Guns got taken away!

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Hi everyone,

I just got my guns taken away while I was at church camp by my grandma! My dad and her are in a good relationship now but are always real shaky, the minute she found out about my small handgun collection and rather large long gun collection she figured that I was insane and with the help of my dad they opened up my personal gun vault and took all of my guns and 3,000 rounds of ammo that I was saving fot when Obama gets elected jk :p. Anyways I keep a gun hidden for home defense in my closet and thank goodness she didn't find it:evil:! But all that I am left with is a Bersa .380 with 7 rounds of Hornady ammo. And to add to it I really hate lying to my parents about anything and I am not old enough to buy ammo or guns yet :banghead:. What should I do?

BTW, she took my dads old duty gun as well, and he and her both agreed to give them back once I am 18 or when I want to go hunting or to the gun range. (as if that is the only need for a gun! :cuss::fire:). I guess that if someone decides to break into our home we can always run to her house get the guns and as much ammo as she'll allow then come back and be ready to kick some A** if we so make it out of the house alive! :neener::mad::fire::banghead::cuss:
 
fight for your right!

I know you're supposed to respect your elders, but come on... she's your grandma - you can take her!

or... you can tell her that you'll give her back her dentures when she gives you back your gun. If she doesn't want to eat gerber, she'll do what's right.

:neener:

ok, joking aside - seriously, this is not cool. You need to talk to her and tell her that:

A) You're an adult
B) You're not insane
C) Even if you were insane - see A
 
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Count the days til 18 my friend, count the days....... there's little else you can do at this point if they can't be reasoned with.

Push too hard they could make things much worse since you're still a minor. Smile a lot and wait patiently.
 
oh - you're not 18 yet? I missed that originally (darn skimming)

ok... scratch A and C then.

TR is right on. How many days are there? If there's more than a few, try talking to them and explain that all is well in Whoville and they have no reason to fear your ownership.

I do have to ask - if you're not 18, how did you get these guns? I was under the impression that to own a handgun under 18:

A) It can't be stored loaded
B) You have to have your parents permission
 
Should I keep the Bersa? But what if there is a life or death situation after all my dad is an ex cop and I know if someone wanted to find us bad enough they could.

My dad is pretty gun friendly but he loves to listen to his mother also!

I just found out she took my mace and baton off my explorer duty belt as well!
 
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And your mouth shut. As long as it's legal for you to be in possession I'd keep very quiet about it and keep it well hidden from grandma.

If you're 15 you might want to make sure your state is OK with you having a handgun. Don't want to get into trouble over something minor that could haunt you your whole life.
 
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you went to church camp and they stole from you...
good example of irony.
+1 Texas and give them no cause, just or perceived, to doubt that you are being anything but adult about the situation. good luck

re-read.....seems you had these items and they had no knowledge of them....is this correct? since Columbine parents/guardians doing interventions is understandable. im not saying it is necessary or proper, just understandable. being worthy is good: being 18 is gooder.
 
Im staying the hell away from this one. If you really press the issue you may make things worse. I say count the days till 18.
 
And your mouth shut. As long as it's legal for you to be in possession I'd keep very quite about it and keep it well hidden.
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I agree. Though if your dad's not cool with you having that large of an armory, how the heck did you get your hands on all that stuff?
 
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As far as what you can do to get them back (legally), your dad is about your only option. Convince him that it's better for you to have access to your guns than for grandma to keep them under lock and key. If you've had them for any length of time, it's pretty obvious you're not unstable or you'd have already shot yourself or someone else.


An idea that would have worked with my dad in this type of situation is that of betrayal of trust. Tell your dad that you trusted him not to take your guns, tell them that since he went behind your back and took them (with your grandmother's help), you can't really look at him in the same light anymore.


That would break almost any parent's heart to hear that their child doesn't trust them, and for good reason.
 
Sigh...

I took someone's guns away too.

He's not allowed to mess with them again until he demonstrates enough responsibility to do so.

He's nine.

Let's see who demonstrates the responsibility first.

WHY did your father agree with your grandmother? I doubt it was just because she might have a phobia. Your first step is to go have a chat with your father. NOW.

And when you are judged to be adequately responsible for possession of boomsticks, then you again join the ranks of the adults and sit at the big table.
 
And when you are judged to be adequately responsible for possession of boomsticks, then you again join the ranks of the adults and sit at the big table.
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On the surface it sounds to me like he's the only adult in the place. Sounds like dad's still cowtowing to his mommy.

No offense intended towards your dad Sheriff, just my view from outside.
 
First off, it's not about your guns, it's about control. The remark about "with help from my dad" proved that. Your grandma wears the pants in your family.

Another issue is that it appears she just found out. That means that she views this as being done without her permission.

I hate to say this, but she's not your mom. However, your dad is an enabler. Had he said "no," your guns would still be in the cabinet.

You also mentioned "church camp." Yikes, there's a flash from my past. The issue of respect has arisen. We are taught to respect our fathers and mothers.

I would also remind your dad that the Bible also says, cleave from thy mother to thy wife. Underline for him the passage that fathers should not lead their sons to anger.

Your father is shirking his Biblical duties and he has also sold out his son. Talk to him, and go get your guns.

(It's an important issue--more that just the guns. My Mother was a control freak and foolishly once told me, "Just because your Father and I let you have a motorcycle, it doesn't mean you get to use it when you want." I was nineteen years of age, so you can imagine how this went over.

I informed her that from that day forward she would lose every battle, every one. She would go on to never win anything. She died without ever regaining the upper hand. She never had any sway with my bikes, my education, my wife, my jobs or my homes. She passed away alone in a nursing home.

These are serious family issues. If you like, you might show her my post, and ask her if her intention was really to damage her family in this fashion.)
 
My dad gave her the code and my dad is gun friendly until now, must have been a typo. Where should I hide the bersa for now?
 
You mentioned your "explorers belt", by that would you mean the Police Explorers program?

My opinion, bide your time. I had several guns at 15, much like you, but all in my dad's safe. See if your dad can get them back, under his control, and then "borrow" them from him when you want to go shooting.

On the explorers thing, I take huge issue with a teenager thinking he has the right to tote a mace and baton in plain view of the public. Seems much like a Napoleon complex thing, unless done under the VERY STRICT supervision of actual LEOS.

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Hide the Bersa. You can't legally take it out in public, so someplace where it's hidden but acessable to you in the house, should trouble arise, and be careful. You don't want to get shot by your own father taking matters into in the event of a burglary or something.
 
I would not hide the bersa-be upfront about what's going on. From the post, there could be any number of reasons why your dad and grandma have decided to do this. They're your parents, and they are making these decisions for your benefit.

If they are holding them until you're 18, and you want to use them, take up hunting or target shooting...just like they said you'd be allowed to do.

All of us boys have been there. I know it's rough to be at that age and be told you can't do something that you're perfectly responsible to do, but the best possible decision you can make is to abide by the rules here.
 
Its none of her business, its beyond me as to why your father allowed her to do that.

My grandmother is a freak about guns but she has no sway in what I can or can't own, we all smile at her politely but no one really cares what she says.
 
Folks, we need to remember that this is someone who is still a minor in the care of his dad. It looks like his dad agreed with grandma on this subject.

It is entirely possible that it is illegal for you to continue possessing that bersa without your dad's permission. This isn't the same thing as hiding a comic book your dad doesn't like or a video game; firearms are a whole different category of property, and you should be mindful of that as you make this decision.
 
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