Gun Show - Parents control your KIDS!!!

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Is it just me or do any of you see this as a bad thing.

I was at the Big E Gun Show in Springfield, MA on Saturday. It was lightly attended at that point as it was pretty hot and sunny finally. As I was walking around I see a Mom and Dad team buying thier three kids airsoft rifles. The youngest looked to be around 10 and the oldest around 14 or so. Once the Dad was finished buying them the kids grab them and start running up and down the isle pretending to shoot each other and anyone else that they pass. The funny thing is that the parents didn't say a word to them. I seen a few people just ignore the kids, but I saw more people who didn't seem at all pleased with this behavior. I personally didn't think it was a very good idea, but I did get a chuckle when one of the kids ran right into a guy who was dressed in his Nazi uniform. The kid was running and looking over his shoulder so the back of his head hit the Nazi guy right in the jewels. :eek: Ok, I got a chuckle out of that.

Now I myself as a kid ran through the woods with friends pretending to kill each other. But I think my Dad would of put the smack down on me if I did that at a gun show. What do you guys think?
 
Our society is not into self control. Look at the guts of the next 10 people you see. If it feels good, do it. Gluttony reigns. Screw the other guy. I can do what I want.
 
For me that is totally out of order.

First - it is showing lack of parental control such that the kids are gonna P off many other folks. There's a time and place for ''larking around'' and that gun show ain't the place!

Second and way more important - it shows a total lack of regard for the rules of safety - any gun - of whatever sort - is NOT to be waved around anywhere!!! Without adequate protection, even BB ''games'' in the woods are dangerous.

This behavior in a gun show, is reckless IMO and I am afraid those kids have yet to be taught proper gun handling - the parents obviously don't care but should - perhaps yet again the common trend we see with ''casual'' parenting. :mad:
 
I would have been smacked! When I was younger I had a bb gun, and used to shoot with my mom (she was alot better than me! :eek: ) and was not allowed to have it unless I was suprivesed, and for good reason. She taught me to respect guns at an early stage, and as I showed more responsibility, I got to use it when I wanted, because she had instilled resposibility in me.

Don't get me started on parants not controlling there kids, even worse when they learn it from there parants :cuss:
 
Our society is not into self control. Look at the guts of the next 10 people you see. If it feels good, do it. Gluttony reigns. Screw the other guy. I can do what I want.
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Yup, absolutely NO fat people control their kids, and all these fit and trim affluent soccer moms in CA letting their kids get into anything and everything while they attend their Pilates workouts are model parents. :rolleyes:


I know when I look down at my reckless gut, I smile evilly remembering how it is a direct physical manifestation of how I "screwed the other guy". :neener:

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There are just too many places where the [ahem] parents let the kids roam free...I NEVER got away with that as a kid.

Under age 10 kids pawing through the rolls, fruits, etc at the buffet... :cuss:

Kids running through the aisles during the movie.... :cuss:

Kids that emit 5 or 6 primal screams per minute in the nicer restaurants... :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
 
Here is a good Idea

I have got an Idea,

Here is a good Idea,
Since we all seem willing to let local governments ban smoking in all public places why don't we see if we can get a Ban on second hand children.
I mean they pose a health risk as the guy in the Nazi outfit can attest to, not to mention I have had several meals out ruined by loud drooling children, I know that some are way over the 85Db safe exposure level as laid out by OSHA rules that state you need hearing protection for those levels.
Many is the time I have been out and about and have been tempted to ask the mother of the slobbering, screaming, food spitting, kicking, fit throwing little bundle of joy at the next table to Please take that out side I am trying to eat here and it is ruining my dining experience.
Hey it works for smoking so why not loud misbehaving children.

DarthBubba :evil:
 
Last gunshow, there was a vendor with his goods on chests that were chest high. He was selling high-end optics. The reason? He said too many kids would come along an play with whatever was sitting on the table, and their parents would do nothing. Said the last time he had a regular table, a kid was playing with, and dropped, a $1400 Swarvoski scope :what:
 
Since we all seem willing to let local governments ban smoking in all public places why don't we see if we can get a Ban on second hand children.
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That would be bigotry! Next thing you know, you'll be saying all children should go to their own schools and not have the right to vote and be subject to different laws and... oh wait... :neener:
 
At shows around here, at least in the larger venues, there is "roving" security that handles just such occurances. I personally have seen instances where people have been ejected for failure to adequately control their own or their children's behavior. Unsupervised children who are running around in the aisles raising Ned, handling merchandise without permission, etc. are corraled and their parent(s) paged over the PA. The whole lot is usually then shown the door.

I'm aware of a couple of instances where vendors have been removed from the premises and banned from future participation: One for removing the tiewrap from his sidearm and reloading it, and one for an ND at his table.

There is also "You broke it-you bought it". The parents of the kid who trashed the Swarovski should've been out $1400. It's their duty to be aware of where their kid is and keep it in line. Says right there on the posted notices and in the print on the back of the admission ticket that "Children under sixteen must be under direct adult supervision at all times." (Emphasis mine).

While I may well be the surly old curmudgeon I've been accused of being when it comes to being subjected to people unable or unwilling to teach their children to behave civilly in public places, it appears that I'm not alone. :D
 
terrible, esp. since Airsoft guns look like the real deal from a moderate distance.

At an IDPA shoot at my local range, an Airsoft dealer set up shop (waaaaay behind the course of fire) and a customer took an AR lookalike from the table, turned and aimed it toward the crowd to "play" with it. I, having just arrived (and not knowing it was Airsoft), yelled "WHOA! STOP! What are you doing??"

I could see a situation where a CCW holder might draw down on someone who was goofing off w/an Airsoft gun. The kids need to be taught better safety, but methinks there's a whole lot more missing in that family beyond just gun safety behavior...
 
I remember getting my first bb gun at like age 12 (parents were and are very anti gun, though I do coerce my father to come with me from time to time to the range)

my dad built a heavy duty trap, taught me safe gun handling and I was only allowed to shoot with safety goggles at the time and under supervision... as a kid I felt it was overkill but as I got older I realized it was a valuable lesson.

if those were my children, we would have quickly exited the premises, after an apology to mister SS :D
 
When my son was in his terrible twos, we lived in California. While shopping for groceries, the boy commences to scream bloody murder because I've said no to the last 2 or 3 dozen things he's asked for.
So I sit him in the basket like a baby and put my hand over his mouth to shut him up since he wasn't going to stop unless I gave in.
A lady comes up to me and says: Hey! You can't do that! That child is going to suffocate! I'm calling the police!
To which I responded; You mam are an idiot. Can you not hear all the air going in and out of this child's nose? Can you not see by the beet red complexion that his blood is well oxygenated? Go back to the salon, your roots are showing.
We moved back to TX not long after that. One day a couple of years later we're walking through Grapevine Mills mall and somebody's 4 year old throws a fit. This kids dad grabs him up and spanks his butt right in front of god and everybody. I just looked at my son and said, see, in TX when you misbehave you get a public beating and if the first mans arm gets tired somebody will take over for him. :evil:

My Son is an angel at gunshows.
 
I just looked at my son and said, see, in TX when you misbehave you get a public beating and if the first mans arm gets tired somebody will take over for him.
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:D

Where's my "cheering" smiley...

Chris
 
Darthbubba - that was the best chuckle I've had in a long time. I like the term of second hand children too. But you forgot the waiting period before you get one. :neener:
 
I've seen the same behavior at the local range.

There is a Saturday night 'popgun' shoot, nothing over .22 allowed.

There is also a competition running at the same time, for whomever wants to participate. 50yd target at 25 ( :rolleyes: ), two holes in each, whoever gets the best overall groups wins. There's an 11 and under category, and an 11 to 15. So, pretty young kids, though I think the youngest out there was 8.

There was one kid who scared the :cuss: out of me a few times. I was on the pistol side of the range when I hear "AAARRRRHGHGDkgdf" coming from his mouth. Everyone I was near automatically went in to "Oh no" mode, thinking this kid hurt himself.

Nope, he was just screwing around. He did it at least three more times that night. His dad? Laughed.

I was getting ready to say something, but they left.

Control your kids, people. Especially in a sport where screaming could mean someone is fatally injured.
 
Definitely rude and crude. I'd have said something to the parents.
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Wolf, in today's America, you'd have gotten a blank stare or worse, "don't tell me how to raise my kids."

It galls me to see children running around doing things that my parents would've slapped me silly for. Parenting in this country has degenerated to the point where it's really frightening. I work in a place that sells beer, and a guy walked in with a kid, maybe 16-17. The kid picked out the beer and handed the money to the older guy, right in front of me. I refused the sale, and the older guy threw a fit, saying that it didn't matter who got the beer as long as he was paying (untrue, and we could lose our liquor license for it). I said no, and his response was that he'd rather his son and friends get hammered at home rather than going out to do so.

:what:

I worked for a store in college in a "nice" neighborhood, and every time (which was appallingly often) we busted teenagers for shoplifting, I'd receive threatening phone calls and visits from parents who (while not the least bit embarassed or contrite) threatened to sue/slander/cause physical harm because a conviction would hurt Junior's chances at getting into Kegger State in the fall.

Cops can tell all sorts of similar stories. So what if Jimmy and pals got caught with a bag of meth in the car and injured two officers while resisting arrest? Kids will be kids, right? I want your badge number, my lawyer's gonna sue...

Things like personal accountability, discipline, honesty and common decency seem to be anachronisms that the "if it feels good do it" generation doesn't want to be troubled to pass on to their kids.
 
Sign posted at one friend's business:

UNATTENDED CHILDREN WILL BE SOLD AS SLAVES!


At a recent working dog event I attended:

CHLDREN MUST BE UNDER DIRECT CONTROL OF PARENTS. IF NOT THEY MUST BE LEASHED OR CRATED.

lpl/nc
 
After reading all these posts, I find things said that I like and agree with, and one thing that I found offensive.

I concider my wife and I good parents, our children were never allowed to behave in a way those children at the gun show did, and our children never caused anyone to ask for another table at any public eatery, we as parents would not stand for that kind of behaivour from our children, and still don't.
We have on way too many occassions experianced the behavior of other people's children, and wondered why the government requires you to take a test and get a license to drive a car, but any two idiots can become parents with just one lustful act. This trend in poor parenting is not going away anytime soon, and I fear it will only get worse with every generation to come.

As for the comment relating one's personal body weight to poor parenting, I take offense. Before making such a generalized and inmature statement like that, you should know who you are addressing. I'm a professional fire fighter and Emergency Medical Tech with 20 years on the job. I also enjoy eating, and at 48 years of age, it shows. I'm not the model of male fitness, but I can still climb a 100 foor ladder in full turnout gear, drag a charged hose to the second floor, wet down a room, and drag a burning wet matress back out, and I've yet to drop a medical patient no matter how heavy they might be. Besides, this spare tire around my mid-section has had no ill effects on my ability to teach my children table manners, or gun safety.....

BTW...I will be using the "second hand children" thing whenever possible......
 
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