Glock 380 Why now?
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mgmorden
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Is concealed carry even a major thing outside of the US though? Seems like without that option if you'd keeping or carrying a gun in any other fashion the bigger guns would be better.
Not every .380 needs to be a pocket only pistol. The .380 cartridge is a great compromise, and is a terrific shooting round in a moderately sized handgun. A Glock 380 is a great addition in my opinion and welcomed. I have a Browning DBA and bought Bersa pistols for family members. This Glock seems to be comparable in size. When any pistol manufacturer expands their selection to garnish a larger market share I say GREAT. I'm not sure there is a down side to this. Go Glock for giving us more options.
Deaf Smith
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Been thinking about the new Glock.
If it is the size of my TCP or a LCP but capable of lasting as long as my Glock 26 then I will see the little sucker and it might become one of mine.
See the little plastic guns tend to wear out fast but if the Glock .380 is like the other Glocks then it may have a place.
I reload .380 so ammo is no problem! And if it takes a +p+ .380 load and, again, is small as the TCP/LCP then it becomes interesting.
And like Dr. House, I like only interesting guns.
Deaf
If it is the size of my TCP or a LCP but capable of lasting as long as my Glock 26 then I will see the little sucker and it might become one of mine.
See the little plastic guns tend to wear out fast but if the Glock .380 is like the other Glocks then it may have a place.
I reload .380 so ammo is no problem! And if it takes a +p+ .380 load and, again, is small as the TCP/LCP then it becomes interesting.
And like Dr. House, I like only interesting guns.
Deaf
F-111 John
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I still think that for every .380 sale Glock makes on the 42, they're losing 5 sales for not making it in 9mm.
orionengnr
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Or, could be that Glock's Marketing Department is three years late and a dollar short...
More likely, a 9mm version is coming, but if they released that first, nobody would buy the .380.
wow6599
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Glock 30S, the 41 and 42...I don't know who does they're marketing research, but they seem to be always behind the curve, or pursuing a market that is not even there in a significant number.
I don't know why they would release a rather large .380 instead of 9mm (the most popular caliber). Hopefully they will make a 9mm and this will be the start of a line of "slim Glocks."
I don't know why they would release a rather large .380 instead of 9mm (the most popular caliber). Hopefully they will make a 9mm and this will be the start of a line of "slim Glocks."
It looks like a lot of folks have no clue about which guns to buy. We think they do, but maybe it's not true. Perhaps a new layer of shooters is hitting the pavement and their market research told them that this was the way to go, Or they are getting ready to add 3 rounds and make it in 9.
originally I thought it was to be a 15 round gun. like the berretta, only lighter. Not another bean shooter, the Kahr is a better deal.
originally I thought it was to be a 15 round gun. like the berretta, only lighter. Not another bean shooter, the Kahr is a better deal.
amd6547
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I predict we will soon seen new owners raving about how well it shoots, and how easy it is to carry. It will be a big success.
I also think that a lot of LEOs will find it an attractive option as a BUG or ankle gun, with the same manual of arms as their service pistol.
I also think that a lot of LEOs will find it an attractive option as a BUG or ankle gun, with the same manual of arms as their service pistol.
Aaron1100us
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exactly. So dissappointed in Glock. I want more firepower, not less.
Glock 9MM Single Stack
Glock is conspicuous in their absence in the single stack 9 market.
They surely know full well that a single stack 9 would sell like proverbial hot cakes.
They could engineer it and tool up for production in their sleep.
Curious...
Glock is conspicuous in their absence in the single stack 9 market.
They surely know full well that a single stack 9 would sell like proverbial hot cakes.
They could engineer it and tool up for production in their sleep.
Curious...
MICHAEL T
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The new 380 is very close slightly larger in size than the KelTec PF-9 . I don't really think of my PF-9 as a pocket pistol
Glock
length 5.94"
height 4.14"
width .94"
weight 13.76oz unloaded
Trigger pull 5.5 lbs
6+1 rounds
KelTec PF-9
length 5.85"
height 4.3"
width .88"
weight unloaded 12.7 oz
trigger pull 5lbs
7 +1 of 9mm
Glock
length 5.94"
height 4.14"
width .94"
weight 13.76oz unloaded
Trigger pull 5.5 lbs
6+1 rounds
KelTec PF-9
length 5.85"
height 4.3"
width .88"
weight unloaded 12.7 oz
trigger pull 5lbs
7 +1 of 9mm
Glock is a successful company that has a strategy for everything. In the next year or two I'd bet that a single stack 9 (maybe even a 40) comes out. If they came out with the 9 now, their sales of 380 would be awful. But if they come out with something more concealable than the 26/27 in 380 now then wait a year or two and come out with a 9/40 they will be able to make a huge profit on both lines.
There are enough glock fans out there that will buy the new 42 to conceal easier and as soon as the 9 comes out will line up to buy it too. The same would not be true in reverse.
There are enough glock fans out there that will buy the new 42 to conceal easier and as soon as the 9 comes out will line up to buy it too. The same would not be true in reverse.
jerkface11
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Looks quite a bit thinner.
Ash
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More likely is the fact that Glock is no longer the upstart. They've really started to become complacent with their product line, which no matter how you slice it is an endless array of modifications of the exact same pistol. Glock no longer innovates. They have their product and have made tons of it, but there has been nothing really new from Glock in decades, merely permutations of the same product. They have reached that point that until new leadership arrives, they'll keep tossing out new model numbers that are essentially minutia in differences.
I don't trash Glock that way, merely making a manufacturing observation. It has always been thus, among most manufacturers regardless the product. Glock has become complacent with their success, but so did IBM, Commodore, GM, Ford (any color as long as it is black), RCA, you name it.
I don't trash Glock that way, merely making a manufacturing observation. It has always been thus, among most manufacturers regardless the product. Glock has become complacent with their success, but so did IBM, Commodore, GM, Ford (any color as long as it is black), RCA, you name it.
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Gun enthusiasts (most of us on THR, I suspect) always seem to be looking for smaller, more powerful handguns; a 9mm the size of a matchbook would, I sometimes think, sell like hotcakes.
For the rest-the majority-of gunowners, some of those little guns are too brutal to be worth carrying. Ruger is selling their LCR's in .22LR and .22 Mag to SOMEONE, after all, and that's not a plinker.
It could well be that a gun large enough to be shot fairly well, and not so powerful as to be unpleasant to shoot, will have masses of folks lining up for it; I think it will, myself.
Larry
For the rest-the majority-of gunowners, some of those little guns are too brutal to be worth carrying. Ruger is selling their LCR's in .22LR and .22 Mag to SOMEONE, after all, and that's not a plinker.
It could well be that a gun large enough to be shot fairly well, and not so powerful as to be unpleasant to shoot, will have masses of folks lining up for it; I think it will, myself.
Larry
You guys don't get it. The internet "gun guy" isn't the target market for this gun. This is going to be a huge success with women, new shooters buying their first self defense pistol and people that would normally have trouble handling a snappier pocket nine easily. It's going to be a huge improvement over guns like the LCP, with it's slightly larger size making it easier to hold and control, real sights and a trigger that allows more accurate shooting than the long, heavy trigger normally found on those little .380s.
I predict a runaway best seller for them as long as they price it right, and not the same as say a 26. It needs to be ~$400, not in the $500 range.
I predict a runaway best seller for them as long as they price it right, and not the same as say a 26. It needs to be ~$400, not in the $500 range.
olderguns
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I belive hexhead has it,
My wife has a taurus 380 its so small the snappy recoil makes it hard for her to hit her target,
On the other hand she can out shoot me with her G19,
So most people who try the extra small 380,s missing most of the time (talking new shooters here) then try a bigger Glock 380 and can actually hit the target they will buy it in a heartbeat.
My wife has a taurus 380 its so small the snappy recoil makes it hard for her to hit her target,
On the other hand she can out shoot me with her G19,
So most people who try the extra small 380,s missing most of the time (talking new shooters here) then try a bigger Glock 380 and can actually hit the target they will buy it in a heartbeat.
mdauben
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IMO Glock hasn't had a really innovative new product since they released the Glock 17. Everything they have done since then is just a variation on the Glock 17 design. Different sizes, different calibers, minor modifications to the grip but at the heart of it they are all the same gun.
Now, that's not necessarily a knock on Glock as I'm something of a fan myself. I like the fact that all my Glocks are basically the same gun. This makes transitioning from my big G21 to a little G26 much easier and I don't need to learn new manual of arms or new disassembly procedures with every new gun I buy.
Vodoun da Vinci
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Exactly...the "teeny tiny kicks like a mule" .380 has been tried and tested by newbies entering the CCW market and, while it is more concealable and controllable than a similar sized 9mm still doesn't solve the basic problem - most folks are not "living the carry gun dream".....they just want to buy a gun they can shoot and defend themselves with and maybe practice 2X or 4X a year if that much. They want a smaller pistol that they can actually carry and have available if life gets ugly in that way. They don't collect guns, read gun boards, and don't follow firearm trends not research looking for the very best ammo and performance. They go to the LGS, ask questions, and buy/rent a gun, go to the range and that's the end of it.
The Glock 42 will sell like hotcakes and Ruger and others will have a competitive pistol out in .380 in the next 2 years to catch up to it. And not just "old frail people" or "recoil sensitive wimps" are gonna buy it. I know it's hard to believe but Internet Gun Boards do not have their fingers on the pulse of the gun buying public where I live. my Wife loves our G26 and one would assume that she'd buy a single stack G26 sized 9mm in a heart beat but she told me she would not - she will buy a similar sized .380 as that has a recoil level that is much more comfortable that a comparable 9mm. She's a bit small statured but she relatively the same size as a dozen of her friends who are looking for CCW pistols and listening to my Wife's advice and watching her choices, handling her pistols, and at our house looking at our guns (shooting our guns) for perspective.
What folks want and what they are buying and looking for bears absolutely no resemblance to this thread or any of the threads that keep saying everyone wants a single stack 9mm or teeny tiny .45.....these guns are for experts and gun aficionados or those who think the are experts and gun aficionados. Where I live people want and are buying smaller (maybe not pocket sized but concealable) pistols that are simple, rugged, low maintenance, and will not beat them up when they shoot them for their upcoming proficiency tests or in validating to themselves they can actually load, carry, and hit with what they are carrying.
Lot's of folks here locally are trading in their 9mm's and .40' s and .45's they bought as a carry piece because they just shot it 3 weeks ago and can't manage the recoil and didn't find the experience enlightening nor comforting in the least. This viewpoint and perspective is a result of interviewing my neighbors, friends, people I have met at the local indoor range, and a host of coworkers and newcomers to CCW and guns in general here in Illinois. The Experts and Gun Board Gurus want something completely different than what Joe America wants for CCW at this time, where I am. Everywhere? Maybe not...but I strongly suspect that what us Gun Board Junkies and Gun Lovers see as "normal" and "desireable" is nothing like what the general public sees as a potential purchase in many regards.
I'm sorry to say that the Internet Gun Guru Experts are not representative of the mentality I am seeing here locally...people want concealable guns with manageable recoil and this leaves out the teeny tiny 9mm's and even the tiny .380's that kick like mules. The Ruger LCP and guns like it in .380 has been "the .380 standard" because the Glock 42 and guns like have it not hit the market yet - people only have experienced what has been available. The market for guns like the G42 is huge. The concept that we need teeny tiny pocket rockets that hit hands like a hammer is over...the next big thing in guns sales to the GP will be controllable, concealable pistols for the real world user, IMO.
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The Glock 42 will sell like hotcakes and Ruger and others will have a competitive pistol out in .380 in the next 2 years to catch up to it. And not just "old frail people" or "recoil sensitive wimps" are gonna buy it. I know it's hard to believe but Internet Gun Boards do not have their fingers on the pulse of the gun buying public where I live. my Wife loves our G26 and one would assume that she'd buy a single stack G26 sized 9mm in a heart beat but she told me she would not - she will buy a similar sized .380 as that has a recoil level that is much more comfortable that a comparable 9mm. She's a bit small statured but she relatively the same size as a dozen of her friends who are looking for CCW pistols and listening to my Wife's advice and watching her choices, handling her pistols, and at our house looking at our guns (shooting our guns) for perspective.
What folks want and what they are buying and looking for bears absolutely no resemblance to this thread or any of the threads that keep saying everyone wants a single stack 9mm or teeny tiny .45.....these guns are for experts and gun aficionados or those who think the are experts and gun aficionados. Where I live people want and are buying smaller (maybe not pocket sized but concealable) pistols that are simple, rugged, low maintenance, and will not beat them up when they shoot them for their upcoming proficiency tests or in validating to themselves they can actually load, carry, and hit with what they are carrying.
Lot's of folks here locally are trading in their 9mm's and .40' s and .45's they bought as a carry piece because they just shot it 3 weeks ago and can't manage the recoil and didn't find the experience enlightening nor comforting in the least. This viewpoint and perspective is a result of interviewing my neighbors, friends, people I have met at the local indoor range, and a host of coworkers and newcomers to CCW and guns in general here in Illinois. The Experts and Gun Board Gurus want something completely different than what Joe America wants for CCW at this time, where I am. Everywhere? Maybe not...but I strongly suspect that what us Gun Board Junkies and Gun Lovers see as "normal" and "desireable" is nothing like what the general public sees as a potential purchase in many regards.
I'm sorry to say that the Internet Gun Guru Experts are not representative of the mentality I am seeing here locally...people want concealable guns with manageable recoil and this leaves out the teeny tiny 9mm's and even the tiny .380's that kick like mules. The Ruger LCP and guns like it in .380 has been "the .380 standard" because the Glock 42 and guns like have it not hit the market yet - people only have experienced what has been available. The market for guns like the G42 is huge. The concept that we need teeny tiny pocket rockets that hit hands like a hammer is over...the next big thing in guns sales to the GP will be controllable, concealable pistols for the real world user, IMO.
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mgmorden
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Um, Ruger already has the LC380 which is virtually the same size as the Glock 42, AND the LCP which is smaller if you want to go smaller. AND they make this size gun in 9mm.
You can debate quality of the products (I think Ruger matches up to Glock just fine), but for market segments covered Ruger has nothing to fear from Glock.
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