I'd like to know what your opinion of Goex Pinnacle is. I was given a full container and considering using it to reload my .45 colt brass. It was caked almost completely solid so I crumbled it into powder. After that, it didn't flow through the funnel so I hesitate using it in a flask. I assume it requires no air gap and the same filler technique as black powder. Anyone here use it?
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I bought 25 pounds of Pinnacle from Powder Inc because it was cheap. I have been fairly disappointed with the powder. My primary complaint is that it leaves a gray crude in the bore which is very difficult to remove. It is much easier to clean up after good old black powder. Pinnacle has also more difficult to ignite, leading to more misfires.
I am currently using my remaining Pinnacle for loading cartridges. It seems to preform about the same as black powder, but it is safe to meter through a standard powder measure.
If you only have one pound, I would not bother with it. Once I shoot up my remaining stock, I do not plan on buying any more (no matter how cheap it gets).
I am currently using my remaining Pinnacle for loading cartridges. It seems to preform about the same as black powder, but it is safe to meter through a standard powder measure.
If you only have one pound, I would not bother with it. Once I shoot up my remaining stock, I do not plan on buying any more (no matter how cheap it gets).
I like it better than 777, but I only use it in my revolvers. It was the only choice I had in anything 3F as a local source. The only things I've got against it is that it clumps and gets oily after firing. It cleans up as easily as BP. I haven't tried real BP in my pistols or cartridges yet, but it seemed to work well.
Goex has discontinued it, though. They bought American Pioneer Powder, their really chunky Shockey's Gold is going to be their only substitute available.
Goex has discontinued it, though. They bought American Pioneer Powder, their really chunky Shockey's Gold is going to be their only substitute available.
Fingers McGee
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I've been using 26 grains of Pinnacle for my 44-40 loads for a few years. Meters ok through my Hornady L-N-L reloader. Accuracy is good for CAS matches and clean up in my '66 carbine only take 3 or 4 patches. Since it is no longer being made, I'll probably go back to using real BP exclusively when I run out.
I will be loading .45 Long Colts with it today. Guess I'll have to experience it myself. At least I know what to expect thanks to your opinions.
alsaqr
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i shoot a lot of Pinnacle in my muzzleloaders. The bores clean up easily using patches wet with Windex with vinegar-now called Multi-Purpose Windex.
I've used either 777 or Goex Pinnacle in my Pietta Remington, Ruger Old Army, Dance and Brothers, Uberti Walker, Uberti 3rd Model Dragoon, and Palmetto Dragoon Pistol carbine all with good results. I've only used hot soapy water to clean them and Ballistol or Breakfree CLP to lube them; I didn't have any weird reactions to it or deposits from the BP substitutes. If I get lazy and don't clean my SS Remington or Ruger, I notice gray fuzzy stuff on the forcing cone after a couple of days. (I clean my blued guns the evening after I shoot them.) Pinnacle and 777 "self lubricate", I don't have to use greased wads with them; I use a dry wad to wipe the bore, just in case. The fouling is greasy and so easy to clean off, I use a baby wipe on my Remington's frame and it cames right off. If I only shoot one or two cylinders, I only have to soak the cylinders in hot soapy water to get the fouling off. I run hot water down the forcing cone and run a nylon brush down the bore followed by a wet swab and then a dry swab and it's shiny clean.
When I run out of Pinnacle, I'm going to use KIK in my revolvers and use lubed and dry wads together again.
I've loaded and fired about 100 rounds of .45 Colt loaded with Pinnacle. At first 30 grains with a 245 grain wadcutter, now 25 grains with either a 200 grain wadcutter or 200 grain round nose with a dry felt wad to fill the space. I'm going to try the same load in a Schofield case, minus the felt wad.
When I run out of Pinnacle, I'm going to use KIK in my revolvers and use lubed and dry wads together again.
I've loaded and fired about 100 rounds of .45 Colt loaded with Pinnacle. At first 30 grains with a 245 grain wadcutter, now 25 grains with either a 200 grain wadcutter or 200 grain round nose with a dry felt wad to fill the space. I'm going to try the same load in a Schofield case, minus the felt wad.
Pinnacle tends to draw moisture easily so that it clumps, but it is still good. After firing it does leave an oily residue which keeps a revolver lubed and working. It is not as hot as regular BP or other subs, but it is fun to shoot and as other have stated, it cleans up easily. I don't mind shooting it, but I prefer real GOEX BP. This pic shows APP being shot from a pair of 1860's.
arcticap
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I made a short 5 second video clip shooting 35 grains of APP fffg out of a Pietta 1858 and it has always performed well. The round ball can be seen immediately impacting the berm just behind the right side of the target. Just turn up the volume & click on the photo and replay it 6 times to see what it looks like to shoot a fully loaded cylinder of it. 
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