Guns got taken away!

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Folks, we need to remember that this is someone who is still a minor in the care of his dad. It looks like his dad agreed with grandma on this subject.

Get a grip on yourself, Shootinstudent. We have here a 15-year-old whose grandmother and father opened his personal gun vault and took all the guns and ammunition he was saving there for when Barack Obama becomes President.

The two adults who know him best were meanies, so the subjects now are ain't it awful that they don't let him have his own way and how he should get around them.

I hope you're caught up now. :)
 
The two adults who know him best were meanies, so the subjects now are ain't it awful that they don't let him have his own way and how he should get around them.

I hope you're caught up now.

:evil:

I always forget to consider the meanie factor....meanie dad taking the guns today...

...the blue meanies "always crashing the party" tomorrow.
 
Ltlabner said:
You must have been so proud.

Of course not, but you missed the point.

Do you think this happened in a vacuum? Don't you think my Dad knew? Did you question on why he abdicated the authority he should have used to bring order to his family? Where was the peace his children should have enjoyed?

My Mother drank, and kvetched and nagged and raised holy terror wherever she went--except in my home, and to my wife. My Mother is the single biggest reason my brother's first wife left him.

My home history wasn't a bragging session--it was a warning. I told the boy to go to his father. I warned him about how this would unravel in the future--and yes, if this story is true I thought his father was a bit of spineless weenie.

It sounds to me that this woman has inserted herself into the home politics of not only the boy, but also the entire life of the father.
 
You're a minor.

Your guardian has decided that you're not to be trusted with (what sounds like) a fairly large collection of dangerous tools that you're not old enough to legally possess anyway.

Hand over whatever they missed and talk to them.

Want to be treated like an adult? Start acting like one.
 
What's the question here? For whatever reason, the adults in the relationship determined a minor did not need to have firearms in his possession, but did not remove them from his use if they felt he had the need. All he has to do is ask.
The minor, in turn, came on the internet to ask the opinion of a group of strangers about doing the adult thing and talking the situation out. If the minor is incapable of taking that course of action on his own without consulting the opinions of strangers, some of whom are promoting the idea that the adult has no rights concerning the storage of firearms in their own home, then that alone speaks of a lack of maturity.
I guarantee that if, for reasons of my own, I removed firearms from my house, regardless of who they belonged to, and put them in what I considered a safe place...then my 15 year old son comes up to me and says "Dad, you're wrong for taking my guns because the experts on THR said so."...those weapons would find themselves at the bottom of the nearest river followed closely by the computer.
 
Assuming that the situation is close to what it's been described as, I think you should:

1. Turn the .380 over to your dad. If they forgot about it and you still have it, you are violating their trust. It sucks but your integrity is more important. If you want to be a man, you have to be honest and tell it like it is. Regardless of whether it's fair or not, if you live in their house you have to respect their decisions and rules.
2. Following number 1, you have to tell it like it is.
Tell your dad that he should have at least been straight with you about why he wanted your access to guns restricted. Tell him that you don't appreciate how he waited until you were away then removed them behind your back. Tell him that he violated your trust and that you were hurt by that and expected better of him and that his actions damaged your relationship.
Don't say it like a little kid.
Don't throw a tantrum like an immature little whiner. Look your dad right in the eye and tell him that you don't appreciate how he betrayed you and that he has some work to do to earn your trust back.
And mean it.

Again, this is assuming that you're not running a con-game for sympathy on the internet and that you actually are sincerely looking for advice.
I assume that you are, because if you weren't you could have easily left out the part about still having the .380, and if you were lying to us, it would have made no sense whatsoever to tell the truth about that.

On the defense thing, it's kind of a moot point.
Everyone on the internet wants to believe they are Rambo, and every 15 year old wants to believe that he's the demi-god offspring of Chuck Norris and Ultraviolet, but that just isn't the case.
Your dad (and mom) should be the ones doing the defending. They are apparently not willing to accept responsibility for that job.
It sucks.
But you're 15. You're probably not qualified for that job either and there just ain't much you can do about it yet.
 
IBTL... this is a dangerous topic, and one that's already caused some hard words to be said.

I don't think we, the posters on THR, have any business telling a minor how to interact with his family. Not only is that not our prerogative... we just don't have the information to know what's really going on. The best thing that can be said in this situation is, "Don't do anything illegal". And that's that. Anything less is irresponsible. Anything more is intrusive.

And there is a good chance this is a trolling thread. If not, then fine, but I wonder if this is the right place for the post. If so, then let's mind what we say.
 
I took my dad's gun away from him, also. He had Alzheimer's disease and my mom no longer trusted him with it. It was one of the hardest things I ever did. He asked me about it one day by writing me a note so my mom wouldn't hear. I lied to him and said I was having it restored, and that about broke my heart. He never asked about it again. We lost him in 1987.

Your Grandma is doing what she thinks right. And your father loves his mother. You're still a kid. Trust me, it goes faster and faster every year. Soon you'll wish you were 15 again.
 
I took my dad's gun away from him, also. He had Alzheimer's disease and my mom no longer trusted him with it. It was one of the hardest things I ever did. He asked me about it one day by writing me a note so my mom wouldn't hear. I lied to him and said I was having it restored, and that about broke my heart.
You were a loving and courageous son. You had every reason to also feel very proud of yourself.
 
same thing happened to my grandad. thank god he gave his guns to other family before alzheimer's hit. either way, he almost killed my grandma one night. though she was "the enemy".
 
Packman wrote:

Though if your dad's not cool with you having that large of an armory, how the heck did you get your hands on all that stuff?


Until the above question gets answered by the Original Poster, I am VERY suspect of this thread.


I have no problems with a minor having a firearm that is his-- with parental consent and supervision as deemed appropriate.

After all, by the time I was 15, I had saved up and bought both a handgun and an AR-15-- WITH my parents' approval and under thier rules. My father had also gotten me a few for presents such as a Remington 1100 and Ruger 10/22.

BUT...

And this is a big BUT...

This doesn't make sense. If the OP had parental concent, I don't see this as being an issue.

If the OP did not have parental consent or parental knowledge, I have a problem with this, and I'm wondering what the situation is here.


One possible answer is tha the OP's father has the firearms and the OP has gotten to the point that he thinks of them as his own.

I just re-read this thread and the quoted question has not been answered.


Several on this thread have given good advice-- Bogie and Derek come to mind.



-- John
 
I call either BS or the kid is in illegal possession of a handgun. The whole story isn't quite plausible. There is no way for a kid to even get a handgun legally under 18. So he either bought it illegally or it was given to him illegally. I'm sorry but one of the few gun laws I do agree with is not letting minor children posses them without the consent of an adult.
 
ugh back in the old days a kid could just go to a hardware store and pickup a gun, millions of people didn't get slaughtered and there wasn't blood in the streets because of it, I am not saying breaking the law is good only pointing out that sometimes its makes no sense.
 
Things have changed a lot in this society though. Kids today do not have the respect for life and safety or anything they once did.
 
he has a point. as much as i would love to be treated as an 21 year old would, i cant imagine it happening because of how my fellow teens act. unless they change the laws to exempt me. then im cool with it.
 
Only because its no longer theirs to respect, promote responsibility at an early age instead of trying to wrap them in foam.
 
I noticed that he has been asked several times about how he got the guns and never answered the question. Until that question is answered, it's ALL speculation. Sounds like a troll to me.

Wheeler
 
HO88, if your daddy took the gun away from you back then, you didn't run cry to teh internetz about how you were hiding your last handgun under the pillow or something. Something here is wrong and I'm not sure exactly what.
 
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