glock question

[sarduy]

this is a quick glock question

can a glock 37 (.45gap) be converted to (45 acp) with only a barrel and magazine change from a glock 21, or i need something alse?

 

[REAPER4206969]

No. .45GAP is forever .45GAP. I recommend not buying one, it is a dying cartridge.

 

[Oldnoob]

No.

And I don't think it's a dieing caliber. It's simply not popular as now.

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

No. .45GAP is forever .45GAP. I recommend not buying one, it is a dying cartridge.

+1

glock is now the only manufacturer still making GAPs. springer no longer offers a GAP XD, and Para no longer offers GAP 1911's.

the springer EMP was originally chambered for GAP when it won the NRA gun of the year award, but they never marketed it in that caliber...

 

[sarduy]

lol no wonder i can get one for $350

 

[ugaarguy]

You already have the answer on the conversion. However, with the State Police / Patrols of Georgia, New York, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania now issuing pistols in .45 GAP it looks like the cartridge will be holding on for a while.

 

[REAPER4206969]

One website recently was selling complete model 37 uppers with Glock night sights to use on model 17/17L/22/24/31/34/35 Glock's for $150 LOL.

 

[REAPER4206969]

However, with the State Police / Patrols of Georgia, New York, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania now issuing pistols in .45 GAP it looks like the cartridge will be holding on for a while.

The only reason they went with the GAP is because Glock did a straight trade for the departments guns. Glock basically gave the GAP guns to them.

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

The only reason they went with the GAP is because Glock did a straight trade for the departments guns. Glock basically gave the GAP guns to them.

this is true, it's the same marketing scheme glock did over 25 years ago when they hit these shores. they practically gave away their guns to police dpts for almost free, thereby "wowing" the civilian market into buying them also when they saw most LE agencies adopting them, and it worked brilliantly.

thing is, once current reserves of cheap GAP ammo has been sold, the price of GAP will sky rocket as it will only be manufactured for these couple police agencies and a tiny civilian market. these half dozen agencies will them dump the gap as will the few civilians that use it, and it'll fade off into the sunset like a bad movie.

 

[REAPER4206969]

thing is, once current reserves of cheap GAP ammo has been sold, the price of GAP will sky rocket as it will only be manufactured for these couple police agencies and a minute civilian market. these half dozen agencies will them dump the gap as will the few civilians that use it, and it'll fade off into the sunset like a bad movie.

/thread

 

[Quiet]

Due to the OAL of the .45ACP, it will not fit in the grip/mag well of a Glock 17/22/31/37.
So, it is not physically possible to convert a .45GAP into a .45ACP.


As long as law enforcement uses a particular cartridge, that cartridge will not die out.
Currently, about 10% (GA, SC, NY, PA & FL. [FL is waiting on shipment of the 4th gen Glock in .45GAP]) of the state law enforcement agencies in the USA have adopted the .45GAP.

Glock, Bond Arms and HS Produkt currently produce handguns in .45GAP.
Speer, Winchester, Remington and Federal currently produces .45GAP ammo.

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

Glock, Bond Arms and HS Produkt currently produce handguns in .45GAP

who?

 

[gb6491]

Quote:
Glock, Bond Arms and HS Produkt currently produce handguns in .45GAP
who?

I'm guessing that "who?" is tongue-in-cheek, but I love the animated cartoon on the Bond Arms website.
FWIW: HS Produkt
Regards,
Greg

 

[ugaarguy]

thing is, once current reserves of cheap GAP ammo has been sold, the price of GAP will sky rocket as it will only be manufactured for these couple police agencies and a tiny civilian market. these half dozen agencies will them dump the gap as will the few civilians that use it, and it'll fade off into the sunset like a bad movie.

A .45 GAP case is essentially a short .45 ACP case, so it's not some exotic caliber with no parent case from which to make brass. State agencies have contracts with their ammo mfr. of choice, and buy in such quantities that their pricing is always very competitive with any other common service pistol caliber. Further, most state agencies don't change guns very often, so those four or five state agencies will be issuing .45 GAP pistols for at least another 10 years in all likelihood. If we know anything about Glock, they'll continue to give LE new guns in .45 GAP in even trade for their old service pistols. I don't think .45 GAP is anything special, but I don't think it's a bad caliber by any stretch either. If Glock wants to give away guns, and save the taxpayers money, I have no problem with it. Pistols in .45 GAP wouldn't be anywhere near my first choice if I was arming a LE agency, but like I said it's a perfectly good service cartridge, and free is a very compelling argument.

 

[REAPER4206969]

A .45 GAP case is essentially a short .45 ACP case, so it's not some exotic caliber with no parent case from which to make brass.

The GAP case is nothing like an ACP case. The GAP case has thicker walls, has a different extraction groove and uses a small pistol primer. You can not make a GAP case out of ACP brass.

 

[REAPER4206969]

HS Produkt currently produce handguns in .45GAP

The Springfield Armory XD (HS Produkt ) in .45GAP has been discontinued from production.

 

[Quiet]

Springfield Armory may have stopped importation, but HS Produkt still produces the HS2000 in .45GAP for sale in other countries.

HS Produkt is considering the .45GAP and .357SIG as the next caliber for the XDm series.

 

[X-Rap]

Better buy some brass.

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

HS Produkt is considering the .45GAP and .357SIG as the next caliber for the XDm series.

source?

i went on the HS Product site and saw no evidence that this company is, or will produce any 45 GAP models.

like the reaper and i already mentioned, XD's in 45GAP were already discontinued a while back.

A .45 GAP case is essentially a short .45 ACP case, so it's not some exotic caliber with no parent case from which to make brass.

actually, it is an exotic caliber with no parent case to make brass from. 45GAP has thicker walls and uses small pistol primers, whereas 45acp has thinner case walls and uses large pistol primers. you cannot make 45GAP shells from 45acp.