perry1963
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How about grips instead of stocks for the things we put on the butt of our handguns, grip is a verb, an action, "he grips his wifes hand as he says his wedding vows", stocks are a noun, person, place or "thing".
"Gernade" and other terminology pet peeves
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Sergeant Sabre
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Even though "pistol" means any handgun, as the first flintlock handguns were called "pistols", I hate when this term is applied to revolvers.
Along the same lines, I also hate the term "gun". A 1911 isn't a gun. Neiter is a Remington 700 or an M-16. Those are pistols and rifles. A gun is a crew-served weapon. Like a M240G or a M155 howitzer. I know that in normal-person-speak "gun" is appropriate. It was just drummed in to my head so much in the Marines that it really irritates me now, though.
That usage of the word "gun" to mean a crew-served firearm or cannon is more widespread than one would think, also. I'll relate an anecdote: At the North Gate of Mosul Airport in April of 2003, a kid of maybe 12 years old fired a few rounds at Marine positions with an AK-47. He ran and was followed home where he was subdued. An interrogator, who I knew personally, conducted his interrogation along with a native Arabic-speaking interpreter. The question was asked "Where did you get the gun"? To which the kid replied "It's not a gun , it's a rifle "
See? Even the Iraqis know this...
Along the same lines, I also hate the term "gun". A 1911 isn't a gun. Neiter is a Remington 700 or an M-16. Those are pistols and rifles. A gun is a crew-served weapon. Like a M240G or a M155 howitzer. I know that in normal-person-speak "gun" is appropriate. It was just drummed in to my head so much in the Marines that it really irritates me now, though.
That usage of the word "gun" to mean a crew-served firearm or cannon is more widespread than one would think, also. I'll relate an anecdote: At the North Gate of Mosul Airport in April of 2003, a kid of maybe 12 years old fired a few rounds at Marine positions with an AK-47. He ran and was followed home where he was subdued. An interrogator, who I knew personally, conducted his interrogation along with a native Arabic-speaking interpreter. The question was asked "Where did you get the gun"? To which the kid replied "It's not a gun , it's a rifle "
See? Even the Iraqis know this...
Specifically, guns have low, flat trajectories; mortars have high, arcing trajectories; and howitzers are somewheres in between. At least that's the way I heard it.
If "gun" means only the type of heavy artillery, though, then what the heck is the proper term for a shotgun? Shotfirearm? Shotweapon? Multi-projectile smoothbore shoulder-fired smallarm?
Gordon Fink
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Sarge, you’re opening up a big ol’ semantical can of worms. 
Since my hand-[crew-served weapon] has a rifled barrel, is it a rifle? If so, then my bolt-action “rifle†is really a rifled what?
~G. Fink
Since my hand-[crew-served weapon] has a rifled barrel, is it a rifle? If so, then my bolt-action “rifle†is really a rifled what?
~G. Fink
brian roberts
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well.....
how's about: swing...swang...& swung...??
how's about: swing...swang...& swung...??
S Roper
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The meaning of gun is all in the context.
"Sights" and "sites" is another one. I think this one is partially due to the play on words with Gunsite in AZ. However, I also see people use "sight" for website.
"Sights" and "sites" is another one. I think this one is partially due to the play on words with Gunsite in AZ. However, I also see people use "sight" for website.
Gordon Fink
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Can you cite any good sites about sights?
~G. Fink
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Outbacker
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Everyone together now, "Uuuuuuuuughhhhhhhhhhhh!"
All-Around-Shooter
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Media Misuse:
Marines referred to as Soldiers.
Airmen Referred to as Soldiers.
Sailors and Soldiers referred to as Servicemen.
Combat wounded Marines,Soldiers,Sailors and Airmen referred to as injured.
Revolvers and pistols referred to as handguns.
Anything fired from a shotgun referred to as buckshot.
Shotguns referred to as rifles.
Rifles referred to as shotguns.
"point blank" "execution style" "armor piercing hollow points"
"junk guns" "assault rifles" "plastic guns" "cop killer bullets"
And so on...
Marines referred to as Soldiers.
Airmen Referred to as Soldiers.
Sailors and Soldiers referred to as Servicemen.
Combat wounded Marines,Soldiers,Sailors and Airmen referred to as injured.
Revolvers and pistols referred to as handguns.
Anything fired from a shotgun referred to as buckshot.
Shotguns referred to as rifles.
Rifles referred to as shotguns.
"point blank" "execution style" "armor piercing hollow points"
"junk guns" "assault rifles" "plastic guns" "cop killer bullets"
And so on...
We're getting out of the realm of proper usage and into the realm of preference/nonsense.
A gun is anything that fires a projectile. I understand Navy types say it refers to something big, like on a ship, but that's their problem, not anyone else's.
A handgun is anything that you hold in your hand to fire. Pistols and revolvers ARE handguns.
A gun is anything that fires a projectile. I understand Navy types say it refers to something big, like on a ship, but that's their problem, not anyone else's.
A handgun is anything that you hold in your hand to fire. Pistols and revolvers ARE handguns.
scout26
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"Jury of your Peers".
Only if your in Britain and titled. (This was to keep the peasants from convicting the Dukes, Barons, Earls, etc.)
Here in the US you are entitled to an "impartial jury" according to my seach of the internet for a copy of the US Constitution. (Which, by the way, is for sale on E-Bay :banghead:
:banghead: :banghead: )
Only if your in Britain and titled. (This was to keep the peasants from convicting the Dukes, Barons, Earls, etc.)
Here in the US you are entitled to an "impartial jury" according to my seach of the internet for a copy of the US Constitution. (Which, by the way, is for sale on E-Bay :banghead:
:banghead: :banghead: )WvaBill
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What's a little peerage among the Lords and Ladies of Ballistics?
Librarian
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I don't think this is an error by WS - but the complaint may be a little bit of a troll...
Juliet isn't asking where Romeo is - she wants to know why he has to be a member of the family that is enemy to hers.
But to forcibly drag this post onto gun things, I was rather impressed by the Luhrman Romeo + Giulieta and its use of 'Rapier' for the pistols the rowdies were carrying. The actual gun handling was no example to follow, but consistent with the story.
Juliet isn't asking where Romeo is - she wants to know why he has to be a member of the family that is enemy to hers.
But to forcibly drag this post onto gun things, I was rather impressed by the Luhrman Romeo + Giulieta and its use of 'Rapier' for the pistols the rowdies were carrying. The actual gun handling was no example to follow, but consistent with the story.
Ivy Mike
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I yell at the TV every time I hear President Bush say nuke-you-ler.
I am usually very careful to call weapons by the correct name (for example: rifle, handgun or sidearm, shotgun)
The thing that bothers me the most is the absolute lack of punctuation on some internet forums.
someone will make a post that looks like this complete with run on sentences and no punctuation of any sort as well as a lack of capital letters
It's like Hank Hill said "An F in English? Bobby, you speak English."
Folks who type so fast that they transpose letters but don't correct them.
*teh for the, fsat or fast, liek for like. I understand that we all make errors, but please fix them before broadcasting your stupidity over the internet.
I get even more upset when I correct someones grammar and they get mad and don't care. I guess thats where freedom of speech comes in.
I am usually very careful to call weapons by the correct name (for example: rifle, handgun or sidearm, shotgun)
The thing that bothers me the most is the absolute lack of punctuation on some internet forums.
someone will make a post that looks like this complete with run on sentences and no punctuation of any sort as well as a lack of capital letters
It's like Hank Hill said "An F in English? Bobby, you speak English."
Folks who type so fast that they transpose letters but don't correct them.
*teh for the, fsat or fast, liek for like. I understand that we all make errors, but please fix them before broadcasting your stupidity over the internet.
I get even more upset when I correct someones grammar and they get mad and don't care. I guess thats where freedom of speech comes in.
4RHeritage
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Flash
When I first joined the army, I almost got into a fist fight with the moronic corporal who was explaining the finer points of the FAL to me. He insisted that the flash eliminator was the flash "illuminator" :banghead:
Should have just called it a suppressor I guess
When I first joined the army, I almost got into a fist fight with the moronic corporal who was explaining the finer points of the FAL to me. He insisted that the flash eliminator was the flash "illuminator" :banghead:
Should have just called it a suppressor I guess
EghtySx
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I have people at work that have to go through orientation. I really hate it when they say they have to "orientate" or be "orientated". Just sounds so stupid to me for some reason. And the corect terms are orient and oriented.
Oh ya, that nookyuler thing kinda grates on the nerves too.
Oh ya, that nookyuler thing kinda grates on the nerves too.
Sean85746
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ALL of the above!
....with an all time favorite: "You don't 'posta do that"
....with an all time favorite: "You don't 'posta do that"
Captain Crunch
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Nobody has mentioned my favorites: "ordnance" and "ordinance".
My biggest pet peeve is people who think they are better than someone because their spelling and grammar is better. Kinda makes me feel too stupid to post sometimes and it is probably one of the reasons why we have more lurkers on THR right now than members (308 guests to 193 members). As long as I know what I'm trying to say and you understand what I am trying to say, what is the problem?
I kind of understand that y'all are trying to keep up an image that gunowners aren't a bunch of ignorant hicks, but when it gets to the point that someone feels stupid because of it, you've gone too far.
Sorry for the rant, I'm in a bad mood today.
I kind of understand that y'all are trying to keep up an image that gunowners aren't a bunch of ignorant hicks, but when it gets to the point that someone feels stupid because of it, you've gone too far.
Sorry for the rant, I'm in a bad mood today.
EghtySx
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I don't think anyone has a real problem with it as no one mentions it to someone when they do it. We all speak a common language so we can communicate. The more mastery you have of a language the better you can express thoughts and ideas. Someone who posseses such skill is easier to listen to and understand. That doesn't mean having a larger vocabulary, just knowing how to correctly use the vocabulary you do have.
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