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Goody Guns... or "Wow, JPFO is out there this time..."

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Jorg Nysgerrig, Oct 6, 2007.

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  1. Jorg Nysgerrig

    Jorg Nysgerrig Member

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    http://www.goodyguns.com/

    I have no idea how anyone can take these guys seriously. I can only imagine conversation that lead to this idea.

    "So, what do you think we should do about the idea that images of guns are offensive to society?"
    "Hm, perhaps we could educate people not to be afraid of the item."
    "Not bad, but I'm hoping for something with a little more punch"
    "Ok, how about we try to dispel that idea that guns represent violence and instead promote them as symbol of self-reliance and freedom."
    "Ooo, that is good. But let's try thinking outside the box a bit more."
    "How about a cookie cutter than allows you to make sugar cookies for kids in the shape of a gun."
    "BRILLIANT!"
    "Wait, what? No no, I was kidding... I mean, that would be as silly as thinking a gun-shaped grilled cheese sandwich could be used to promote the right to keep and bear arms."
    "Gun-shaped grilled cheese sandwiches, BRILLIANT!"
    "Wait, so you want to make gun-shaped food items for kids to put in their mouth. That seems kind of strange. I mean, what mother would want her little angels putting the barrel of a gun shaped cookie in their mouth. That's quite a bit more disturbing than systematically dismember gingerbread men."
    "Well, we tell them to eat it from the back end and make sure they don't put the muzzle of the gun cookie at anyone."
    "..."
    "What? It's a great idea! We'll do a whole campaign around the idea. Why are you looking at me like that?"
    "I'm waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out and tell me I'm on Punk'd."


    If it wasn't linked off the JPFO main page, I would think it was satire. Here we are with huge things going on between Heller, upcoming elections, HR 2640, California's microstamping bill, etc, and this is what JPFO gives us.

    Part of me wants to believe that it was intended as some kind of comic-relief, but a larger part of me thinks JPFO considers this an important project.

    Here's a link to the press release: http://www.jpfo.org/alert20071003.htm

    This is probably my favorite part.
    Goody Guns can be used to teach kids elementary gun safety -- eat your Goody Gun from the back end; never point the muzzle at yourself or anbody else

    Then again, maybe I'm wrong in thinking the best way to teach kids about guns and gun ownership is to get them involved shooting, not have them bake cookies.

    I'm all for the notion of removing the fetishistic mystique of guns in an attempt to make gun ownership seem as mundane as anything else, but I sure don't see this taking us there.
     
  2. Big45

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    I don't think it is a good idea.
     
  3. Zundfolge

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    Thats awesome ... if I had a kid I'd stamp their sandwiches just to see if they get expelled from school.

    So is it kosher to use that with a ham sandwich?

    My only problem is they look too much like a Hipoint.
     
  4. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    See, you say that as a joke, but click on their recipe section. They have both kosher and non-kosher cookies. ;)
     
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    What has more calories the 9mm or the .45?
     
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    The proper answer to Question 11, C, f on ATF Forum 4473 is "No," but many gun owners seem to disagree. :)
     
  7. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Question 11 on 4473: If you are not a citizen of the United States, what is your INS-issued alien number or admission number.

    :confused:
     
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    Oookay.

    Any chance they sell them to the UK? I mean, I don't think we're so far gone that we'd ban that (though to be frank, I have my doubts).
     
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    When the antis see this, it'll just reinforce the stereotype that we're a bunch of wackos. I sincerely hope this program gets nixed.

    Ed
     
  10. Regolith

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    As a novelty item: Sure, why the hell not.

    As an educational tool: :scrutiny: Nope, not seeing it.
     
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    I hear the UN is already trying to ban sales of these to Africa and Asia.
     
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    Seems relatively pointless other than getting the anti's all worked up. That can be fun sometimes, as long as they don't take it seriously, as it looks like they might be, it seems harmless.
     
  13. Wes Janson

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    I'm sorry, but that whole idea is wrong for so many different reasons. From the direct literal level, to the political arena, it's the sort of thing they can only be excused for on 04/01. JPFO's credibility just jumped out a window, as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    Could someone please explain to me why it's wrong to have a cookie cutter in a gun shape? It's an ordinary, everyday shape to make something.

    I don't see the harm, but I also don't see the big deal in selling them.
     
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    hmmm...

    Well, okay, but not during Passover.

    No religious reason--you just can't use a cookie cutter on matzoh.

    This isn't the dumbest idea I've ever seen--that would be edible underwear--but it's in the top ten.

    I can see taking these to a school bake sale and getting taken away in a rubber truck by men with butterfly nets.

    What's next? Gun-shaped Popsicle trays?

    (...something tells me I shouldn't have thought of that...)
     
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    Somewhere, there's a very, very, very stoned guy wearing a yarmulke... Or however the heck it's spelled...
     
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    The underlying idea is apparently to try to find a way to kickstart the remains of the "gun culture". Their approach may be a bit odd, but the idea sure seems sound.

    I go about this by inviting friends out to shoot. It's neat to see how someone's opinion changes in favor of the firearm when they actually use one for the first time.
     
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    A little theater of the absurd, performed by those with serious intent, isn't the worst thing for a cause. The JPFO is very hard core RKBA, but at least they are having some fun.

    I bet it would be a good pancake form as well--my kids get tired of stars and pooh bear heads.
     
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    Very cool. My nephews will love it.:)
     
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    In what way is the 'gun culture' not stronger today than ever before?

    There may be restrictions that didn't exist once upon a time: the pre-86 years for full auto and such - but shooting as a hobby/sport/self-defense or martial art is bigger today than in the past.

    We have no national 'assault weapon' ban.
    EBRs are far more popular than ever.
    Every major gun manufacturer is in good financial health and generally putting out a good product.
    The 'party of gun control' has loudly backed away from the issue as a rallying cry, realizing it costs them votes and that a not-insignificant of their regular supporters own guns.

    Ammo prices aside - and that's a function of war and consumer demand (ie lots of shooters) - the 'gun culture' and gun industry have never been healthier.
     
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    Honestly, If yall are freaking out over a cookie cutter because of it's shape you are just as bad as the antis. I want one or two for fun and excitement. Serving "Glock Steaks" at a party is a great way to start a gun conversation without mentioning dead crooks or a new revolution. I think it's a great idea and more than a little tongue in cheek. If the liberals don't like it they can't have any of my cookies.
     
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    I love it!! Glad I sent them my dues check.

    John
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    I think they should teach the M16A2 and the M9 in HIGH SCHOOL!

    How much worthless stuff did we learn in school? Why don't we teach self defense, marksmanship and combat mind set? I'm not trying to have teen agers dig in fighting possitions and emplace machine guns... I'm just looking for a hardened society, were the reasons and sacrifices that create a "fighting man" are made clear to everyone, everyone should be able to pick up a rifle and defend them selves... it would be a sad day if we were ever attacked on our soil, if our super power military was lost.
     
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