Going to Appleseed this weekend, check me...

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hadmanysons

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I have:

1 Semi-auto 22lr rifle
550 rounds of 22lr ammo

1 AR-15
2 20rnd mags
200 rounds of .223

1 Remington 700 .308 with scope (for the 500 yard range)
40 rounds of .308 ammo


Aside from this and the various sundries (water, shooting mat, etc...) Do I need anything else or am I looking good?

Thanks in advance
 
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basic repair kit?
cleaning stuff and lube?
notebook?
A kid/wife who shoots for free?
Got a second appropriate .22?

Have fun, get everything you can out of it, and I'm hoping to hear a report afterwards ... I've been fighting to get my schedule and the nearest Appleseed's to line up this year ever since I ran into posterboy at a gunshow in spring.
 
Tube fed or clip fed .22? If tube fed... got yerself some speed loaders made up? One of the fellers on MarlinOwners suggested 1/2 Pex tubing cut to length, plugged on one end and a removable cap/plug for the other end.

How's 'bout a bi-pod?
Good hat?
10 x 10 canopy for shade/rain?
Camp chair?

Have fun and lookin' forward to the debriefing afterwards.
 
Tube fed or clip fed .22? If tube fed... got yerself some speed loaders made up? One of the fellers on MarlinOwners suggested 1/2 Pex tubing cut to length, plugged on one end and a removable cap/plug for the other end.

How's 'bout a bi-pod?
Good hat?
10 x 10 canopy for shade/rain?
Camp chair?

Have fun and lookin' forward to the debriefing afterwards.

Those long tubes that convenience stores use for those large Pixie Stix work great for a speed loader component too. Just rinse them out first.
 
Don't rely on bulk .22 ammo. Spend a little more and take something more reliable, like CCI MiniMags or better still, CCI Standard Velocity. Malfunctions can eat your lunch on the 55 and 65 second drills. And don't count on even getting the .308 out of your vehicle until after ya get the patch. Which could be a while. ;)
 
I wear elbow and knee pads, I'm ALWAYS glad I wear them! Really high level sun screen, rain gear if you’re expecting any precipitation. A cooler of waters, snacks both sweet and salty. Sani-wipes if theres no running water to wash up after a long day. Long sleeve shirt to keep the sun off your arms and a bandana for your neck. Insect repellent if you’re laying the mat on grass. Personally I'd leave the Remington home unless you wanna show it off. If your missing anything, lots of people are happy to lend ya stuff. If your gear functions right, I promise you will have fun!
 
Hadmanysons,

Looks like the highlights have been hit. Looking at the weather, if you have a EZUP or popup, I'd definitely bring it. While we have AC'd classrooms, we'll be on an uncovered range for the majority of the day. In addition to water, I'd suggest bring some sports drinks that you like as well. Also, there's no place close for lunch, so pack it in and we'll break for lunch in the AC. :)

As mentioned, leave the bi-pod, bring the sling, and definitely bring your tools/repair kit. Appleseeds have a way of findings all the bugs in people's equipment :)

If you take the suggestions above as well as at the Appleseed preparation link, you shouldn't be lacking.

I'm MisterAnderson on the forums if you are over there. See you this weekend!
 
Yes, absolutely do not forget the elbow pads. I also took a carpet remnant to put under my shooting mat and was glad I did. A folding chair is a good idea too, as is sunblock and insect repellent. I toted some ticks home, despite the cool weather. Take a pad for notes.

Nothing wrong with bulk ammo as long as your rifle is reliable with it.

The most important thing is an open mind and willingness to learn. You may not get your patch but you will learn something.
 
Hadmanysons,

Looks like the highlights have been hit. Looking at the weather, if you have a EZUP or popup, I'd definitely bring it. While we have AC'd classrooms, we'll be on an uncovered range for the majority of the day. In addition to water, I'd suggest bring some sports drinks that you like as well. Also, there's no place close for lunch, so pack it in and we'll break for lunch in the AC. :)

As mentioned, leave the bi-pod, bring the sling, and definitely bring your tools/repair kit. Appleseeds have a way of findings all the bugs in people's equipment :)

If you take the suggestions above as well as at the Appleseed preparation link, you shouldn't be lacking.

I'm MisterAnderson on the forums if you are over there. See you this weekend!
Ok, I'll bite... why do you folks dislike a bi-pod for the prone shooting? I'm not offended, curious about the perspective you have on it.
 
why do you folks dislike a bi-pod for the prone shooting?
Appleseed is about learning the fundamentals of basic marksmanship, not a chance to use a crutch.

Bipods are great for a dedicated long-range gun, but sort of a waste on an all-purpose one.
 
well this post inspired me to look up the next appleseed shoot near me. i was thrilled to find out it was in about 3 weeks!

oh, but it's sold out.....

i was so close! next time around i guess.
 
Don't rely on bulk .22 ammo. Spend a little more and take something more reliable, like CCI MiniMags or better still, CCI Standard Velocity. Malfunctions can eat your lunch on the 55 and 65 second drills. And don't count on even getting the .308 out of your vehicle until after ya get the patch. Which could be a while. ;)
definitely do not rely on bulk ammo, while great for plinking, mistakes will cost you the patch

also, watch out that you do not use the magazine as a stability guide
 
A box of .22 snap caps for ball and dummy drills is cheap insurance for your firing pin, and will make you popular with the other 22 shooters.
 
Definitely elbow pads. I'd also take more than two mags for the AR, and probably another hundred rounds of ammo for it. I'd also bring any necessary sight adjustment tools, as well as cleaning supplies and a Bore Snake. Oh, and a hat and sunscreen...and beef jerky. :) Have fun!
 
You do not need match ammo and target rifle to earn the Rifleman patch. Cheap bulk ammo and a stock Ruger 10/22 carbine will do it just fine, I know that for a fact because that's what I used to shoot a 220, a 221, and a 235 to earn my patch. The fundamentals are far more important than your equipment.
 
Appleseed...

Had Many Sons--Good on you, going to an Appleseed event--more rifle owners should go. Most people who show up discover that they aren't as good a shots as they thought, and Appleseed teaches you how to become better. In addition to a dose of "why we need riflemen."

Second all the motions about ELBOW PADS--you might even want to put a soft bandage beneath the pads. Spending hours and hours in the prone position plays hob with elbows that aren't used to it!

You don't want just ANY sling, either. You want a military-style sling. The Appleseed website can give you the particulars. The sling is used to tighten the rifle to your body while shooting, not just for hauling the rifle around while hiking. I like the military leather sling, but I'm a traditionalist. The web sling works fine also. But you need the sling specified by Appleseed.

Second the motion on more .223 ammo. And if you get to use the .308, you'll need a lot more than 40 rds for that as well. And as to .22 ammo, you want whatever yr .22 rifle likes, not just the most expensive ammo.
(Example: I have a very high-falutin' target .22, which most likes Remington Target ammo made by Eley. Its second-most-favorite, darn near as accurate, is Federal bulk-pack!! Honest. Guess which I practice with.)

Anyhow, good on you for going, good luck there, and PLEASE give us an after-action report!
 
Appleseed is about learning the fundamentals of basic marksmanship, not a chance to use a crutch.

Bipods are great for a dedicated long-range gun, but sort of a waste on an all-purpose one.
Interesting concept I guess... I could see how a sling might be perceived as a "crutch" too then. A stability tool is a stability tool. I'm lookin' forward to givin' my first apple seed a go (one of these days). I'm always up for a chance to learn sumpin'.
 
Ok, I'll bite... why do you folks dislike a bi-pod for the prone shooting? I'm not offended, curious about the perspective you have on it.

Excellent question! It's not about dislike but rather that the Appleseed Project is about the fundamentals of shooting.

  • Rack grade rifle
  • Iron sights (scopes are just fine, but recommend you know how do use irons)
  • Surplus ammo
  • GI sling
  • Solid field positions
  • 4 MOA target.

We say that shooting a surplus rifle with iron sights and sling is like driving a manual transmission car and that everone should know how to do that. :) Besides, Adding devices to the rifles gets away from one of our mantras:

'Simplicity and precision in all things.'

Come on out, I think you'll find that we're the friendly sort :D
 
Most shooters, myself included, for myriad reasons, have become far too dependent upon the shooting bench. Appleseed teaches and stresses traditional riflery. No rest is allowed except that which you can produce with your own body and a proper sling. The point is to build skill, not just make the patch by whatever means (and physical crutches) necessary. You can use a sling anywhere, the bipod is only good in certain specific situations and I've never been able to utilize one in the field. What do you do when you need to shoot accurately at long distance but cannot use the bipod you've been using as a crutch for all your shooting?

I also use a leather 1907 National Match sling and much prefer it over the GI web sling.

Again, bulk ammo is fine if your rifle is accurate and reliable with it. My rifle obviously is more accurate with Wolf MT but it shoots well with Federal bulk and I qualified three times with a high score of 242 with the stuff. The only reliability issues I had were rifle-related that has since been corrected.
 
Excellent question! It's not about dislike but rather that the Appleseed Project is about the fundamentals of shooting.

  • Rack grade rifle
  • Iron sights (scopes are just fine, but recommend you know how do use irons)
  • Surplus ammo
  • GI sling
  • Solid field positions
  • 4 MOA target.

We say that shooting a surplus rifle with iron sights and sling is like driving a manual transmission car and that everone should know how to do that. :) Besides, Adding devices to the rifles gets away from one of our mantras:

'Simplicity and precision in all things.'

Come on out, I think you'll find that we're the friendly sort :D
Ok... that makes sense... and agree with the analogy. Thanks for the clarification. I fully intend to do so.
 
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