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Gun Show Hysteria

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Titan6, Dec 27, 2008.

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  1. Titan6

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    The following is a true story. The names have been changed to protect the guilty.

    Ahhh, the gun show a place where all things guns are bought and bought and sold. Dreams of greed are made to come true.

    I remember the gun show from a couple a years ago the last time I went. Park up front breeze though in a half hour, pick up some cheap ammo. Try to find a nice piece someone is willing to part with, maybe pickup an accessory or two. Never crowded, not really cheap but the occasional deal.

    Not today. Not anymore. The lot is full. I can see hundreds of cars. There is the obligatory man with the oxygen tank trying to sell discretely on the side of the road about a 1/2 mile out. As I approach the doors there are signs everywhere "NO LOADED WEAPONS, NO EXCEPTIONS". I am open carrying today so I go ahead and comply. I present my carry weapon to be made safe by the impermeable barrier of the cable tie. The nice policeman asks me if I have a magazine. Of course I do and present it as well. He takes the magazine and unloads the rounds in a neat pile with a dozen or so other piles and asks if I have more magazines, I do not.

    The crowd appears to have reached the fire law limit and the only way to view tables is to get in line and move with the flow. But what are on these tables? Table #1 holds a variety of no-name plain jane AR's. I know that the gun shop about two miles down the road has about a dozen of these in stock for $800-1000. I know this because I was there yesterday. Not here... Not Today. Here they start $1200 and go till.... the sky might be the limit. But why are they so much? Let us listen in to the first of many eye opening conversations of the day;

    Dealer: "Yes that is right I was talking to the State Police. They told me that they had approved 40,000 background checks last month. You multiply that by 50 states and that makes 2,000,000 guns sold last month. Of those like 95% of them were assault weapons or high capacity autos.....
    Sucker: Yep Obama is going to ban these guns everybody knows it.
    Dealer: I can run you a check right now.....

    But the line is moving. No time to dally not when every booth is full and guns are everywhere.... on to the next booth. What is this? An M14? Let me sneak a peak. $985! What a steal! Hmmm the barrel seems crooked some how. Something is fishy here.... Ahh Made in China stamped on the receiver. A reworked model of pitiful quality.

    Dealer: "That is fine rifle there."
    Me: "I am sure it is, it just isn't what I am looking for right now."

    Time to move along.... ahh ammo. The prime reason for coming to the gun show. Some Belgian .308 1982 vintage. I had thought this was all gone. One can left.

    Me: "How much?"
    Dealer (with straight face): "$.75 a round"
    Me: (Slightly stunned): You know Walmart sells brand new Federal soft points for $12.50 a box?
    Dealer (Angry): "They do not!"
    Me (Annoyed): "Uhh actually they do, the one right over there" (I point in the general direction of Walmart)
    Dealer (snooty): "Well after taxes it is the same" (Turns back to me)

    I wonder if he was going to break the law and sell it to me tax free. I kind of doubt it. At the same time I don't doubt someone else will buy it either.

    Next we have the bulk seller. He has cases and cases of Wolf but insists that his supply is drying up due to new regulations from Obama. I wonder how Obama is passing regulations as he is only the "President Elect" but then I have never seen a President Elect hold so many press conferences either. He tells another man that he can reload the berdan primed steel case ammo with special equipment. I wonder if the man will buy the special equipment that is needed. A recycling center and steel mill come to mind. These are out of my price range.

    There are some good honest dealers I recognize from years past and many new faces as well. Many of the new dealers have either really cheap hand guns or really expensive ARs, AKs, and SKS. $900 seems high to me for a beat-up AK, $500 for nice condition SKS to much

    One of the more honest dealers has a Colt Python for sale for $985. Normally a bargain in today's market it is missing the original grips that have been replaced with what could be best described as an end of a 2X4 sanded down to fit. It is also loose. Shows a lot of holster wear. Going to have to pass.

    What is this? An old man with a cane and a backpack. He has a sign on his pack "NiB HD High Standard Made 1947 $800". "Never been fired ehh?? Not bad, lets have a look old timer...." He pulls out a badly dinged up High Standard that looks like it has about 5000 rounds through it. Going to have to pass on that one....

    The guns are disappearing off the tables even though they are going for 20-40% over local shop prices. As I head to the car empty handed I wonder about the big crowds at the shows and wonder what keeps the people coming back and buying. Must be the hysteria, that is the only explanation for it.
     
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  2. aka108

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    So you went to the gun show in Tallahassee, FL last weekend to. Guess the above holds true no matter where.
     
  3. BADUNAME37

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    Hysterical!


    Glad I stayed Home!:barf:

    Too bad you had to give up a magazine's worth of ammo to get in. It almost doesn't seem worth it, ay?
     
  4. Lone_Gunman

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    That sounds about how gun shows were down here in Georgia even before Obama was elected.
     
  5. Titan6

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    At times it makes me wish they would close the "gun show loop hole"....
     
  6. armoredman

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    Every gun show I have been to for years is exactly like that, quit going. Too much drama, not enough deals.
     
  7. f4t9r

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    suppy and demand is what drives the shows here of late.
    The demand is so high people are able to make extra money.
    Amazing at how the prices jumped up after the election.
     
  8. I_AM_LEGEND

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    Sounds like its the same everywhere, went to a gunshow here in Cincinnati today, got there about 10:30 hoping to beat the crowd, well, there were probably more people here today than at a Bengals game, the line went out went all the way down the stairs and wrapped back around the building inside, probably waited 20 minutes to get in and once you did it was a madhouse, couldn't hardly walk anywhere... I could only laught when I saw a guy with a 4 year old kid, his wife and two small toddlers in a stroller, I can't imagine he got anywhere fast with that crowd.... Did pick up a WASR for $540 tho, thought it was a deal to the $650-$750 prices online.
     
  9. BADUNAME37

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    Wow, LOOK AT THE NEW M14!

    Just $1,200!:eek:

    Gets it home, out of box!:cool:
    Oh, Made in China.:mad:

    Oh well, (person says) I'll be lucky if I can unload it for $290.:cuss:

    May have to give it away, or get $50 for it at a gun buy-out!
     
  10. BADUNAME37

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    Instead of driving, wasting time, money, etc.

    We could just have an ongoing "Gun Show" thread where we tell the best stories about the show that we really didn't even have to go to! ;)

    That way, we get all the fun and exitement of the real thing while sitting at our keyboards!:eek: No gas burned and no crowds!:)
     
  11. dbarile

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    Excuse me while I ramble.

    I've been to three gun shows in the past 2 months, and only the only the one right after the election was really bad. Lots of people, outrageous prices on black guns and their ammo. Even at that one, one of the booth dealers told me "You should have been at the one at (nearby city), those people were in a panic!" I saw the usually stuff $500 SKS's 75 cent a round ammo etc.

    Maybe the difference is that I just like to look. I'm happy just to browse. I did take comfort from the fact that on the Dec 20th show, the SKS's were not moving that much and the price was 'down' to $350. The $65.00 Nagants were moving faster.

    After looking and dealing I was able to get a good deal on a few things and restock my ammo for a little less than I would find online.

    I will admit that I have long had my 'black' rifle and my SKS, so the pressure to buy is not as high.

    I guess we will see what happens in the new year. I've read a few people here saying that once the Christmas blues sink in we'll see lower AR/SKS prices. That would be nice.

    My point? None really, just my experiences at the shows. I'll be at another one next week.
     
  12. rondog

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    Yeah, gunshows are teh suck, IMO.

    I buy my used guns from individuals in forums like this and I look for ads in those little freebie "Pennysaver"-type newspapers you see everywhere. If you're on a road trip, take some cash and pick a paper every time you can. Never know what you'll run across.
     
  13. Tommygunn

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    Hmmm.
    I attended a gunshow in Huntsville Alabama last week, Dec. 20th.
    Usual stuff ... OK prices except on ARs and "assault rifles."
    I bought a Glock 19 and a Taurus Thunderbolt pump action rifle C45 in .45LC.

    I susally attend gunshows when I can and just look around. It's unusual for me to buy but not unheard of -- in fact it's been getting more usual this past year.

    The Taurus rifle was sort of an "impulse" buy, but I was actually looking for a Glock.
     
  14. notorious

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    I gave up on gunshows in Kalifornistan a few decades ago.

    I can buy ShamWow online and if I want beef jerky, I go to 7-11. As for the hot tubs and timeshares, I'll wait until I win the state lottery.

    The occasional ammo find is not worth the parking fees, time, and aggravation.
     
  15. 308win

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    I have never been to a gun show. Can you beat that; I had no idea that is one of the best decisions I have ever made.
     
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    Oh... also, we can get all the anti-fog treatment for glasses we want at gunshows... which is just soap.

    Gunshows are pretty much about everything but guns now.
     
  17. DJW

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    Titan;
    Really enjoyed your post. Sounds like the Austin, Tx. show this month. What a waste of time. Huge crowds, crazy prices, hysteria all around. Too bad as I used to enjoy cruising with my buddies in the "over the hill gang" and talking about the old days(in the 1960's)when we bought many of the things now displayed on the tables at prices that would gag a maggot. All reloading components now bought on the internet for less even including the hazmat. Plenty of jerky at the stop n rob down the street. Good place to check out the tatoos on the biker chicks though..............thanks again, Dave
     
  18. Millwright

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    Haven't the same experience as others. But then I don't haunt the "big shows" either. Prices at small shows where I'm familiar with the promoters and vendors aren't "outta sight" IME.

    Kinda depends upon what you're looking for is my experience. The "glitz" stuff (ARs, ect ) are pricey. But hunting/target/plinking stuff is still reasonable. Same for accessories.

    I'll know more after the "coronation".... >MW
     
  19. chris in va

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    "NIB".

    Sure, new in box. But it's no longer IN the box.
     
  20. Mike OTDP

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    Hmph.

    The big problem around here is that you have the same dealers hawking the same stuff. OK if you want an AR, 1911, or Glock. Most unsatisfactory if you have exotic tastes.

    Which I do. Very exotic.
     
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    I love the description, "AS NEW" which means it's not....
     
  22. Redneck with a 40

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    Sounds just like the gun show I went to a couple weeks ago, complete joke, blatant price gouging, some people stupid enough to pay, I'm not one of them.:neener:
     
  23. deaconkharma

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    can I surprise people?

    my buddy got a not too bad deal on the KEl tec sub2k at the Jamil gunshow here in November... looked like the only close to reasonable price we saw. It was a little more than his gunstore but they were also backordered. This one was there and available and for 30 or 40 bucks more. NIB he wasnt reamed but he didn't get a bargain either. we figured he came out ok until the flashlight sales guy ripped him a new one. LOL
     
  24. CTW

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    I went to a show a couple weeks ago just for something to do and see how crazy things have gotten. I saw 700 round cans of romanian 7.62x39 selling for 260 bucks, 450 dollar yugo sks and 700 dollar Wasr. One guy was trying to sell a century galil clone for 950. I did see a nice smith corona O3A3 I could have gotten for in the 500 range and that was the only deal I would have considered at the whole show.
     
  25. Old Fuff

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    I didn't make it to any shows this fall, but at the earlier ones I didn't do too bad... :evil:

    Of course I never go to buy guns or ammunition. People who do that are lost from git-go. What I look for is books, and often find used ones a fair prices. Also parts and acessories - have to check out those junk boxes filled with parts, grips, accessories of all kinds, holsters.... Speaking of holsters, I picked up an S.D. Myers/El Paso, TX. - carved leather and lined for a S&W J-frame/3". Paid $15.00 cash money for it. Fortunately the show was filled with young folks that never heard of Sam Myers... ;)

    But I'll admit, if you want a hi-cap plastic pistol or an evil rifle it's probably a good idea to stay home. The economy may be in the dumps, but as long as the president-elect is around those dealers are going to make out like the bandits they are.

    But not from me.... :D
     
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