Glock Gen4 crap out reports already coming in

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Sheesh guys grow up a little. They are machines. We don't judge a mechanic by his tools, we judge his competence by how well he performs. Are shooting and gun-handling really that different?
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That is exactly right - my old girlfriend was about as homely as a Glock, but very functional and reliable. (Of course, a paper sack would have been a nice feature!)

Hmmm - Wonder if a Glock would function reliably from inside a paper sack?
 
I'm just joking here though, just think it's funny when guys believe their brand is the champ.

Try a Glock sometime, put a couple thousand rounds through one without cleaning or issue than detail strip it in 2 mins in the dark while watching tv... their simplicity is genius, never know, you might even end up liking it...
 
Android, I'm attempting to illustrate the stupidity of trying to extrapolate global quality from the results of a local incident that couldn't even be replicated by the shooter who OWNED the Gen4 Glock in question. Read the thread.

As I've been saying, the Gen4 MAY have a design flaw, I don't know. But only an idiot would claim to know the reliability of an entire line of firearms because some guy got a jam at a range somewhere for some reason.

My Glock 17 has over 10k rounds through it with only 1 malfunction, which was ammo related. I'm pretty confident in it. My CZ-75 has over 5k rounds through it, zero malfunctions. I'm confident in these guns.

Make-y the sense?
 
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android said:
You've posted a picture of a broken gun. No explanation, no info about ammo, so nothing factual to go on.
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you've provided no facts for your insinuations either...


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I didn't make my choice based on popularity and price which appears to be the most quoted reason for buying a Glock. All the Police use them, you should too.
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the US Customs issues HK's (as do many other agencies), so what's the reason you bought one, android? is it the big H & K :scrutiny:
 
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I also practice shooting right handed with a weak grip attempting to get a misfeed due to limp wristing. It just won't happen. If you claim to carry a pistol for defense and you can't work it with either hand, then what will you do when something goes wrong?

I've put about 5000 rounds through these guns with not a single failure, not even when new.
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And Glocks won't work in your non-dominant hand? Sound's like a software problem to me.

I've put well over double that round count through my Glocks and never had a weapon induced malfunction.

I've had hard primers on my reloads fail to ignite. I've had SWC reloads fail to chamber. I had one failure to feed once in my 36, firing left handed with weak reloads I made to get rid of some Trailboss I didn't need anymore.
 
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I just picked up my brand new Glock 17 Gen 4 on Tuesday. I got home to fire it and I had the same problem - Misfeed, failure to feed, failure to eject, etc...... The exact thing that photo depicts. I tried several times to correct this problem, but every round fired would have the same result. So I went to a local indoor range which also has a Glock armorer on site. The solution was pretty simple really: Field strip the weapon, get all of the factory grease out of it and wipe it down throughouly. Then apply your 4 drops of breakfree, put the weapon back together. Manually rack it back and fourth about 50 - 100 times. After all this, I loaded her up and she has ran like a champ every since! The problem was the new tighter spring, the factory grease, and starting out with weak ammo (Sellier & Bellot in this case). She will now eat whatever I feed her! The tight groups at a fast rate of fire on this thing are AMAZING!
 
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I just picked up my brand new Glock 17 Gen 4 on Tuesday. I got home to fire it and I had the same problem - Misfeed, failure to feed, failure to eject, etc...... The exact thing that photo depicts. I tried several times to correct this problem, but every round fired would have the same result. So I went to a local indoor range which also has a Glock armorer on site. The solution was pretty simple really: Field strip the weapon, get all of the factory grease out of it and wipe it down throughouly. Then apply your 4 drops of breakfree, put the weapon back together. Manually rack it back and fourth about 50 - 100 times. After all this, I loaded her up and she has ran like a champ every since! The problem was the new tighter spring, the factory grease, and starting out with weak ammo (Sellier & Bellot in this case). She will now eat whatever I feed her! The tight groups at a fast rate of fire on this thing are AMAZING!
 
I thought that was S.O.P. with every gun? It is certainly what I did when I bought my 2 glocks years ago, and continue to do with every new gun I buy. That brown "grease" that comes in glocks gets wiped out before I ever take it to the range.
 
glock suggest you leave the bronze anti seize compound on until it dissipates on it's own. it's clearly stated in the manual.

and no, it's not normal to have to rack a gun 100 times to "break in" the recoil spring.
 
huh. Now Glocks need a Kel-Tec style "Fluff and Buff"


I thought Glock was the pistol that you could bet your life on "out of the box"?
 
I didn't do any of that stuff. I did ,however, wipe off that copper colored grease... and yes, it works great "out of the box"... and yes, I can bet my life on a glock.
 
I have a Gen1 G22 that has never missed a beat...Am I at a huge disadvantage ? Its from 1999, a factory rebuilt. The only issue is dead night sights.
 
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Personaly i dont know why Glock went to the Gen 4. They were good pistols as they were. Personaly i like my M&P so much i got rid of my Glocks. My M&P40 points better and i just plain shoot it better. No more Glocks for me
 
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Hey Android, I thought H&K's were only for newbs or "real operators" which are you?

Pistol design as to fine cuisine is a pretty funny but irrelevent metaphor... H&K's have crappy triggers, or, they're like an expertly grilled ribeye that cost $50 (though the resturant paid maybe $10) that's unedible as it's fallen in the gutter.

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Compared to an white castle H&K trigger, a Glock trigger is filet mignon
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i know it was at least partially in jest, but a point of clarification... not all HK triggers are created equal. even the same model can come in various Versions.

My USP in da/sa has had triggerwork.net's trigger job and it is much more precise in let off than my stock gen 3 G19's trigger. not a fair comparison? too bad, still invalidates your jest. the Glock's reset (strength) wins, yes. But the trigger feel alone can be learned with different handguns, missing an ambi mag relasse or slide release is much more of a disadvantage for carry guns where you may need to use from something other than a perfect weaver stance. Are you speaking of a range gun for offhand 25 yd groups? then neither line is best.

my P7's has an amazing trigger, stock; I haven't even sent it to Bill yet. My p30 is not a LEM, it is also a da/sa, the takeup is longer than ideal but it's release is still more 'usp' like than my G19.

now, i love my gen3 g19, for the simple-utility-gun it is, but I don't like the mag release as compared to my usp or p30 nor the slide release (yes i have an extended one on my g19 to try to help) so for my carry guns, i prefer the HK. is a glock hidden with some bug-out-supplies somewhere secret, yup, it serves the purpose. Plus there are times when i prefer the manual safety of the usp/p30s over my G19, so gen 3 or gen 4 glock doesnt' matter it doesn't fit.. I'm glad I know all of them personally and shoot them well, but I am neither a newby or an operator, I just like the ergos, guality and the fit of the HK line.

but to write off a whole manufacturer b/c of a blanket statement on "crappy triggers" is shortsighted. to lump owners of a marque into groups is also simplistic.
 
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Personaly i dont know why Glock went to the Gen 4. They were good pistols as they were. Personaly i like my M&P so much i got rid of my Glocks. My M&P40 points better and i just plain shoot it better. No more Glocks for me
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Dude, you're the walking testament as to why Glock went to Gen 4.

Glock rested on its laurels and became the dinosaur they once hunted. You couldn't pay me to use one. Two Sheriffs tried to and I declined twice in favor of first the Beretta 92FS and then a SIG P226 and P220 privately purchased. My life was too precious to me to rely upon a low bidder I had no constructive input into the adoption of. The Department's bean counters were mightily dazzled at the overall package though.

When it comes down to it, one has to decide whether he wants a cheap cop gun that was dangled before the brass in a package deal with holsters and trade outs or a military grade sidearm riding in his holster. And by "military grade" I mean adopted by a military that actually shoots bad guys, not sits it out or buys off terrorists--which describes the vast majority of Glock's military customers.

It's personally never been tough to turn down a Glock. It was made by a curtain rod magnate for Austrian conscripts with no meaningful experience with handguns--and it shows through every time I grip one of those oddities.

The only one that is even mildly interesting is the G20.
 
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