H&K .45 ACP --- OMG!!!!
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10-Ring
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Yeah, some day I too will have one...until then, a boy can dream! 
Congrats on your new HK!
Congrats on your new HK!
hkenvy91
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welcome to the sickness! that bug bit me last year and now i have 2h&k 45's 1 45 tac
1 45 compact
p.s they sure are nice shooters arent they!
1 45 compact
p.s they sure are nice shooters arent they!
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mstirton
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I got my 2nd a little while ago and had to get the 9mm as well to shoot more with cheap ammo (see thread above). I've been considering the Expert or Tac, but I think the USPf45 is perfect and carry one of mine with TFOs and 230+p HST.
gudel
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My dad tried one today. He was like, this is a 45? how light recoil!
heh heh..
heh heh..
gudel
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I bought both XD. HK finish is far superior.
you may hold more bullets, but mine is HK.
Sure seemed that good to me. Range buddy said, try it ...
I was comparing it to a Colt Defender, and the HK actually seems lighter, if that's possible. Extra inch of barrel and sight radius --- just whacks the center out of a 7" Caldwell oval, pop-pop-pop. CCI Blazer 230.
I have an XD-9 subcompact. This .45 "looks" clunkier, but was like a feather --- and with less felt recoil than I'd anticipated.
It's on The List --- along with an M&P Compact (probably in 9mm).
To be honest, everyone who tries the little Colt likes it, it's got great "hand melt;" what they don't like is the occasional jam with FMJ. (After picking at it and getting it reliable with JHP, well ...) From everything I've heard, the Colt and the XD will be rust before this thing malfs. Given my experience with a Sig and the XD, I'm getting spoiled enough to believe that malfs should be rare things.
The HK was NIB, and I stood next to it going through 150 rds, just munching away. Not much flip. No "hard spots" on the grip. Nice sights. Maybe a little wide.
But, yeah, really, really good ...
I was comparing it to a Colt Defender, and the HK actually seems lighter, if that's possible. Extra inch of barrel and sight radius --- just whacks the center out of a 7" Caldwell oval, pop-pop-pop. CCI Blazer 230.
I have an XD-9 subcompact. This .45 "looks" clunkier, but was like a feather --- and with less felt recoil than I'd anticipated.
It's on The List --- along with an M&P Compact (probably in 9mm).
To be honest, everyone who tries the little Colt likes it, it's got great "hand melt;" what they don't like is the occasional jam with FMJ. (After picking at it and getting it reliable with JHP, well ...) From everything I've heard, the Colt and the XD will be rust before this thing malfs. Given my experience with a Sig and the XD, I'm getting spoiled enough to believe that malfs should be rare things.
The HK was NIB, and I stood next to it going through 150 rds, just munching away. Not much flip. No "hard spots" on the grip. Nice sights. Maybe a little wide.
But, yeah, really, really good ...
1911Tuner
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H&K
If I remember correctly...we don't see many USPs around here...they have the polygonal rifling. Don't use lead bullets in'em.
If I remember correctly...we don't see many USPs around here...they have the polygonal rifling. Don't use lead bullets in'em.
Lloyd Smale
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dont own either but have shot the crap out of both and comparing an h&k to a xd is like comparting a ferrari to a ford.
ChickenHawk
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Me Too!
51Cards,
It had the same affect on me when I shot one a few months ago. My next gun is definitely going to be the H&K USP Compact in .45 ACP. What a beautiful gun and what a sweet trigger.
Drool. Have fun with yours!
Cheers,
ChickenHawk
51Cards,
It had the same affect on me when I shot one a few months ago. My next gun is definitely going to be the H&K USP Compact in .45 ACP. What a beautiful gun and what a sweet trigger.
Drool. Have fun with yours!
Cheers,
ChickenHawk
MadMercS55
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I have an XD45 and a USP .45 fullsize. Both feel great in my hands, and the capacity doesn't mean much to me since I normally carry a 7rnd .45. However, to me, the only thing they have in common is both being .45's. The HK wins hands down for me in fit\finish overall quality\reliability. I do however get excellent accuracy out of both weapons when I do my part.
The HK offers two possibly three things over the XD:
Better fit and finish, and some would say apperance. While I agree the XD is an extraordinarily ugly thing and the HK does look and feel more "polished" this may or may not matter to the buyer.
The USP comes in multiple configurations as far as manual of arms is concerned, the XD does not. If you don't care for the manual of arms of the XD, that could be the deal breaker.
The third thing is a maybe: the HK is kind of like a Snap On tool, and the XD is about like a Craftsman tool. One is prettier and has a carefully cultivated name to make it seem more "professional" than the other. That's not a knock, it's just how I see it.
But it's really amazing that the only things that really compare to the XD are the HK and the Sig. That should tell you something, even if in your mind you consider the XD to be third place among the three, that's pretty amazing considering their relative costs and the fact that Sig and HK have a lot more years of good marketing behind them.
Oh and to the original poster, congratulations, that's a very nice investment and I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun to boot.
Better fit and finish, and some would say apperance. While I agree the XD is an extraordinarily ugly thing and the HK does look and feel more "polished" this may or may not matter to the buyer.
The USP comes in multiple configurations as far as manual of arms is concerned, the XD does not. If you don't care for the manual of arms of the XD, that could be the deal breaker.
The third thing is a maybe: the HK is kind of like a Snap On tool, and the XD is about like a Craftsman tool. One is prettier and has a carefully cultivated name to make it seem more "professional" than the other. That's not a knock, it's just how I see it.
But it's really amazing that the only things that really compare to the XD are the HK and the Sig. That should tell you something, even if in your mind you consider the XD to be third place among the three, that's pretty amazing considering their relative costs and the fact that Sig and HK have a lot more years of good marketing behind them.
Oh and to the original poster, congratulations, that's a very nice investment and I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun to boot.
I think the Defender is just about the "prettiest" gun I have, fit, finish, all of it. But I think that's prejudiced me into trying to make it something I could honestly feel comfortable with.
Now, right there's the problem: "trying to make." Yesterday, I had the Sig 229 out to the range. Haven't fired it in a couple of months, been so busy with the little Colt. Firing the Defender, the H&K .45, and the .40 Sig (along with a pile of .22) in the same session was revelatory.
I can't trust the Colt, not as a go-to. I've tried.
I can trust the Sig, 100%.
I can trust the XD, 100%.
One brief session with the H&K, and I think there's a blend of characteristics. I just wish I could find something like it with customizable grips. Even with the grip issue, I can see one in my future.
I'm pretty much hooked on .40 and.45 caliber, pretty much un-hooked on 1911s. Love em to pieces, just have ballpoint pens that are more dependable.
I think the Defender will remain as a backup/range gun --- and as a piece of artwork, in a weird way. Also as an ultra-lightweight frame for the Kimber conversion. (What a hoot those are together! My cell phone weighs more!)
But I have seen the light. And it is black.
Now, right there's the problem: "trying to make." Yesterday, I had the Sig 229 out to the range. Haven't fired it in a couple of months, been so busy with the little Colt. Firing the Defender, the H&K .45, and the .40 Sig (along with a pile of .22) in the same session was revelatory.
I can't trust the Colt, not as a go-to. I've tried.
I can trust the Sig, 100%.
I can trust the XD, 100%.
One brief session with the H&K, and I think there's a blend of characteristics. I just wish I could find something like it with customizable grips. Even with the grip issue, I can see one in my future.
I'm pretty much hooked on .40 and.45 caliber, pretty much un-hooked on 1911s. Love em to pieces, just have ballpoint pens that are more dependable.
I think the Defender will remain as a backup/range gun --- and as a piece of artwork, in a weird way. Also as an ultra-lightweight frame for the Kimber conversion. (What a hoot those are together! My cell phone weighs more!)
But I have seen the light. And it is black.
"I just wish I could find something like it with customizable grips"
I think the HK45 (not to be confused with the USPf or USPc 45) should be coming out in 2007. It does have different inserts to change the size of the grips (small, med, large), like the p2000. I think I'm gonna sell my USPc 9mm and get a HK45c (at the time the USPc had the smallest grip for HK's, but was still a little big/blocky for me). More info can be had at HKpro. Hope this is helpful.
I think the HK45 (not to be confused with the USPf or USPc 45) should be coming out in 2007. It does have different inserts to change the size of the grips (small, med, large), like the p2000. I think I'm gonna sell my USPc 9mm and get a HK45c (at the time the USPc had the smallest grip for HK's, but was still a little big/blocky for me). More info can be had at HKpro. Hope this is helpful.
MadMercS55
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Redhat,
My XD45 is not 100% reliable and hasn't been from the box. I suffered failures to feed several times per magazine when the XD45 was new and it still does it now. The round hits the bottom edge of the feed ramp. It does this just about every 2 rnds when using various brands of JHP ammunition. I have tried a total of 12 different magazines and it's going to be on it's third trip back to Springfield after the new year. When brand new, it exhibited this problem with both JHP and FMJ ammunition. After the 1st trip in, it was less frequent. The second time to the factory yielded perfect function with 230grn FMJ ammunition. I'm hoping third time yields 100% reliabilty all the way around. My XD45 also exhibited some rough machine marks and moldings on the interior. My XD45 is also a very early sample from what I've been told since I jumped on it when they first came out. I have right around 3k through it now and if the bugs ever get 100% worked out I'll be much happier with it. I'm not ready to give up on it yet since from all reports mine is an anomally.
My XD45 is not 100% reliable and hasn't been from the box. I suffered failures to feed several times per magazine when the XD45 was new and it still does it now. The round hits the bottom edge of the feed ramp. It does this just about every 2 rnds when using various brands of JHP ammunition. I have tried a total of 12 different magazines and it's going to be on it's third trip back to Springfield after the new year. When brand new, it exhibited this problem with both JHP and FMJ ammunition. After the 1st trip in, it was less frequent. The second time to the factory yielded perfect function with 230grn FMJ ammunition. I'm hoping third time yields 100% reliabilty all the way around. My XD45 also exhibited some rough machine marks and moldings on the interior. My XD45 is also a very early sample from what I've been told since I jumped on it when they first came out. I have right around 3k through it now and if the bugs ever get 100% worked out I'll be much happier with it. I'm not ready to give up on it yet since from all reports mine is an anomally.
hkenvy91
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the 45 tacs shoot like a dream!! i know mine does
H&k
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I have a H& K Tac and a Mark 23. I have also shot several XDs 45s and I have several custom 1911 45s.
Heres the facts "my opinion" dollar for dollar the H&K Tac or Expert for 850 to 1,000.00 is a great value. I know for a fact the Tac will shoot my old junky reloads in to a 1 hole 1.5 to 2.0 inch group at 15 yard. I cant shoot my 1500 to 3,000 customs any better. If some one said I could have only one gun it would be the H&K Tac or expert. I have shot several 45 XDS great gun for the money stock but for me I would have to have a Bar Sto barrel & a Canyon Creek trigger job.
TJ
Hi Folks
I have a H& K Tac and a Mark 23. I have also shot several XDs 45s and I have several custom 1911 45s.
Heres the facts "my opinion" dollar for dollar the H&K Tac or Expert for 850 to 1,000.00 is a great value. I know for a fact the Tac will shoot my old junky reloads in to a 1 hole 1.5 to 2.0 inch group at 15 yard. I cant shoot my 1500 to 3,000 customs any better. If some one said I could have only one gun it would be the H&K Tac or expert. I have shot several 45 XDS great gun for the money stock but for me I would have to have a Bar Sto barrel & a Canyon Creek trigger job.
TJ
MadMercS55,
Sorry to hear that. I waited and just bought one a month ago, and have had no issues of any kind.
Hope your gets fixed. I imagine it's probably an improperly cut barrel feedramp.
HK makes good stuff too. I bought an early model USP40. Had no problems with it, and it was made well, I just didn't thinik it was very size efficient for my needs, so I traded it for a G23, that held the same amount of rounds and was more compact.
Sorry to hear that. I waited and just bought one a month ago, and have had no issues of any kind.
Hope your gets fixed. I imagine it's probably an improperly cut barrel feedramp.
HK makes good stuff too. I bought an early model USP40. Had no problems with it, and it was made well, I just didn't thinik it was very size efficient for my needs, so I traded it for a G23, that held the same amount of rounds and was more compact.
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I guess this thread shows that everyone really is different.
I have (had) both. My USP was accurate, reliable, etc.
So is my XD. Actually, it's more reliable than my USP was. I also shoot it better (USP is way too big), and it's less expensive ($49 mags? No way). Owning something just because of a name is ridiculous.
People talking about the XD finish and rust...that's only with the non-45's. The XD45 is melonited and is just as tough as the Glock finish.
Talking about fit and finish being better on the HK?
Face it, ALL polymer pistols are fugly. I want pretty, I'll reach for an N-frame, 1911, or BHP.
Finally, factor in HK's ****ty customer service and the XD was an easy choice for me.
I have (had) both. My USP was accurate, reliable, etc.
So is my XD. Actually, it's more reliable than my USP was. I also shoot it better (USP is way too big), and it's less expensive ($49 mags? No way). Owning something just because of a name is ridiculous.
People talking about the XD finish and rust...that's only with the non-45's. The XD45 is melonited and is just as tough as the Glock finish.
Talking about fit and finish being better on the HK?
Face it, ALL polymer pistols are fugly. I want pretty, I'll reach for an N-frame, 1911, or BHP.
Finally, factor in HK's ****ty customer service and the XD was an easy choice for me.
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