Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Guns = sin

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by PinnedAndRecessed, Apr 30, 2006.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. PinnedAndRecessed

    PinnedAndRecessed member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2004
    Messages:
    1,542
    I was sitting in church today reading about greed and how bad it is. Greed is always wanting more than you need; more than your fair share; etc.

    It dawned on me that after my most recent handgun purchase (one you guys helped me select, btw), I still wasn't happy. Because I immediately began conniving as to how to buy another gun.

    And it dawned on me what the article (I was reading) was saying, viz., we're never satisfied. It's always "just a few more."

    Well, I repent. It's not going to happen. I'm going to bring the thing under control.







    (Just after the pinned and recessed M29/629 with four inch barrel; national match Colt 45 ACP; Diamondback with 4 [or 6] inch barrel; M41 Smith; Beretta 92 Inox; Sig 226ST; and Remington 700 LH varmint rifle in 223.............)

    But that's all!
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2006
  2. Run&Shoot

    Run&Shoot Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2005
    Messages:
    664
    Location:
    Oregon
    Just remember, it is not the gun that equals sin, it is the lusting in your heart. :) It is not how many you buy, but why you buy and how that balances with other responsbilities in your life. I am sure you are a responsible "collector" who is exploring and learning about his field of interest and not some rabid nut buying every piece of junk that comes along. Right? I mean, RIGHT?!
     
  3. SolaScriptura139

    SolaScriptura139 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2005
    Messages:
    500
    Location:
    Weirton, WV
    I agree with Run&Shoot. It's really not the amount that you buy (to a certain extent), as long as you're tithing, and you're not spending beyond your means. I do agree with you that it would be greed if you're never satisfied with a gun. It also depends on how you buy the guns, are you buying them right away with a credit card, or are you saving up for them from spare money? Because the gun will be more satisfying if you use the principle of delayed gratification. Buying it now on compulsion will always make it less satisfying.
     
  4. AndyC

    AndyC Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2006
    Messages:
    2,581
    Location:
    DFW, TX
    Tithing me 10% of your collection will help assuage the guilt...er....my son :D
     
  5. evan price

    evan price Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    5,476
    Location:
    http://www.ohioccw.org/ Ohio's best CCW resour
    Coveting is a sin. It is not wrong to desire new things or other things;It is only when you make that desire a stronger part of your life than say, need to respect and love your family, or praise the Lord, that it becomes a sin. If your desire to purchase more guns causes harm to yourself or your family, then it is sinful. If you have so many guns that you cannot safely store them it becomes sinful.
    Otherwise, it's just normal to want something different.
     
  6. PinnedAndRecessed

    PinnedAndRecessed member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2004
    Messages:
    1,542
    Well, rats.




    Now I've gotta go buy another safe.
     
  7. ozarkhillbilly

    ozarkhillbilly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    492
    Location:
    mo
    SolaScriptura139 and evan price what they said.
     
  8. Heraclid

    Heraclid Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2005
    Messages:
    75
    +1 SolaScriptura139!

    Easy come, easy go. Hard to come by, treasured possession. May sound pathetic, but I started down the road to my first handgun in December. I finally put money down on one yesterday. I started saving but something would come up. Other obligations and such, and I could have been selfish and let some things fall by the wayside but didn't. Seems like forever. But it would have been far less gratifying. Snake_guy said it best in his signatures...

    "She is yours. You may find, however, that having is, after all, not as satisfying as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."
     
  9. redranger1

    redranger1 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2005
    Messages:
    343
    Location:
    Iberia, MO
    i think pinnedandrecessed has got an excellent point. we are as christians to be content with what we have and with what we dont have. but the other guys have made great points aswell. the important thing is to put the appropriate proiorities first.
     
  10. bumm

    bumm Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2005
    Messages:
    546
    Location:
    small town Iowa
    Wanting more guns can't be as bad as "coveting thy neighbor's ass."
    Marty
     
  11. xd9fan

    xd9fan Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2005
    Messages:
    1,858
    Location:
    Under tyranny in Midwest
  12. Vern Humphrey

    Vern Humphrey Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2002
    Messages:
    18,372
    Location:
    Deep in the Ozarks
    I need about 20 or 30 more guns, and I still won't have my fair share.

    So for those who feel guilty, send me guns until you feel cleansed of your sins and mark it down to my account in Heaven.:p
     
  13. xd9fan

    xd9fan Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2005
    Messages:
    1,858
    Location:
    Under tyranny in Midwest
    Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering....

    Guns lead to dignity, dignity leads to freedom, freedom leads to peace........

    hmmmm needs more work.....

    Guns = sin....no. Like anything else in this life....its want you do with what you got that counts.
     
  14. 2TransAms

    2TransAms Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2006
    Messages:
    814
    Location:
    Illinois,by St. Louis MO
    I'm a Christian,and I've spent plenty on guns and ammo_Oh,lots of ammo...But I'm content with what I have,with the guns I own. Now I'd certainly like more,but I'm content with what I have.I don't neglect the bills and tithing to buy more guns. Or ammo. It's only sin if it takes the Lord's spot in your heart.Same is true of Trans Ams or bikes or anything that you like.
     
  15. evan price

    evan price Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    5,476
    Location:
    http://www.ohioccw.org/ Ohio's best CCW resour
    What I mean by that, specifically, I have a friend who spends every extra cent he has on guns, ammo, and more guns. Literally there is no place to sit down in his little house because there are so many guns leaned against walls, on chairs, on tables, on the sofa, on the fridge, etc. etc. I bet he has 300 or so pistols and long guns none of them in a safe and all just laying out in the open all over his house. He lives in a not nice neighborhood also and has a reputation with the ese's that he is a guy witha lot of guns who will shoot you if you do anything funny. That's not too far away from, "Hey lets get our own guns and kill him and steal his guns" on the streets.

    Basically, if you are happy with and appreciate what you have, there is n oproblem. If what you have does not make you joyful and instead leads you to believe that your gun collection sucks unless you have one more Kimber... or another rifle.. or whatever and you are never ever satisfied... then you have problem.

    "Want everything you have, instead of having everything you want."
     
  16. real_name

    real_name member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2006
    Messages:
    938
    Location:
    Nashville, TN.
    Everything is sin. Same as nothing is sin. Depends which doctrine you're following and how closely you're following it.
    Like some people eat pork and some people don't.
    I'm sure there are as many Atheists who believe guns are a sin as there are Christian Fundamentalists who don't. And vice-versa. Ad infinitum.

    Sin to me is 'actions that result in a negative moral impact'. Things like laziness, or infidelity. Lusting after a gun or two doesn't make me lose any sleep or gain any grey hairs. As long as I am living within my own morals I will be able to live with that.

    For the record I'm not a Christian, I'm not much of anything but I am Buddhist if that helps to define. My morals are strong and easily adhered to, don't hurt yourself or others, don't make trouble and practise moderation.

    To surmise, wanting more guns isn't a sin, or it is. For me it isn't.
     
  17. geekWithA.45

    geekWithA.45 Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2003
    Messages:
    9,037
    Location:
    SouthEast PA
    Pride.
    Envy.
    Lust.
    Greed.
    Gluttony.

    Don't be sad, 5/7 ain't bad...
     
  18. Kaylee

    Kaylee Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2002
    Messages:
    3,749
    Location:
    The Last Homely House
    I think it's a question of where are you drawing your happiness from. I think that's also basically what the "Shall have to other Gods before me" means. It could be as terrible as getting into a drug spiral, or it could be realizing that you have nothing left to hold to if and when someone in your family dies. Everything on earth will pass, and that includes us. Thus, placing your trust in the temporal will be at best disappointing, at worst terribly self-destructive.

    In other words.. no, your liking guns is no sin. Your liking getting new guns is no sin. But if you take the greater part of your happiness from your hobbies, then you are doing your heart no favors. Few pleasures are as transitory as the "new toy" pleasure.

    (spoken as someone who's wrestled with the same problem. :p )
     
  19. velojym

    velojym Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2006
    Messages:
    617
    If ya earned it, it ain't greed.
    That's one of the peeves I have with folks on the left, who've been messing around with the dictionary.
    Evidently they believe that my lazy cousin 'deserves' lots of stolen taxpayer money, while those who work hard and make lots of sacrifices deserve less. In fact, they'll remind you of that every payday.
    Bollocks.
     
  20. eastwood44mag

    eastwood44mag Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2005
    Messages:
    1,027
    We covet what we regularly see.

    Just don't look at the catalog and you'll be fine.
     
  21. GrammatonCleric

    GrammatonCleric Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2006
    Messages:
    123
    Location:
    Indianapolis
    Guns and lusting after more

    I personally am pretty satisfied with my G21. I would like a few more guns eventually, but I don't feel any need to buy everything I see in my local Popguns. I'm pretty much a minimallist in that regard. My wishlist is pretty short.

    M1 Garand 30-06
    Remington 870 OR Mossberg 12 gauge
    S&W M625 pre-lock with full underlug
    Glock 20 10mm.
    See what I mean?
     
  22. rayra

    rayra member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2003
    Messages:
    654
    Location:
    L.A., **********
    "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

    Luke 22:36


    :D
     
  23. odysseus

    odysseus Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2004
    Messages:
    946
    Location:
    US Citizen
    Remember, guns don't sin - people do.

    If it's one thing it could be another...
     
  24. Koobuh

    Koobuh Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2005
    Messages:
    325
    'Greed', that is, wanting more than what you have, is not a sin; acting covetously is. That is, wanting not a rifle like your neighbor has, but HIS rifle, which leads to the temptation to steal HIS rifle from him. Going out and getting your own, just like his, if you can afford it without harming your family's financial well-being, is perfectly fine.

    BTW, 'tithing', that is, earmarking exactly 10% of your income to go to the church, is un-necessary. Give only what your heart compels you to, as Jesus said. If that's 10%, dandy.

    Remember, though; where your heart lies, there shall be your reward.
     
  25. Hemicuda

    Hemicuda member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    Messages:
    1,064
    Location:
    Middle of the Mitten!, Michigan
    Or, you can do what I do...

    Ignore organized religion, and tithe your 10% at the GUNSTORE!

    if I were to choose a religion, Wicca would be it... but I claim no actual religion, and just have my own core beliefs to get me through...

    as for coveting my neighbors guns... I have more and nicer ones than he... I am pretty sure if coveting is happening, it's him coveting mine... (fine by me...)
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page