GUN TRADE: Ruger Single Six For Smith & wesson Sigma

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I'm really wanting a Smith & Wesson Sigma 9mm. I have a Ruger Single Six, with both cylinders, 22LR/22 Mag, in excellent condition, that I was looking to trade. The Sigma I'm looking to trade for is new, not used. I was offered my Single Six and $130.00 OTD. What do you think? Good deal?
 
Heck no! That sigma isn't even worth an even swap in my opinion. In reality though I guess an even swap would be about, well, even.
 
Since you asked, no. A new Sigma is, what, $300 tops? So you'd be getting less than $200 for your Single Six. If it's in good shape, it's probably worth $300, more if it's stainless, and even more if it's an original unconverted three screw.

And regardless of "price," in my opinion the Single Six is a classic, and the Sigma is not one of S&W's better gambits. No way I'd trade the Ruger for that particular S&W, even if an even trade.

My opinion ... worth what you paid for it.
 
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I own both of the guns you listed as well as many others.

The sigma IMO gets some pretty crazy people just against it in every way but they are a fine handgun and get the job done and i also feel they are a great value at what they are being sold at (i bought one of my sigma's for $200 and another at $250).

The Ruger Single Six is a better gun with a great reputation. IMO don't do the trade. Sell the Single-Six and then take that money and look into the gun you want (good guns in this value are Sigma's, Ruger P95's, Police trade in glocks, Taurus 24/7...).

try not to be in a hurry and really think about it. I hope you have another .22 to shoot due to ammo prices otherwise i highly suggest keeping your ruger and just save up for your semi auto of choice.
 
If you want to make the trade I wouldn't add any cash. It's probably worth an even swap, but no more. As has been noted - your used Single Six is worth about what a Sigma goes for new.
 
I have both and like them . Keep the Single six and..

buy the Sigma later and you will be glad you did.
 
To be honest with you, I am considering a Sigma. I've read that everything about the gun is VERY GOOD, except for two things.

1. The heavy trigger.
2. Its reputation.

I'm not concerned about its reputation since, after doing a lot of research, I think the Sigma suffers from extreme carryover from its early inception. It's a fine pistol now.

The trigger problem is easily resolved with an inexpensive trigger job. People who have had their Sigmas reduced from the 8 - 12 lb. trigger to around 5 lbs simply love the gun.

There are A LOT of guns out there that are terrific shooters, but suffer from a "reputation problem." The smell never leaves the gun, even after the problems are worked out by the manufacturer. Sigma and P250 both fit the bill. Two great shooters that are quite simply a STEAL in the new gun market.
 
Sigma's made prior to about 2000 were really, really, really bad. I owned one for 6 months and it was with S&W for 5 of those months and I never got a full box of ammo through it. S&W did replace it with a new gun. My LGS allowed the full price I originally paid in trade for the new gun which I traded for a Glock.

I'm sometimes amazed they were able to save that product name, but from all indications I'd say they are now producing a good gun for the money.

But, the Ruger is simply worth more than you are being allowed. I'm not a fan of Ruger single actions and wouldn't mind selling or trading for something I liked better as long as I was getting a fair price.
 
How much are they wanting for the Sigma? If it is more than $300 not a good price.

You could list the Single Six for sale here and I would be suprised if it last long at close to the $300.

Never fired a Sigma (do want one though) but own a couple of Single Sixs and it is a wonderful gun.
 
ive owned and carried a sigma 40ve allied forces for over 5 years now. round count is well over 6K when i lost track last year. it has NEVER failed, not once. its light weight, packs 14+1, fits my hands perfect and the trigger is just fine with a little time.

i took the trigger apart, removed the center spring, and put some valve lapping compound on the cams and sat watching Formula1 one day pulling the trigger the whole time. cleaned it, lubed it and the trigger is nice and smooth while breaking like a glass rod at about 8lbs.

what i recommend, keep the ruger, look around at pawn shops or gun shows for the sigma, they can be had quite cheap.
 
I've seen new Sigmas on sale for as little as $250. That means you are getting $120 for your Single Six. No way. It should be an even swap at worst and you would be doing the guy a favor.
 
I am not a fan of the Sigma, mainly due to the trigger pull. But they are reliable and accurate within defense gun parameters.

But I think the problem here is failure to understand the world of retail sales. Dollar wise, going by retail prices, that is about an even swap, at least in theory and knowing nothing of condition, etc. But to the dealer, it is not even. He has to sell the Sigma at retail. If he takes the Ruger in trade, he will have to sell the Ruger at retail, which means he can't give the buyer retail for it. That is not the way to stay in business.

Jim
 
Wife uses the Sigma, it shoots perfectly well, just (all together now) That dang trigger.

She chose it on grip feel, I would have gotten something else for that purchase, but whatever floats your boat and arms you adequately and reliably is the answer.

cz-82 in 9x18 makarov is a real gem of a gun for 200-250

$300 gets new Bersa .380s, $400 gets a SW SD (slightly nicer sigma with a front night sight) used cz-75s, glocks,

Keep the Six, .22 is cheap and .22 mag is great fun.
 
Instead of trading my Ruger Single Six I bought the Sigma SW9VE for $390.00 OTD, sticker price was $425.00. Apparently, Sigma's are somewhat higher here in the southern Illinois area than elsewhere.

I took it to the range and fired 150 rounds through it. It performed flawlessly, no jams, no stove pipes, no FTF's, no failure's to eject. The trigger pull is somewhat stiff, but not as bad as I had heard it was.

Question:

If I have a trigger job done on it and remove those two tiny springs, will it weaken the firing pin strike?
 
Rugerman,

It's a brand new gun, I wouldn't monkey with a trigger job until you give yourself a chance to get used to the pistol. Shoot it a few hundred rounds and see what it feels like to you then. Just my opinion but I'd give it a chance before cracking her open.
 
Good call. If you do decide to sell the Single Six (which I don't advise), you'll get more from a private sale than any trade with a gun store. I did a gun store trade years ago; never again.
 
You did the right thing. I have both and think they are both excellent at their intended purpose. I like my sigma more than my g19 for accuracy but was ready to ship it to you for that trade offer. If you needed a carry weapon, the sigma fits the bill better than the ruger. However, for target practice or hunting, the single six is better. The $ value isn't that different so adding cash would be bad. Would you trade a cow for a laptop all depends on your needs.
 
Glad you kept your single six.I had one years ago and traded it off.Like another poster said with ammo prices as high as they are its kind of nice to have a 22.
 
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