Glock 19 choked

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I just got back from the range to ring out my new gen 3 19. I had a lot of failures to eject and I got hit by a bunch of brass in my face/forehead. I had 4 different brands of ammo and all choked badly. No limpwrister here. Poor showing for Glock perfection imho.

They will be hearing from me Monday.
 
Join the club. There seems to be a lot of us getting banged in the head with brass lately. It seems to be an extractor issue Glock hasn't chosen to address yet.
 
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Thats a sad darn thing. I've had approx. 20 or so Glocks, all Gen 3. I have 3 keepers that I know some have had several thousand rounds factory ammo. Not one failure have I ever experienced with any Glock. What in the heck were they thinking to change anything? The Glock 19 & 23 were the Michelangelo's and Davinchi of pistoldom. Sad, sad, sad and ignorant too. I was told by a Glock Armorer that Glocks patents had expired and they changed some things trying to be different. Don't know if thats true but something has apparently changed. Guess I'll keep the 3 I currently own.
 
My 3rd gen G19 has about 500 rounds through it so far, no problems. Maybe you just got a lemon. Then again, mine only has 500 rounds through it, so I guess I can't really say it's flawless until I get to the 1,000 mark. I don't know...
 
Years ago, I had one of the first Gen 2 G19s in town (I don't think there is a Gen 1 G19). It, too had extraction/ejection troubles and threw empties at my head.
They tinkered with it, replaced the extractor and ejector along with the dead tritium lamps, and told me to use good ammo like the WWB they checked it out with.
I promptly sold my "freshly factory serviced" G19 and moved on.

On the other hand, my Gen 1 G17 is trouble free. I think there is a lot to be said in favor of sticking to the base design rather than something they have had time to screw up.
 
Read this long thread about SGTDuffman's experience with a Gen 4 Glock 19 hitting him in the forehead with brass, and his back-and-forth with Glock over it.

In the end, Glock put a redesigned ejector in his pistol that solved the problem.
 
Poor ejection is generally caused by ammo that is too weak, a recoil spring that is too heavy or an ejector with the in correct geometry.

Call Glock and ask them to send you a new recoil spring assembly and ejector. That should solve your problems.
 
Seems to be a lot of issues with Gen 4 Glocks and some of the newer Gen 3, particularly G19s, if you browse through Glocktalk.

My Gen 3G 17 threw an empty brass at my forehead twice in about 400-500 rds of 115 gr plinking ammo. So I don't see this as an issue. It is fairly new (test fired in Aug 11).

Try calling Glocks & see if they can send you a replacement ejector, having to send gun to them is PITA.
 
New pistol, new magazines, 4 different brands of ammo. The hotter the ammo the worse the problem. I heard that later gen 3's had issues with the ejector part no. 336, but apparently Glock can't or won't install a correct ejector from another member's post? Will call them Monday and keep everyone advised.

I'm not having brass hit me in the head. If Glock won't make it right I'll just stick to my Browning.
 
I'm going to give Glock a chance to fix it or replace it with one that works. I'm not going to trade it until it's fixed. That would not be right.
 
The new ejector is the answer. Glock will pay for shipping both ways, they are replacing the old defective ejectors. I had the same issues as you, with my gen 3 G19 hitting me in the face with brass and having frequent stovepipes. I sent it to them with one of their FedEx prepaid labels and they sent it back a couple weeks later with a sheet saying it was now to factory spec.(BS)

It was ok for about 500 rounds or so and it all started happening again. So what I did was send it back to them with another FedEx prepaid label and I told them to keep it and give me a full refund, or replace it with a gen 4 G19 with the new ejector and RSA, and they agreed to do so. It took around 3 weeks for them to get me my Gen 4 19, and they sent it straight to my house, no FFL's or anything.

If I were you, DO NOT SELL IT!!! Glock already has your money, so make them replace it for one that actually works. They owe you a fully functioning pistol, and I assure you, they will exchange it if you insist.

**EDIT** Also, Glock will not install the new ejector in Gen 3's, only in the gen 4's. They say it will not fit, but that has been proved to be wrong, but they still refuse to do it. Glock could not fix my gen 3, this is why they replaced it.

Here she is. I have my original 2 mags and they sent the gen 4 with 3, so now I have 5 mags and a PERFECT pistol! It has been flawless.
gen4bodyshot.jpg
 
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^what smitty said. bought an older gen 4 glock 19 thats been nothing but problems and lots of parts replacements in it to make it work well. replaced the recoil spring (newest is 0-4-3, glock is doing a RSA switch program btw), switched out the ejector, put in a different extractor and now its working right. its a pain, but its worth it in the end.
 
A problem with a Glock? Say it isn't so! Must not have been run over by a tank or thrown down the throat of a volcano yet.
 
I assure ya'll that Glock will make it right. I have no plans on selling the pistol unless Glock wants to give me a full refund (assuming they won't install a proper ejector and possibly the extractor). I bought a Glock because they had so many loyal owners. I figured my chances of getting a good one were very good and now I see that they knew the problems sometime ago. They should have issued a recall, but that would have put a dent in their reputation. That's what happens when a mfg. makes a good product and they have trouble keeping up with demand, they start outsourcing parts and q/c goes to hell.

My Browning has never malfunctioned. It doesn't care if it's fed reloads, lead or +P+.
 
No problem with Glo9cks here.All of mine are Gen 3 or earlier.
Gen 1 19's were cut down 17's.Not many were made.
Glocks in general tend to toss brass at your forehead.I were a ball cap and ballixstic eyewear.
 
Welcome to the club. My Gen3 G27 shoots brass every which direction too, luckily it hasn't malfunctioned though. From what I can tell, Glock didn't machine the slide correctly, the cut-out for the extractor is too far forward toward the muzzle so the extractor isn't holding the spent casing to the breech face. The spent casing instead drops to the level of the magazine before the ejector hits, and when the ejector hits, it pivots right and the case mouth digs into the slide just below the ejection port opening, then the casing pivots upward and the case rim comes out from under the extractor claw early. Then the casing bounces around in the ejection port any number of ways before finally clearing the ejection port or getting caught in it as the slide returns forward.

Glock is addressing the issue in Gen4's with a new ejector which raises the case mouth of the spent casing earlier during ejection. However recent production Gen3's have the same problem and Glock won't install the new ejector into Gen3's. Most people who've had this problem with a Gen3 have had to pay to ship the gun to Glock, Glock sends it back to them shortly saying "Tested, in spec" and the gun wasn't fixed. So not only was the gun not fixed, the customers threw $60+ in the trash. smitty704 returned his Gen3 G19 twice and finally convinced the Warranty Department Manager to replace it with a Gen4 G19 which has the new ejector, his new Gen4 works flawlessly. He and another person originally sent their Gen3 G19's back, Glock replaced the extractor, the guns ejected fine for ~700 rounds then started throwing brass in their faces again.

Glock is slipping these days. I own two Glocks, one of them was made in 2004 and it functions flawlessly. The other, my G27, was made in 2009 and with the way it ejects and mangles the brass I just can't trust it. So far my experience with Glock has been 1 hit/1 miss. I don't think it's coincidence that most of the problems with Glock pistols have been reported only in recent years.

As to why they won't use the new ejector in Gen3's, what I think is that they don't mind fixing the problem in a new product for the sake of the reputation of that product, the Gen4. But they don't want to replace the same part in every existing pistol of previous Generations because it'll cost too much. A lot of the changes Glock has made over the past few years, particularly the cheaper processes used for making extractors, locking blocks, and firing pins, show that they're willing to sacrifice quality for the smallest fraction of a penny in savings. They're not about to replace a part in every gun they've ever made. One person on another forum put the new ejector into a Gen3 trigger housing to use in his Gen3 G34 which has the erratic ejection problem, not only did the new ejector work in the Gen3, it fixed the ejection problem.

The thing is though, they don't need to replace the ejector in every Glock ever made. Most Glocks work fine with the old ejector, it's only the ones with slides that weren't machined correctly that need the new ejector. Maybe Glock doesn't want to admit by selectively replacing the ejector in such a fashion that their quality control and manufacturing tolerances aren't what customers would expect from a pistol you're supposed to trust your life with.
 
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