Really bad TV and movie gun handling

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Just watched parts of Big Red One. My goodness that was so bad I couldn't watch more than a few minutes.

Also not a fan of John Wayne stuff - his Special Forces movie was just full of bad gun handling, as are his cowbow films.

The TV show 24 is just filled with silliness.

What are some you would recommend against so others don't waste time and money?
 
I don't watch much TV, but when someone has a gun I try to see where their trigger finger is -- unless they have a double-action revolver. With those, I watch for them to needlessly cock the hammer, usually for dramatic effect.

I've actually seen a few with their finger along the slide instead of in the trigger guard.
 
I just watch 'em for overall entertainment and don't worry about it.

I agree with this.Although I do find it funny that everytime someone pulls a glock out on TV or in the movies there is a sound effect of a hammer cocking.
 
Desperado, with Antonio Banderas. From a professional standpoint, his gun handling was theatrical, and would have been very inneffective. From an entertainment standpoint, it was very stylish. Does that make sense?
 
You'd probably have better luck looking for movies with GOOD gun handling than movies with bad.

However, some people do forget that if the character is inexperienced with guns, he shouldn't be doing everything right in the first place. I thought Death Sentence with Kevin Bacon did a good job of this. The gang bangers handled guns as such, and the main character, while not flawless, was getting to know the use of his guns and practicing with them to figure out how they work.


As far as characters that are to be professionals, I think tom cruze did a good job in collateral. A few other off the top of my head are Quiggly Down Under (he even blows the unspent powder out of his sharps), tears of the sun, 16 blocks with Bruce Willis, The Hurt Locker, Black Hawk Down, Blood Diamond,
 
There was that one scene in the Outlaw Josey Wales where Clint Eastwood flipped two pistols that he held by the barrels to kill two bad guys, I'd like to learn that trick. :D
 
I was watching CSI Los Angles the other night, and of course there was a big gun fight.

Hot chick has a SIG, shoots a double tap, hammer remains uncocked.
Camera angle changes to the other side of her, and it's cocked, then it isn't, then it is, then it isn't.
Then she peeks around a corner and racks the slide to load it without replacing the mag. And it's not cocked again!!

I was having such a good time watching the SIG's magic hammer, I forgot to watch the hot chick!

rc
 
Talk about bad gun handling, what about movies where they have a Glock in their hand and the next angle they have a Sig.
 
I was watching mythbusters the other night. For demonstration purposes, Adam was aiming a 1911 directly at the camera. After the demonstration, he began to walk away but stopped and turned back to the camera. He made a point to say that a replica gun was used for the demonstration because he wouldn't point a real gun at his camera man..

Gun safety is creeping into Hollywood..
 
I usually mildly annoyed/amused by the miracle gun that never runs out of ammo, or the bolt action/lever action that continues to fire w/o being worked.

However, I am looking to be entertained and realism isn't necessary (unless it's a documentary). I more concerned about writing, acting, story, and humor.
 
Yea!

But you gotta admit if you are a gun guy at all, if gives you pause hearing the safety click off and the slide rack every time a Revolver is shown in the scene.

I don't care how good the story is, it just ruins it for me.

BTW: Been seeing some good period gunhandling and nice old guns on HBO's Boardwalk Empire every Sunday night. (not necessarly safe gun handling, but period correct in those days)

rc
 
"shooter" in the movie, he(the sniper) says that the 1 mile shot will take 6 or 7 seconds to get there. The whole movie is about him and his great skill at shooting...come on... at least get the most important gun fact in the whole movie right!
 
...the miracle gun that never runs out of ammo...

The tech spex on the AK47 says it fires 600 rounds per minute, so they have to show it firing 600 rounds in one minute, from a 30 round magazine, because they can fire 600 rounds per minute. The military manual says so.

I am not surpised by bad TV and movie handling. I am surprised by movies like "Way of the Gun" where the guy with a .45 1911 fires seven rounds, the slide locks back, and he has to swap magazines. That surprised me.
 
In "Dawn of th Dead" Ving Rhames actually demonstrates proper firearms handling keeping his finger above or outside of the trigger guard in every scene except shooting sequences. However, his cast mates constantly sweep eachother and one scene a girl shoots 9 rounds from a revolver and if you stop the movie you can see that it has no hole for the bore and cylinder has no holes for shells. funny to watch though.
 
I expect them to get it wrong and it doesn't really bother me -- much. I am impressed when they get it right (especially trigger control and muzzle control.)
 
It's funny when in the middle of a gunfight someone shucks a shell into their shotgun before one last charge....:D
 
I think the walking dead tv show on amc is very good. Except for the first episode where they turned the safety off on a glock...
 
Speaking of such, did you see tonight's "Walking Dead"?


They talk about gun safety and practice shooting safely. Check it out.
 
My wife absolutely refuses to sit with me and watch any TV show or movies on TV that have guns because I always complain about bad handling or things like racking a shotgun during a fight. Come on Hollywood, TRY to get it right!! :cuss:
 
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