Gangbangers in gun stores?

[V4Vendetta]

"BTW without parental consent you can't get a tatoo until you are 18."

Just like I can't get ciggarettes or beer until I'm older? I could get any of those things if I wanted, I just don't want them. Legality has nothing to do with it.

 

[Phaetos]

This thread is still alive?

 

[Taurus 66]

Whats up with all this gangbanger stuff?! Hey! Where ever did they days go when gangs could battle without guns or knives??

Does anyone remember?

http://hellserv.serveftp.com/straightup/Video/oldschoolvideoes/bboying/beatstreet_battle.wmv

 

[thorn726]

uh, yeah a LOT of people would jump up and down receiveing their bushmaster, but the gangbanger type actions- it is a bit frightening, living in an area full of these idiots.
knowing too many of these types-

YES they are dumb enough, before getting felonies to buy legit guns.
couple reasons- first off, you dont have to worry about doing years over being caught with it, or if there is a body behind it.

second- they are so stupid they dont think they will ever be caught.

some of the buys described worry me,. i am the guy who could end up at the wrong end of one of these gangbangers pistols. if i saw what looked like a straw purchase, i would have to say something.

i tihkn 25 yr old dude who knows about guns makes the best point, the way to hopefully be a little more assured of purchaser- if guy looks. acts totally ganger, hit him up for some info.

while i know many gangster idiots i would be totally afriad of if they were armed, i also have a friend who looks very scary, has tats, hangs out with hip hop people- but is a totally responsible gun owner.

there are definitely actions people take that indicate how they are...
i dont think it is out of line to make some judgement by how someone is acting around a gun purchase

 

[luzyfuerza]

Reminds me of something G. Gordon Liddy said once. He regularly talked about guns on his radio program, and someone called in once to remind him that as a Watergate plumber and a convicted felon, he couldn't own guns. Liddy said that this was true, but that Mrs. Liddy didn't suffer from the same restrictions.

We need more gun people with squeeky clean records, and fewer gun people like the G-man, in my opinion.

 

[jiwilliams]

Hey Can I Get a Barrel for my Glock

Well... I was in a local Houston gun store yesterday when a couple of guys came in asking if they could buy a barrel for their Glock. The guy behind the counter said.. sure they make them but why? Did you damage your barrel? The guys were just like um.. "no, we just wanted to know if we could buy a new barrel"

Tell me they hadn't just watched "CSI - Your Town" and decided they needed to ditch the ballistic trail on their Glock.

 

[Werewolf]

Reminds me of something G. Gordon Liddy said once. He regularly talked about guns on his radio program, and someone called in once to remind him that as a Watergate plumber and a convicted felon, he couldn't own guns. Liddy said that this was true, but that Mrs. Liddy didn't suffer from the same restrictions.

We need more gun people with squeeky clean records, and fewer gun people like the G-man, in my opinion.

I guess where Mr. Liddy lives they don't have access laws. In OK if a convicted felon lives with you you better lock them guns up. If you leave them laying around where the felon has access to them the law states you are commiting a felony. Makes sense to me.

I suspect it's that way where G Gordon lives too and that he was just shooting his mouth off as is normal for him.

 

[JMusic]

I haven't read all the comments here but will voice my opinion. Do not stereotype!!! We as firearms owners should stick together no matter of race, dress, age, or gender. I see some of that here. The fact that an individual is at a legitimate place of purchase is enough for me to allow them into the brotherhood. IT IS TOO EASY TO BUY GUNS ON THE STREET WITHOUT THE CHECKS AND WHAT HAVE YOU FOR CRIMINALS TO HAVE TO PURCHASE AT A GUN STORE! MY two cents.
Jim

 

[Lazrah]

Stereotype

people probably look at me weird when I go in to Buy a 50 pack of .45 ACPs at the local sportsmans warehouse. my web site http://www.alumnistudios.com Im the black guy in the picture, and im not a "gang banger" or thug or whatever. I married, own a house and pay taxes like everyone else

 

[carebear]

Reminds me of something G. Gordon Liddy said once. He regularly talked about guns on his radio program, and someone called in once to remind him that as a Watergate plumber and a convicted felon, he couldn't own guns. Liddy said that this was true, but that Mrs. Liddy didn't suffer from the same restrictions.

We need more gun people with squeeky clean records, and fewer gun people like the G-man, in my opinion.

Why? Do you believe Liddy is a risk to commit a violent crime with a gun? If not, why shouldn't he have one?

 

[carlkolchak]

Gangbangers in gun stores? yes

Hey everyone, new member here.

Was wondering your thoughts on this:

I visit gunshops here in Denver pretty often, and about 1/4 of the time, I'll see someone there who *really* looks like he's, shall we say, looking for a gun for other reasons then plinking at the range.

Do you experience this as well? I have seen shop owners display all manners of responses to these guys who want to buy 3 Glocks, then call someone on a cell phone to come fill out the form, then call someone else on the cell phone to come bring the cash down to the store.

Just kinda wondering what you guys think of this phenomon and if you have any interesting stories...

Sounds like people are the same no matter where you go (I am in mid-West btw)

My local shop is down in the north part of town, in a not so good area. In fact, unless you already own & gun and have your permit to carry, you probably shouldn't be there. But it is the place with the greatest selection and price in this part of the state, if not the entire state!

And yes, every time I am in the store...there they are with their 'ho's and oversized football coats, hightops, cell-phones and bling making a purchase on stuff (and quantity) that I could never afford! And when they talk about guns it is quite clear their education on the topic comes from movies...gimme dat 9, oh yeah! you got 10 mida-meetuh?

Funny thing is, I never see these same guys at the local range .... hmmmm.

And I have given this some thought as well...my take (for what it is worth) is that they are just as entitled to the 2nd Amendment as the rest of us.

(except for their malfeasian friends they are buying them for).

But the ones who are felons-yet-to-be have the same rights as the rest of us "to keep and bare arms".

They know and we all know, these guys are buying their pieces for their gang-buddies, for crimes, assaults or to knock off one another over drugs, gambling or some percieved dis.
And they aren't shy about letting you know either, in fact they don't hide their intent at all really.

But, you gotta respect their honesty! At least they are up front about it...unlike Democrats who try to disguise their anti-gun SOCIALISM in the oh-so-nice-sounding "progressive" agenda.

It's like I always say, don't fear the man with the gun, fear the liberal with a cause.



ps
also, i am not generalizing, i grew up and went to school with the aforementioned and am related to a few as well...

 

[aaronrkelly]

Ehh all the gang bangers must already have guns in southern Iowa because I dont see any in the gun stores. Although I suspect I would fit the description. My actions would change your viewpoint but alot of people dont get that far.

I wear:

baggie pants (large pockets to fit surefire, benchmade, spare magazine, cell phone and pepper spray)

trendy rapper inspired clothing (man this stuff just fits great and wears forever, all the shirts have double stitched seems and I find it on sale ALOT)

tattoos (large visible one on my leg)

When Im working Im required to wear the nasty-ness that is green and tan with the pointy star - the uniform is not comfortable and when I get off work I want something that IS........I dont care if its thug clothes or not. Plus in the event of a stop and rob or car jacking might as well keep them guessing..

 

[fantacmet]

The gangbanger type has more to do then just dress. Yo man ho mo fu d ha gun? Ebonics, along with the dressdown, the funky chicken legged walked, etc. From all walks of life, mostly whites and blacks though but everyone does it. I resent the remark about anyone under 30 not at work dressing like that. I am under 30, and even if I am not at work I usually wear jeans or slacks or dockers, or cargo pants, and every last pair is around my wasit not around my knees. I wear my shirts tucked in, even t-shirts only exception being a short sleeved button down shirt open in the front over my tucked in T in order to conceal the handgun on my side. I walk like a person and not a bad imitiation of a (insert favorite animal joke here), I speak ENGLISH, and it's usually proper english, I don't speak ebonics, and nor do I understand half of it, when I hear it I say speak english or don't speak to me. I don't give a ???? what color you are the gangbangin stereotype can go anywhere and when you pack it all together it's usually true. There is a difference when someone is just dressing in what they think is a style(pants around their knees), and when they talk and walk. We are so worried about being PC now a days, we completely and intentionally ignore the demographics. Blacks commit certain types of crime more often then others, whites commit other types of crimes more often then others, same goes with each and every race, but our PC media mogul BS mind training has told us this is not so, they teach us to intentionally ignore whatever is not what they want to be popular opinion. Society doesn't for their own opinions hardly at all anymore, the media gives them their opinion. I have a degree I am a network engineer and administrator, my talents are many. Here is the kicker thats gonna get you all. I drive a big ass 4x4 on big ass mud tires, I wear a cowboy hat, I have a huge ass belt buckle on my belt and yes it was won from the rodeo(by a dearly departed friend I wear it in his honor because he asked me to before he died), and I have a big stereo that I blast country music from, everything from Shania Twain and LoneStar to Conway Twitty, to George Jones, Waylon Jennings and the like. Yes I am your worst nightmare, I am a redneck with an IQ. thats just it though, I am a REDNECK, niot some stupid ass inbred backhills hillbilly hick. Yes I can ride a horse, yes I live in the city but only b/c I have to at this time. So you can take your PC and whine about stereotyping and stick it well, yeah. Or you can open your eyes to the world around you and quick accepting the bits of pre-chewed crap forcefed us by the media about what our opinion is required to be in order to be a good person.

Rev. Michael

Pardon the rant but I felt it needed to be said. If you have issue with it please feel free to pm me, and we'll talk about it there in an adult fashion or we can go into a whipping frenzy and attack each other. However if you want to start a fight about it it ain't gonna happen open forum. Just to let ya know.

 

[pdowg881]

When I was buying a .22 a few weeks ago, the guy at the conuter kept lokking at my liscence then back at me several times, but he glared at me for a long time each time he did it. While he was doing this i was just looking at the racks, and I wasn't looking back at him, but out of the side of my vision I saw him doing this. The funny thing is HE made ME nervous. It was weird becuase It was just a local gunshop in my small rown, I'm a white kid, 18 normal sized clothes, none of that hip hop crap or anything, but the guy made me REALLY nervous. It was hard not to look all nervous because tjat would probably make me nervous. It's just ironic that I was nervous becuase of he he was acting, not the other way around.

 

[pdowg881]

BTW pardon my spelling, I tend to type fast before I forget what I wanted to say. And I'm too lazy to read it over or spell check it this late at night.

 

[simmonsguns]

I don't want to worry anyone but,the last time i had to call our local ATF about a gun problem it took 10 agents 3 weeks to decide that 1 person buying 20 handguns with cash,and openly telling me two weeks later that she was running a small business selling the guns for twice what she paid for them while trying to figure out while i was not going to sell her any more guns,was finally arrested after everyone agreed that this was illegal.With the statement she made to me.
At the time,even though i did not feel that selling the guns to her was a good thing,she passed the nic's check and it was out of my hands.
The owner was worried about getting sued for not selling to her with no reason other than race.
I don't have much trust in the atf.

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

This made me less quick to judge

When I lived in Alabama I was in a local gunshop and a real "gang banger" guy came in and was looking around. He had the baggy jeans, bandana, plaid jacket that was popular with gangs in the 90's, bling and the whole get up.

Quite by accident I ended up talking to him when he asked a question about a gun that I had experience with and the shop clerk had pretty much blown him off. He was looking for a good sized revolver that a woman could shoot. We talked for awhile about revolver choices (since as most of you know I love revolvers) and I asked "what is this for?" he stated that he had made some bad friends growing up poor in a bad part of Alabama and now he has a wife, child and his mother at home that he feared would be in danger when he worked nights if any of these people knew they were there alone and he wanted them to be able to defend themselves. He was trying to buy something to protect his wife, child and mother.

This was a real eye opener to me. I was raised in a VERY prejudiced home and had a hard time shaking that stuff as an adult. I was always taught if they were black, hispanic, or asian they were sub-human and always out to cut your throat. I had never thought that maybe some of these guys where just trying to survive in a bad enviroment and trying to protect their loved ones. Even though I like to think I have grown beyond all that bile I was taught I still find that sometimes I have to remind myself to think first then decide how I feel.

This did two things for me. It really made me think that there is a place for inexpensive guns in this world so that guys like this could afford to protect their families. Why should only those able to buy a nice Colt or Ruger or whatever have the right to defend their home and loved ones? Before I had been completely anti when it came to cheap guns. It also made me try to stop and think about where someone is coming from before judging them by my standards.

I know this in not the norm and that alot of gang bangers go in to buy guns to be "gangsters" and thugs. But we should be aware that every now and then that is not the case and try to hear the whole story.

 

[freakaccident]

I see this crap weekly. There is always a ghetto dude looking at a Desert Eagle at the shop I shoot at. It's depressing to know that gold tiger striped desert eagles sell better than Kimbers in my neighborhood. Spinning wheels make me almost as sick as gold DEs.

 

[Stiletto Null]

I wouldn't mind an 8" .44 DE...dunno what the hell I would do with it, though.

 

[velojym]

Yesterday, at the local Gander Mtn, two couples in their twenty-somethings stopped at the firearms counter. One of the guys was shopping for a pistol for his wife.
When the salesman began to show him the Taurus Milleniums, the guy laughed and told him that he wanted something really small, in case she shot herself in the foot. At about the same time, his wife was ogling the snubbies and going on about how 'cute that one is!'.
The dealer promptly backed off the sale and brought out the safety brochures, then explained to them that they should never arm themselves without some education. In a couple weeks, his club is hosting a women's day (guys are welcome, but get to play on another part of the range) and he recommended they try a few models out first before returning to make a purchase.
I applaud this.
As for stereotypes, my wife is black, and makes twice what I do. It helps that she has two Master's Degrees (I was a mere airplane mechanic before I got into my current field) and works way too much IMHO.
She has some interest in shooting now, and I hope she's treated fully as the responsible human being that she is, regardless of what folks think about her pigmentation. (she does dress well, however)

 

[>SHOCK<^>WAVE<]

Bobby Brown...(wanna be gangster & convicted habitual felon)

I was watching a horrible reality show on BETV , it was Bobby Brown's (wanna be gangster & convicted habitual criminal) reality show. The family was going camping and they needed gear well Bobby saw the guns and was already to buy some when a camera dude reminded him it was illegal so he had to settle for air soft.

 

[gitarmac]

If a person chooses to dress like a thug then they shouldn't have any problem being treated like one. If they don't like they way they are treated then it's easy enough to pull up your pants and act like a civilized human being. Be cool on your own time.

Quite frankly some of the posts in this thread smack of such politically correct niavity I had to check to see if I mistakenly went to the DU websight.

OMG, if someone is dressed like a gangbanger, looks at a gun, then stands back while someone else is purchasing it WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON!!! Would you act like this at a gun shop? Cause I sure as hell would not, I would expect quite rightfully that the owners of the shop would not sell me a gun.

What do y'all think those ladies in the fishnet stockings and high heels are doing walking down the street in the shady areas of town, or is it too judgemental to think some parts of town are shady?!?!

 

[Crosshair]

PlayboyPenguin

Good point. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. (In this case: "Look like you are doing as the Romans do.") I guess you could say that he was dressed in "urban camouflage".

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

Crosshair

Exactely. This guy lived in a poor part of town but was trying to work and support a family. if he had walked around in slacks and a polo shirt he would have brought hell down on his home daily. I was raised in a little coal mine town in WV for alot of my childhood. We were very poor and it was a very roughneck place to grow up. Anyone we percieved to be different or who we thought was "acting like they were better than us" was a doomed kid.

 

[Yuck Mouth]

OMG, if someone is dressed like a gangbanger, looks at a gun, then stands back while someone else is purchasing it WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON!!! Would you act like this at a gun shop? Cause I sure as hell would not, I would expect quite rightfully that the owners of the shop would not sell me a gun.

So if they came in wearing a suit and tie it would be OK?