Gun pictures with items in the trigger area

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"it is a bad example of gun safety"

How? The gun is just sitting there. I don't get it.

Are you concerned about trigger locks, too?

John
 
I think it looks distracting and detracts from the shot. Put the item *behind* the trigger and it might be less distracting, I dunno.
 
Obviously the basic rules of gun safety come into play here, but if the chamber and magazine is inspected and made sure empty, then I don't mind.

The trigger has to be PULLED.
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As stated above, the trigger has to be pulled with a HUMAN finger, now I'm sure if the gun was being knocked around and had a light trigger, then it may go off. But I am still pretty sure that a sharpie isn't going to flex and pull the trigger at will.
 
Gun safety is paramount but some guys take it too far.

How are you supposed to perform maintenance on a gun; Test the trigger of one before purchasing; Practice your draw at home; Carry a holstered weapon without breaking one of the four rules?
 
A bit picky I'd say. If you check the chamber/cylinder and it's not loaded, then it's not loaded so it would be a miracle of physics for it to go off. But personally I don't like the photos of handguns with something stuck in the trigger guard. Asthetically not pleasing to the eye.
 
The Four Rules are very important to gun safety and I try to follow them religiously, but that being said: what about dry fire practice? It's a massive violation of two of the four rules, but I'm pretty sure we'll all agree that it's a beneficial training aid. As long as you check and double-check and triple-check and then check again, then "fire" in a safe direction, is it an issue?
 
ForumSurfer said:
99.99999995% of gun-shops use acrylic display posts that are inserted through the trigger guard. If the photos are a bad idea, then we should also avoid walking into gun-shops. Come to think of it, all those muzzles are sweeping me while there is an item stuck against the trigger.
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Personally, I have always liked the dealers at gun shows who position all their muzzles pointing towards themselves. (yeah, I know, it's pointing at the dealer behind them and the people beyond the other table, and...)

I've got a dummy .50 BMG cartridge that works great for propping guns up :)
 
Bass Rain said:
The Four Rules are very important to gun safety and I try to follow them religiously, but that being said: what about dry fire practice? It's a massive violation of two of the four rules....
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Again to paraphraze Jeff Cooper:

The only exception is when I have personally checked to see that it is unloaded and it has not left my hand since. This is sometimes necessary for inspection and cleaning and training. If I set it down or hand it to someone else, even for just a second, I will check it again before proceeding. Never take another persons word that a pistol is unloaded.
 
I like RevolvingGarbage's picture of the Iver Johnson. Even more I like the point he's trying to make. If the gun's trigger takes 12-15 lbs of pressure to make it fire, putting a non-animate object in the trigger isn't going to make it go off. Even if the whole weight of the gun were resting on the knife, the gun does not weigh 12-15 pounds (or even close to it).

Personally, I don't care for taking pics with things in the trigger guards because I think it detracts from the point of the picture, the firearm showcased. I don't mind if it's displayed as though it's an everyday object with other things laying round it, but usually the thing IN the trigger guard has to be something completely unrelated or non-associated with the gun to be able to prop it up. (I hope I said that clearly).

I personally try to prop up my guns with something behind them and angle it so the object is invisible in the pic. That's just me though.
 
To me.....This is just silly paranoia. Like earlier posts have stated. Common sense is safety principle number one. Not many things more scary than an overly cautious driver. In my mind. The same principle is applicable to firearms. No matter what complacency is the biggest danger to the human race.
 
So what do you think about concealed carry with a round in the chamber? The gun is usually pointed in a direction that is dangerous to your leg and foot. Pocket carry means that if you sit down among other people the gun will be pointed at others at times.

The four rules are wonderful while at the range, hunting, or doing anything that involves handling the gun and possibly shooting it. Most accidental shootings involve more than one of the rules being broken. Concealed carry, cleaning, dry fire practice, and other activities including taking pictures need to be done with different rules that include redundant safety procedures. We can't make gun ownership safe and still practical with four rules. It is really about common sense and a philosophy of redundant safety.
 
I'm not too worried about being shot by a picture of a gun but the shots with the foreign objects inside the trigger guard are lame photographs in the post-post modern megadorkian style and we all can do better if we try.
 
See, a picture can be taken without anything in the trigger area. No stuffed bears were harmed in the taking of this picture. I did give him a lecture on gun safety before I took the shot.
Mike
 

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A famous name gun writer (a name you would know) once hung his locked and cocked 1911 on a coat hook on the back of a public bathroom stall door…only it was not locked! Somehow the safety got knocked off or maybe he forgot to put it on but whatever the cause the pistol discharged three times as it spun and bounced around on the hook under recoil. Nobody was hit but he supposedly loaded his shorts.
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OK, I'm sorry, but I've gotta call Bravo Sierra on this. I have five 1911's, carry one every day, and I've hung mine on door hooks too. The hook puts pressure on the triggerguard, not the trigger. Not even close to the trigger. Then there's that whole "grip safety" thing that's got to be defeated first. I see no way a 1911 hung on a coat hook is going to fire.
 
Use common sense and everything will be okay. Just because someone wrote down a commonly accepted "rule" for gun handling does not mean that it is dogmatic law. It's a safety guideline that covers most situations. Not the final word for every situation.
 
My gosh...some people are so anal and rigid. It is perfectly acceptible to take a picture of an un-loaded weapon(triple checked...or 4x for some of you) with an item through the trigger guard to prop it up.

Apparently some of you never practice "dry fire"...that would require you putting your finger on the trigger...while pointed in a safe direction, of course.

Common sense needs to be applied in all situations...I think some must lack that ability and thus must adhere extremely rigedly to a set of rules.

I can't believe such trivial things are common topics around here...don't we have any quality things to discuss?
 
I am reminded of this for some reason.


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Don't worry, the gun doesn't feel violated, its used to you sticking things in there.
 
All guns are not always loaded. Once I take the ammunition out of mine, it's unloaded and inert. If your gun is always loaded (as you claim is the rule), then how in the world do you clean it?
 
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