Greatest Battle Rifle Ever

[taprackbang]

Great! I got you all to take a look.

Greatest Rifle, in my opinion of course. I am aware that many will disagree with that, but I shoot well with mine and it feels good. I have grown rather 'attached' to my PTR 91F and wanted to post some target results for you guys. This was all perfomed with iron sights at 50 and 100 yards repectively.

Also I custom built my own CETME furniture for my PTR. Have some pics included too.

Enjoy!

To Dilute a battle rifle is to dilute it's purpose, and diluting a man's tools invariably dilutes the man..

 

[paratroop23]

I don't know if it's the greatest, but the G3 type rifle is pretty damn good! I love my PTR91KPF, and I'm still pretty salty that this particular rifle was left off the Military Channels "Top Ten" Battle Rifles. It wasn't even mentioned, and it was/is widely used throughout the world!

It could have easily replaced the Steyr Aug!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UVsWgSX8dM

 

[ftierson]

Although the FAL and G3 are fine weapons, the greatest battle rifle ever is the M1 Garand.

It doesn't even require much discussion...



Forrest

 

[tn-dave]

I gotta agree: M1 Garand

 

[Ash]

As far as general issue goes, the M1 was far superior to every other rifle carried by every other nation at the time. However, I would say the Spencer was far greater than the 1853 Enfield or the Springfield. A repeating cartridge-fired weapon compared with a muzzle-loading percussion rifle is a far greater difference than a semi-automatic repeating rifle versus bolt action repeating rifles. A single soldier armed with a Spencer had firepower equal to 5 or 10 or more muzzle-loaders.

Ash

 

[Loomis]

M1 garand? Please. THat rifle was used in only one war by only one country. That's hardly number one material

 

[JImbothefiveth]

M1 garand? Please. THat rifle was used in only one war by only one country. That's hardly number one material

I thought it was also used in Korea, and in parts of Vietnam.

P.S.: Thank you vets!

 

[Jason_G]

THat rifle was used in only one war by only one country.

You forgetting Korea?

Jason

 

[Meowhead]

garand garand garand

So what exactly makes a semiauto .30-06 with capacity eight and awkward reloading better than, say, a semi- or select-fire .308 loaded from 20-round magazines?

 

[grendelbane]

THat rifle was used in only one war by only one country.

This statement is not anywhere near correct. The Garand was used in WWII and the Korean conflict. It also saw some service in Viet Nam. Many countries have used the Garand besides the US, including, but not limited to, Denmark, Greece, South Korea, Italy, Turkey, and Ethiopia.

I am sure that I left some countries out.

 

[Ash]

It was used by only one nation (but copied by the Japanese) in WWII, but it was used by numerous nations after the war. In any case, one cannot seriously use that as a criterion to condemn it. Indeed, that is a lousy reason to. After all, the greatest tank in the world in 1995 was the M1 Abrams. Yet, that tank was used by only one nation in the world.

The M1 was a dead-end design (okay, almost dead end as it did spawn two offspring) but when compared with every other rifle fielded during WWII, there is no comparison.

Ash

 

[Gator]

Greatest ever? M1 Garand, hands down. Do you doubt General Geo. S. Patton?

You can also add Australia, Austria, Cambodia, Canada, West Germany, Haiti, Japan, Norway, Philippines, Thailand, and Columbia to "gendelbane's" list.

 

[ftierson]

Originally posted by Loomis
M1 garand? Please. THat rifle was used in only one war by only one country. That's hardly number one material

Thanks for the chuckle, Loomis...

I needed it...



Forrest

 

[High Planes Drifter]

M1 garand? Please. THat rifle was used in only one war by only one country. That's hardly number one material

Son, put down the bong.

 

[JImbothefiveth]

I think the m-14 is serious competition for the garand. Don't know enough to comment on the CETME, FAL, or g3.

 

[Chuck Spears]

I'll bet a twenty spot that everyone who votes Garand is old enough to qualify for AARP and Social Security.

 

[Chuck Spears]

We all know that the SCAR is going to take the title.

 

[TimboKhan]

M1 garand? Please. THat rifle was used in only one war by only one country. That's hardly number one material

Sigh. Well, there is a reason they call it "The Forgotten War", I guess.

I think the Garand is pretty sweet, but it's all a tad subjective. I like my Springfield 03-A3 quite a bit, but I also really, really like Swedish Mausers. The more I shoot those old Swedes, the more I like them.

In terms of just pure ruggedness, you can't skip the Mosin-Nagant. I know that they aren't anywhere near as accurate as some of the other rifles you can think of, and I know that they have their faults, but I can't think of a rifle that is more purely rugged and willing to take abuse than the Nagant.

 

[ftierson]

Originally posted by Chuck Spears
I'll bet a twenty spot that everyone who votes Garand is old enough to qualify for AARP and Social Security.

What are you, an age bigot...?



(Please note that, by the use of the smilie face here, I'm indicating that this comment was meant humorously. Unfortunately, certain types of humor don't come across well in this communication format).

I probably didn't have to add the disclaimer, but better safe than sorry...

Forrest
OK, so I admit that I'm old...

 

[Chuck Spears]

Maybe the question should be changed to "greatest battle rifle for its time." How in the world could anybody in their right mind call the Garand the "greatest battle rifle ever?" If it is the greatest ever then how come nobody is using it right now other than some backwoods Mississippi county militia? What makes the Garand better than our current models? It's low capacity? Its outdated feeding system? The heavier materials it uses? Fill me in here. I'm lost.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

I still have to say FAL. But then, I don't own a Garand and would still like to.

 

[Nolo]

The greatest MBR of all time, I think, is the Enfield.
Why?
Because it pushes the limit of what a bolt-gun is capable of.
When you have a boltie that can go toe-to-toe with a Garand and keep the greatest empire in the world from pursuing newer technology for 40-50 years, you know you've got a winner.
Doesn't hurt that I actually own one, either...

 

[Chuck Spears]

What are you, an age bigot...?



(Please note that, by the use of the smilie face here, I'm indicating that this comment was meant humorously. Unfortunately, certain types of humor don't come across well in this communication format).

I probably didn't have to add the disclaimer, but better safe than sorry...

Forrest
OK, so I admit that I'm old...

Nothing wrong with being old. But you still owe me twenty bucks.

 

[Tyris]

Garand doesnt even have a box mag or a pistol grip.
Garand = Fail.

I vote for the FAL.

-T

 

[Chuck Spears]

Come on, now folks are starting with the bolt actions. The greatest battle rifle ever is a bolt action? I respectfully disagree with you guys and your nostalgic ways. Our troops are delighted that you don't run the armory though.