Glock truck gun

[Flfiremedic]

I'm looking for a full size Glock to keep in my console. Narrowed it down to a G21 SF 45 acp or G31 in 357 Sig. Any advice or opinions of one over the other would be great.

 

[X-Rap]

The 357 shoots flatter and has better capacity. That would make a difference in a truck gun for me. I suspect it has better penetration in windshields and car bodies as well, might simply be a velocity vs bullet weight trade off though but the trajectory and capacity cant' be denied.

 

[Fiv3r]

I dunno if I would want to touch off a .357 sig inside a cab if I didn't have to. I'd go with the 21.

My Glock truck gun is a 26 simply because it takes up less room in my console.

 

[Peter M. Eick]

Fiv3r has a very good point about the 357sig. As a 357 Sig fan, I would have to really think hard about touching one off in a small space.

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

If you are considering a G21 or G32 (.357 Sig), why not the G20, in 10mm? It will shoot THROUGH a truck better than the other two.

 

[bill3424]

I'm a .45 guy, so I'd say go with the G21.

With that being said, I'd consider the size and location of the gun. Does it fit in the center console? Does it fit in holster under or on the side of a seat?

That .357 will be awfully loud inside a car. Any specific reason you want a .45 or .357? Like the previous poster, would you consider a 10mm?

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

Heh! Given the confines of a truck cab, I don't think I'd enjoy touching off ANY firearm, regardless! Though the possibility of hearing damage will vary depending on the ammunition, of course.

Both are good calibers, for any number of reasons. I'm a .45 fan, myself; but the .357 is also an outstanding caliber in it's own right.

Here's what I'd recommend, which is the same for any handgun:

1. Check the guns for fit and comfort in your hand. If you don't like how a gun fits, then it'll adversely affect you in a variety of ways, including such things as even wanting to shoot it in the first place.

2. If possible, shoot the buggers. Rent them at a range or find a buddy who has one. See what they're like. If one is easier to control, or otherwise shoot, that should speak loudly to you.

 

[stressed]

I wouldn't worry about noise when firing out of the truck. I would recommend 10mm as well. If you like bottleneck cartidges, then you can convert your 10mm to a 9x25 Dillon and it's like a .357 sig on steroids.

But then again I'ved fired a shotgun with 3" magnum HiVel buckshot out of a truck cab along with numerous automatic rifle caliber weapons out of moving vehicles in the military - so noise is not my concern.

 

[Magnuumpwr]

Just curious, how many here have actually fired any handgun in a confined vehicle with the doors closed and windows up? I have fired 357 mag (revolver), 44 mag (revolver), 9mm and 45 ACP. No hearing protection used to know exactly what to expect. These test were spread out, as one might expect. After anyone of the four, you will have a throbbing headache. With adrenaline flowing I seriously doubt you will even notice the deafening noise till well after it's over. So, all you need to do is pick a caliber/gun you like. The other factor is sitting in your vehicle, gun unloaded, and located where ever you plan to carry it. Draw it to fire out the drivers side, then draw to fire towards the passenger side (may also attempt to try and cover the backseat passenger side if applicable). This will help you determine the maximum size of the gun to still be useful.

 

[rcmodel]

I am not a fan of leaving any gun in a vehicle unattended.

Bad enough some crackhead scum breaks a window and steals your carwash quarters.

But how bad would it be if you supplied them with a fully functional Glock and they went out and killed somebody with it!!

rc

 

[Manny]

IIRC, back in the 1930's the .38 Super became popular with law enforcement partly because of it's ability to shoot through car bodies. The .357 Sig is a modern update to the still potent Super and strikes me as a superb choice as a truck gun, though the noise would be intense. I also prefer the mid-frame Glock over the large and the flat shooting .357 would give some extra reach. Besides, the .357 is a supercharged version of my current choice, a Glock 34 or 17lL with winchester's super hot 127gr +p+ which gives near Sig performance.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

I would go 10mm for a truck gun, after that .45 or 9mm since I fear for the future of the .357SIG.

 

[newglockguy]

Go with .45. 357 sig is pretty hard to find presently

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I would go with whatever police trade in I could find for the least money.

 

[BigRugerLover]

The biggest difference will probably be that the 357sig will leave you a little more deaf and, if at night, a little more blind, than the 45.

And I'd agree with the members who mentioned something about ammo availability. I've had a really hard time finding 357sig for my G27 (barrel from a G33 of course). 45 ought to be enough gun.

 

[Sheepdog1968]

Which round do you feel more comfortable with and shoot better?

 

[Flfiremedic]

Im pretty comfortable with either...5 years narctics with a G23, and 8 years with G19s overseas. Wondering about the 357 Sig long term, and muzzle flash and noise, but like the ballistics. Can anyone shed some light on the round's future?
The 21SF and I are old friends, but I have a lot of muscle memory with the 17/19/23 sized frame.
We are planning a move to WY in a couple of years, making the 10mm in SF viable, but it can be a lot for SD apps in full size loads.
Thanks for the advice guys. Keep it coming! Again weapon will be in console for easy access while seated. Can't always access my G19 while sitting in vehicle, and drive through some rough areas on way to school...or maybe there aren't many safe areas in the Tampa Bay area...IEDs wouldnt surprise me
Thanks again,

Medic

 

[19-3Ben]

The 357 shoots flatter

Sure it does, but at what distance do you have to shoot it to notice a difference?
People sometimes talk about bottlenecked high-velocity rounds shooting flatter, but let's face it, if you have to shoot it at 75 yards to notice a difference, there are very VERY few times in a practical SD scenario when shooting at 75 yards with a handgun would be warranted anyway.

At the range? obviously a different can 'o beans all together. But the OP is looking for a truck gun not a range toy.

 

[ku4hx]

If you are considering a G21 or G32 (.357 Sig), why not the G20, in 10mm? It will shoot THROUGH a truck better than the other two.

Yep, that's what mine is ... Gen2 model 20. Fits right handily in the center console of my 1999 Ford F150.

 

[peacemaker45]

Well, providing that the truck is a full size model, I'd say go with the 21. That'd be an excellent way to carry one.

 

[Hanzo581]

I am not a fan of leaving any gun in a vehicle unattended.

Bad enough some crackhead scum breaks a window and steals your carwash quarters.

But how bad would it be if you supplied them with a fully functional Glock and they went out and killed somebody with it!!

rc

This is exactly how I feel. Now they do have lock boxes you can install in vehicles, so if I had somewhere to mount something like that I would, but otherwise I wouldn't take the risk of arming a criminal that busted my window.

And yeah, I know those lock boxes aren't impossible to get into but it would slow someone down and since they want to be as quick and quiet as possible I think it would be a nice deterrent.

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

This is exactly how I feel. Now they do have lock boxes you can install in vehicles, so if I had somewhere to mount something like that I would, but otherwise I wouldn't take the risk of arming a criminal that busted my window.

And yeah, I know those lock boxes aren't impossible to get into but it would slow someone down and since they want to be as quick and quiet as possible I think it would be a nice deterrent.

Another thing to consider here, with lock boxes, is that they may not meet the letter of the law in one's state, depending on where you install the lock box.

In the case of South Carolina, for example:

SECTION 16-23-20. Unlawful carrying of handgun; exceptions.

It is unlawful for anyone to carry about the person any handgun, whether concealed or not, except as follows, unless otherwise specifically prohibited by law:

(9) a person in a vehicle if the handgun is secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle; however, this item is not violated if the glove compartment, console, or trunk is opened in the presence of a law enforcement officer for the sole purpose of retrieving a driver’s license, registration, or proof of insurance;

Source:

http://www.sled.sc.gov/SCStateGunLaws1.aspx?MenuID=CWP

Please note that the lock boxes most people are talking about (after market lock boxes with a lanyard) do not meet the SC definition of legal if it's not "a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle". The law makes no provisions for such a box installed, say, under the driver's seat.

However, if it will fit inside a closed glove compartment or closed console, then you're good to go.

 

[X-Rap]

I worry as much about a gun being stolen from my truck as I do one being stolen from my house.
I also have on more than a few occasions made shots from the there abouts of my truck in the area of 100 yds give or take so flat shooting is something that I want in a "truck" gun.
So far as letting one loose in the cab, I don't think the difference between most of the popular 9mm-45caliber what ever will be of much difference and if it come to that most of us wouldn't care either.

 

[onthehunt]

Mine is a Glock 19. But, if you're set on either a .45 acp or .357 sig I would go with the Glock 21..

 

[Manny]

If your normal carry gun is a G19, why not make your truck gun the same? Two is one, one is none......