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Kids and Guns.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Unknown777, Feb 25, 2011.

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  1. Unknown777

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    I was wondering what you guys think about this. First of all, according to the law, I am a "minor." I feel it is stupid kids have no right to own guns. Do the idiots who made this law think kids magically have a forcefield around them that blocks bullets? Kids are just as likely to need a gun as an adult. I have been mugged twice, and I was almost mugged 2 days ago. My dad is an anti, my mom is neutral. I have to fight with my dad for him even to let me buy folding knives. I don't know about you, but I consider a gun to be a necessity. You wouldn't buy a car without a windshield, or a bumper, would you? It just seems weird to me my parents spend all their money on iphones, clothes, ect. yet they don;t even have a way to protect themselves, and their beloved iphones as well. Your thoughts?
     
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  2. TexasKid

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    Well im fairly young myself (19) I would love to be ale to purchase handguns and really dont understand that restriction. With that bein said I think that age should not be the factor. Rather it should be based on knowledge, responsability, and skill. I know 35 year olds who just the thought of them havin guns doesnt sit well with me, while there are 15 year old kids who are completely capable of handleing guns in a safe manner but the law restricts them. Just my opinion.
     
  3. Cal-gun Fan

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    Ehmm...

    First off, I am 14. Guns are my hobby and have always been.

    But you are stupid if you think minors should be allowed to have them. There is a REASON they cannot have them. The majority of minors are not responsible enough to own their own firearms. Look at how many teenage drunk drivers, pregnancies, and drug abuses there are! There are already teen related firearm incidents, but now you want to let them own their own? That doesn't make any sense at all!
    Maybe we should just legalize drinking and smoking for minors too? Jesus christ! (Sorry to blasphemy)

    Seriously...CONSIDER what you are asking first, please.
     
  4. sprice

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    cal as in california?

    And as you said look at all the things that happen, teen drunk driving, pregnancies, drug abuse... wait, arn't those all against the law for minors too!?!?

    But back to the op, I think it would be ok as long as the person had a parent or close relative buy it for them and/or they had to go through a test first.
     
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  5. Nico Testosteros

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    I disagree with the OP.
     
  6. Unknown777

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    I agree, but the MAJORITY of gun owners do not ever protect themselves with their guns. Maybe we should outlaw those too?
     
  7. Skinsanity

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    No, I dont think Minors should be able to have them. Same reason I dont think they should drink, or have sex...Because most can't do it responsibly. My kids have guns, I have a 12 year old girl who has 2 rifles and a semi-auto pistol. She knows they are "hers" but I dont let her touch them unless I am right with her. in my opinion minors have not yet had the real world experience necessary to responsibly own a weapon capable of killing another human being..Then we get the hormone factor and I wont even go there....
     
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    Maybe you didnt read my post well enough. I dont base it on age, age is just a number. I mentioned responsibility. I too have had and been around guns all my life. I am a RESPONSIBLE individual.

    I am a teen and I have no kids, i dont drink or smoke, and i dont use drugs. I dont see where that deals with guns though?
     
  9. Unknown777

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    @skinsanity
    What you have just made is a stereotype. Note you did not say some, a few, or maybe even MANY. It is bullcrap to say ALL minors are not mature enough to own guns. Nothing personal, but what if I was to say "People over 18 are boring and do not have the "real world experience" to do fun things?
     
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    You can't arbitrate responsibility on a level like that. Its just impractical, and would never work, simple as that. If everyone was responsible, we wouldn't need so many laws.

    @Sprice: Yep, Cal as in the Communist Republic of California :)
     
  11. Skinsanity

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    Texas, as I said MOST, if you have stayed away from all of that, great, keep it up. And keep up the interest in guns....And I did read your post, thats why I mentioned my daughter. Some minors are responsible enough to own a gun..but many, and I will venture MOST are not. I have 4 children, 3 of them were not allowed the same priveleges my youngest daughter is, simply because they did not posess the maturity....
     
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    But thats just the thing-is it better to be safe than sorry? I think it is.
    What reason do minors really have to be CARRYING guns in public? Concealed carry. Why? And don't say self defense...for the love of god.
    There really is no reason, hell there is hardly any reason for adults to be carrying most of the time unless they are LEO or some other type of proffession where it is a necessity.
     
  13. Skinsanity

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    @ unknown777...

    Perhaps you need to settle down and read...as a matter of fact, I put most in bold letters.

    you are proving my point for me...
     
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    So are hunters only allowed to throw sticks and stones?
     
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    BTW, skinsanity, you had a very good point with your earlier post. Much better put than my...argumentative replies :)
     
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    Skinsanity: I think that i agree with you. Maturity and responsibility are key. If the individuals maturity or responsibilty is even questionable the answer should be NO! But if the individual is capable and interested i see no reason for restriction.

    Cal: I guess im just nothing like you. Im headstrong. I know full and well that even at the age of 14 i was mature enough to own and handle my own guns. Im independent and strong willed... and RESPONSIBLE. :D
     
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    The necessity is that it's a human right (www.a-human-right.com), protected (not given by, {God gave it to me by granting me life}) the Constitution of the United States of America. There needs to be an equal balance of power between the government and the people.
     
  18. Unknown777

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    To protect themselves. Kids are no less likely to be kidnapped, mugged, raped than any adult.
     
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    @unknown777

    Probably even more likely.
     
  20. Skinsanity

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    Thank you Cal, although, I appreciate that and think you have a mture outlook. Ido have to admit I disagree with you on most adults not needing to carry...to a point.

    I am not a LEO, but I carry...and I hope I never NEED to carry. But I do in case it ever becomes a need in a hurry. I think responsible adults who have the ability and mindset to carry responsibly should do so.
     
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    Actually...the right to keep and bear arms is a CIVIL right, not a HUMAN right. Get it straight.

    @Texaskid: I think we're alike in more ways than you think. I'm extremely headstrong, as you can probably see by my argumentative nature. I'm very independent and strong willed, and I am too responsible. My point is that NOT everybody is. Not everybody drinks responsibly either. Unfortunately, laws don't work that way.
     
  22. sprice

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    Oh so freedom of speech and such are just civil too? I don't know about you but I am nobody's slave...
     
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    I think that adults should have the right to carry. However, I think that people misunderstand the purpose of concealed carry sometimes. It gives people a feeling of empowerment that they really do not need or deserve. There have been incidents where people w/CC permits have almost shot police officers or have almost been shot in turn when they stupidly try to intervene during a police-involved incident. Those guys are just as bad as the cop-watch hippies who film the police.
    As long as adults recognize a CC permit for what it is and what it means, its fine. However, the chances of a significant amount of minors understanding that is...extremely low.
     
  24. Cal-gun Fan

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    No sprice, you are nobody's slave, but you're an idiot.

    In the Universal Declaration of HUMAN Rights, there is NO right that says you can carry a gun or own one.

    In the BILL OF RIGHTS of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA's constitution we do. They are not the same thing. BOTH have freedom of speech as a right.

    Civil and Human rights are not the same thing. Go get out a book and read. Its people like you who make my views about concealed carry and such.

    EDIT: Woops, sorry for double post, but doesnt really matter
     
  25. TexasKid

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    I not once mentioned every minor being able to have guns.
     
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