Gun Oops in TV Show '24'

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Ok so I just picked up the 5th season of the show 24, which if you haven't seen it you really should, and being a nitpicker when it comes to guns in tv and movies i saw a really big one that i just had to share.

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Jack is threatening to shoot a suspect and this is the close up when he's giving the 3 count until he's threatening to shoot her. OOOOOPS. Guess its just proof that Glocks have bad failure to feed problems :neener: KIDDING!!! I dont want to start a flame threat, just trying to have a little fun. Anyone else have any other really obvious gun oops in tv or movies?
 
Pretty much every movie or show with guns in it has some sort of screw up but my question is why in movies do the slides never open after a pistol runs out of ammo. the person is always so surprised they are out of ammo but almost every pistol that i know of keeps the slide open on the last shot, but rarely happens in movies.
 
I see slides locked back all the time. Usually followed by the sound of a couple more shots. Never fails, the very next shot has them firing again without a reload. I really want one of those guns!
 
Funny. My wife picked up the series over the weekend. I noticed this scene too. When I saw it I chuckled to myself as I thought of myself jumping up off the couch and saying oh! oh! I should post this at thr. Great minds think alike :)
 
I remember that episode and laughing at the TV. It looks like she's about to bust up laughing "way to put it into battery Bauer!"
You'd think with such a simple shot they'd redo that part of the scene.
One thing I like in movies/TV is how autos always seem to make that triple click of a colt SAA when they point it at somebody to let them know they mean business!
 
But... But... that's a Glock! Those can't misfeed! It's completely and utterly impossible! :p

Yeah, you see stupid stuff like that in TV and movies all too frequently. It just makes you appreciate it even more when they get it right.

Wes
 
24 is the biggest bs show around. A very close second to CSI.

Oh they got the president.... call Jack Bauer...... what? they got a whole army.... tanks, subs, nukes... and they got the football? Just call Jack


Can't expect much "realism" from those shows.
 
I think this may be done on purpose. A while back there was an actor killed by a live round making it into a gun that was suppose to have blanks in it. I am guessing that for scenes where a gun is actually touching or in super close proximity to somebody they may err on the side of caution. IE Muzzle flashes still hurt like hell.

Maybe I am making excuses because I LOVE 24 I think its brilliant I dont care that its drama. Its not suppose to be a documentery. I watch star wars too but dont own an x-wing (yet)
 
While I dont watch it religiously, I do enjoy the show when I see it.

My real beef with 24 is that every season seems to be the same thing, over and over and over and over again. To the point of being rediculous. Again, maybe because I dont watch is every single week, but there just doesnt seem to be anything significantly different from season 2 on. Always some kind of terrorist mastermind (whose face you dont see until the end), with a "main henchman" who jack gets only to find that he is a pawn in the grand scheme of things.

Guess most of TV is the same way, but I just always wonder why people find the show so brilliant.
 
Last night on CSI Miami, Emily Proctor's character (she's what I watch it for) went into a n interogation room to talk to a 3 time lifer, gang leader. As she entered, she handed the deputy outside the room her service weapon, a Smith 9mm auto, which had the hammer back on and the deputy shoved it down the front of his pants under his Sam Brown hahaha, not very fond of the jewels is he:what:
 
I think this may be done on purpose. A while back there was an actor killed by a live round making it into a gun that was suppose to have blanks in it. I am guessing that for scenes where a gun is actually touching or in super close proximity to somebody they may err on the side of caution. IE Muzzle flashes still hurt like hell.

That was Brandon Lee:
Wikipedia said:
Because the movie's second unit team were running behind schedule, it was decided that dummy cartridges — bullets that outwardly appear to be functional, but contain no gunpowder — would be made from real cartridges, which had been brought to the set, earlier in production. Bruce Merlin, an effects technician, dismantled the live cartridges by removing the bullets, emptying out the gunpowder, detonating the primer, and reinserting the bullets. This rendered the cartridges inoperative, but realistic in appearance. Merlin and his propmaster, Daniel Kuttner, took initiative to create some blanks by removing live cartridges, and replacing the gunpowder with firework powder; the bullets were not reinserted.

Later, a cartridge with only a primer and a bullet, was fired in a pistol; this caused the bullet to lodge in the forcing cone of the revolver. When the first unit used this gun to shoot the death scene, the chamber was loaded with blanks which had no bullets. However, there was still the bullet in the barrel, which was propelled out by the blank cartridge's explosion. Consequently, Lee was shot and severely wounded, as cameras were rolling at the Carolco Studios in Wilmington, North Carolina. Seconds later, director Alex Proyas stopped the scene, but Lee remained on the floor. Stuntman (and Lee's friend) Jeff Imada ran over to him with a paramedic, and discovered a thin slit, an inch below to the right of his navel; by this time, Lee had slipped into unconsciousness, and was rushed to the hospital where doctors discovered that a bullet was the cause of the damage. They fought for five hours in an attempt to save him, but at 1:04 PM he was pronounced dead at the age of 28.

Tragic
 
It looks like there's a cartridge (obviously a blank or dummy) trying to get into the chamber. In either case (live cartridge or blank) that would be very dangerous with the gun so close to the womans face. I thought they were more careful than that?
 
Yes, it does look like a cartridge is stuck, although it looks backwards. Here's the same picture, but brightened. From what it looks, you can see the extractor groove on the case.
 

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A little off the original topic but following along with reasons not to have the slide forward in firing position,,,,,,,,,,,,
A number of years ago (15-20 maybe more) an actor was clowning around between shots, no pun intended, and placed a loaded (with blanks) revolver against his temple and fired the weapon. The resulting blast killed him. I don't recall if he died right away or if he was clinicly brain dead and removed from life support later on.
It was a stupid, dumb and preventable situation caused by reckless handling of a weapon.
I cannot at this time post a source to document this, it did happen and was in the news, maybe someone can help me find a record of this happening.

Ah ha, found it, ………… Jon-Erik Hexum

Sadly there are more.
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Actor Jon-Erik Hexum killed himself with a gun that was verifiably loaded with blanks. He put it to his head and pulled the trigger. ...www.ravnwood.com/archives/001949.php - 22k - Cached - Similar pages
 
They appear to have a dummy cartridge in -- BACKWARDS! as Freedomv stated.
Why they would do that in a TV show... the should have the gun in battery. Empty! It wouldn't even have to be a real gun, just a vacuformed or resin dummy gun.
The one redeeming thing about 24 is it's pacing. It moves so fast it makes pretty good brain candy.
Buit I still haven't gotten over them shooting Air Force 1 down with a F-117 Stealth Fighter........Hehehe

Edit: Jon- Erik Hexum dies in the mid 1980's on a spy show called "COVER UP." He lingered for awhile before he died; the overpressure from the blank gave him a serious concussion (cracked his skull)
 
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24 Not Real?

24 is not Real?
I think we all know it is not real, but it is still my favorite show.

Sicario103 "24 is the biggest bs show around."

I personally know a former FBI agent who does not like the show because more than one of the episodes are based on true stories and about real people he knew or knows. There is usually some truth in many of those shows, they are all however dramatized or they wouldn't be very fun to watch. I would guess the average Joe would never notice the "opps" only the gun guys who know how its done or who always check out what the characters are carrying.
I think if we took more of the "Jack Bauer" approach to fighting terrorism, that is a little 'gentle" persuasion are country would be safer. Just my .02 cents.
 
Keifer Sutherland said in an interview once that an actual agent he shared a ski lift with said he had a problem with the show, cause Jack Bauer solves problems so much faster than a real life agent could, and it was making the agents mom scold him because he didn't get results like Jack Bauer does.


as for most amusing firearms oops, there was a scene in the show 'Lost' in which a character makes the hammer cocking motion on a Glock, and the Colt SAA cocking sound it heard. i laughed for a while, seeing someone cock the hammer on a gun that does not have an external hammer to be cocked. in another episode, another character spins the open cylinder on a S&W snubbie, and it goes "click-click-click-click-click".

and in "Firefly", they seemed to think that putting scope rails on guns makes them futuristic, just a rail, no scope.
 
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