shooting table.
    Both the Umarex Meisterkugeln Pellets, .177, Competition 8.2gr and
    the 7.9 gr Crosman Premier Super point Hunting Pellet were the solution. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

    Next squirrel comes around here is dog meat. :evil:
    What a beautiful day at the range! Lots of free pick-up brass too.
    I also took along the Glock 43 and Rossi .357 and my .223 Handi Rifle.
    It was loving 40 gr Hornady flex tips and 27.1 gr Benchmark.
    I have a groundhog killer with that thing.
     
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  9. cobalt327

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    That would zip a 40 gr pill pretty good!
     
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    Sounds good!

    My GAMO didn't like the GAMO pellets any better than any other gun liked them... Which brings up the question... Why does GAMO sell those pellets? It would seem that their customers would be happier after they purchased a rifle if it got decent groups...
     
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    Yeah it's like Gamo shoots themselves in the foot. Very bad advertising for their own products.
    I was convinced that the Gamo Whisper was junk. Now it would be nice if it turns out to be a half decent pellet rifle after all.
    Maybe I am going to do a lot better with the whisper now using these "new" to me pellets.
     
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    Excellent results all the way around lol. That 853 sounds like a blast!

    That gamo maybe fine with the correct pellets, worse thing about them was always the trigger. Beyond that they usually shoot pretty good.

    Otlr atleas good ish
     
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  13. cobalt327

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    Some TUNING goes a long way towards making it into a shooter.
     
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    Pellet report for both at 14 yds or about 42 feet.
    Shot about 100 shots in all.
    Yes, I could go get my camera and take pictures but words will have to do.
    I am also writing this so I remember what worked out.
    Just got in and had a good morning in the backyard.

    The Gamo Whisper is sighted in.
    With Umarex Meisterkugeln Pellets, .177, Competition 8.2gr
    I got dime to nickel size groups off a Caldwell bag sitting at the picnic table.
    When I held the rifle down into the bag ( which was all the way back to the trigger ) and steady with my left hand just ahead of the receiver groups were even tighter but I still got good groups without doing this. Had to fiddle with the scope but I left it just a 1/4 inch lower that POI to compensate for longer shots and drop.
    Right on the moola! These pellets have a flat front and hollow base. Hourglass shape.

    With the 7.9 gr Crosman Premier Super point Hunting Pellet
    I was surprised that they spread out and were inconsistent in the Gamo. Once in about 5 would fly off from the group.
    I thought they would do better. These seemed to chamber kind of loose too, like they might be slightly smaller?
    I actually shot better groups with the 7.8 gr Gamo Red Fire pellets but my groups were Quarter size with an occasional flier.

    I had some of these .177 Gamo gold Raptor domed hollow base. Not sure of the weight, think it's 5.4 gr but they are quite light and fast. When I shot one of these I was startled.
    It sounded almost like a .22 rifle. The best I could get with these in a group was about half dollar size and even wider with another group.
    Not good .

    I can give my buddy back his Gamo Whisper pellet gun and I have thrown in a couple hundred Umarex Meisterkugeln Pellets, .177, Competition 8.2gr because THAT"S WHAT IT LIKES!

    Now for The DAISY 853
    It likes 7.9 gr Crosman Premier Super point Hunting Pellets the best.
    I have a peep sight for cripes sake and I was making dime size groups. I think I could even do better if I practiced and got serious.
    This thing lacks the power but it is a hole cutter.
    Next it liked the Umarex Meisterkugeln Pellets, .177, Competition 8.2gr with less than nickel sized groups. I'm am sure it is a second place finish. Odd how with the Gamo, it was the other way around.

    The 7.8 gr Gamo Red Fire pellets shot about the same and the worst again was the .177 Gamo gold Raptor domed hollow base.
    They did not "crack" like a .22 in the 853. This probably has to do with velocity, who knows but they did better than they did in the Gamo with an inch and a half spread.
    They were expensive and I cannot recommend these in any way for either of these rifles.

    So there you have it. I am sure with other brand pellets and weights I could find something better but for my study, I think I will conclude with these results.
     
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    Good job- your buddy owes you a beer!! I'm glad you were able to help him out, because without your work his gun was basically useless. The crack from the lightweight pellets is probably them going supersonic. And that may contribute to their less-than-stellar accuracy.
     
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    Thats actually much more inline with my experience with these pellets, than your 853 loving them. Good to know tho, that some guns DO like them, as I had pretty well quit trying them. Ill have to try them again, with new guns (or new barrels) specially since i have a tin in both .22 and .177

    The crack from the goldens, was probably them breaking the sound barrier, also helps explain why they shoot so poorly and usually get worse down range. I think those are best when trying to eek a little more velocity out of the lower power airguns, unfortunately they also dont usually shoot very well.
     
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    Ahhhh very interesting! Sound barrier sonic boom! I appreciate all the banging of heads together on this.
    For posterity, we have a post that may help someone down the road with these two chipmunk terminators.
    A dead squirrel post will be forthcoming,
    maybe a crow,
    and if these woodpeckers don't stop chewing my shed to shreds,
    they will be on my hit list too.

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    Not Woody!!!!!!
     
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    Yippie!!!!

    I showed it to my wife, and she said that she is so happy for you! She may have been slightly sarcastic... but I'm happy for you anyway!

    Just a question about why it didn't twitch... Did you hit it in the noggin or what?
     
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    Saaaaaaad chipmunk.....
     
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    Daisy looks cool, enjoy!

    For the purposes of posterity, the Gamo Whisper is as accurate as any Nitro-Piston rifle. As pointed out above, hold is critical to accuracy, and it usually means a hand hold, even when braced on something. Pellets are critical as well. Mine will not shoot the plastic pellets at all. Horrendous patterns. Heavy lead pellets are better, but premium copper coated Beeman Kodiak heavies (10.19 grs) are very accurate in mine.
     
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    I don't know where he's hit. I haven't gone out to pick it up. ( my wife does that for me anyway )
    Rangefinder says it was a 12 yd shot from the man cave window.
    I'm almost ROFL. :rofl:
    These things are destructive. My wife kills em with a 5 gal bucket of water and some kind of plank they fall off of and drown trying to get some peanut butter.
    We got at least 20 that way last year. This is both more fun and more humane I suppose.

    When it comes to messing with my house and shed and shrubbery ... humane ( and pellets ) go out the window.
     
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    Agreed, ive got my qb stuck out the window pretty much 24/7 cause of the damn rats and pigeons eating my chicken food.
     
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    Near as I can figger... they aren't human, so it is by definition impossible to treat them humanely! If it isn't human, you can't treat it as one. (and if you want a theological discussion as to why that is the case, PM me, because that's always fun)

    I've tried the bucket of water and peanut butter thing with mice. I couldn't get any that way, probably because I was only using the bucket in conjunction with the normal "Victor" type mousetraps. Got plenty with those ones, just never the buckets.

    I grew up on an almond orchard, so anything that ate the nuts was despised. We couldn't always take the most effective actions against some of the vermin (like the deer of all creatures, and yes they do climb trees!) due to tag limits and the like, but we did what we could with the rodents. I still despise them!
     
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