Wrong on every point?
Trigger? Garbage. No, really it is.
I've actually never been a huge fan of any HK trigger. I wouldn't call it garbage, but certainly not ideal either.
Bigger? In every single dimension, not just length.
Weight? Heavy, and it is plastic.
Capacity? For the size, not good enough.
It is big, no denying. Not only big, but it's got big corners and virtually no contour.
Its weight is where it counts. What good does a steel grip do? I want the weight in the parts that take the abuse.
That inferior piece of pot metal you reffered to earlier? Love it or hate it, it worked on a few Nazis, Imperial Japanes, Italians, Koreans, Chinese, Viet Kong, and Other.
Nice logic for living in the stone ages. Just because something did the job in its time means we shouldn't strive to build bigger, better, meaner, badder, and more capable? I don't share your opinion.
I'm low-speed/high-drag myself, so can't speak for the ninja community, but if they think it is that awesome, imagine how good they could shoot something that didn't have a trigger that feels like a Ruger P91?
Good for you. Then I encourage you to own/operate the handgun that best fits your needs - clearly not a Mk23.
In the non-ninja world, I think the Mk23 is the firearms equivelent to a H2 Hummer. It is big, flashy, expensive, mostly purchased by rich guys as a status symbol of something that it really isn't, avoided by most people that have a clue, and worshipped by people who don't actually drive them. For example, you've got a guy in this thread who's happy to own 3, proclaims them the best thing ever, but hasn't actually shot them. Kind of like the Hummer that has never left pavement but your neighbor the real-estate guy won't shut up about his stupid H2, while the guy who off roads all the time has a beater truck that actually works but cost half.
I do own 3, I have shot none of them (I just acquired the one I plan on shooting 2 days ago and only today I picked up a thousand rounds of ammo for it and plan on meeting some buddies at the range Wednesday morning - less than 2 days from now), and I never said it is the best thing ever. I did say it was supreme in certain areas, but I also recognized that it comes with other limitations.
Comparing the Mk23 to an H2 shows your ignorance in both. The Mk23 is far more comparable to the H1 in fact. The H2 has most of the size and weight as the H1, but they stripped away all the features that make the H1 such an impressive machine. The Mk23, like the H1, is big and bulky, but there is a purpose to it and it supremely serves its purpose. Its purpose is not to be a small, slim, conceal carry pistol and it doesn't pretend to be that.
If you don't think I've actually touched a Mk23, I've got about fifty THR members that know me personally that will vouch that I've shot a couple of handguns, fair to middling well, and I'd take most of them over a Mk23.
"If you have to tell them who you are, then you ain't"
Although decently funny and probably a fun guy to hang out with at the bar, your aggressive whine-fest really diminishes the weight people are going to put into your opinion. So the Mk23 isn't the pistol for you; fine. We get it. All the fancy adjectives you've come up with can pretty much be summed up in the 4 complaints I listed that people have against the Mk23. It seems most of yours fall into the 3rd and 4th reasons. Some of us can afford 3 Mark 23's AND the other pistols AND we can objectively give credit to each pistol where it deserves because we don't have to substantiate our ego by slamming what we can't have.
an overpriced USP on steroids.
Actually, the way I understand it is that the Mk23 came before the USP and that the USP is a toned down Mk23, not the other way around. The Mk23 was designed first, then HK made a smaller civilian version of it that we call the USP.
I have owned a USP .40 for many years and even mentioned that that would probably be a better "all around .45" than the Mk23, but you seem to only want to acknowledge some of what is said so you can have verbal diarrhea (metaphorically speaking) and try to be the wise guy.
And let me ask, since you apparently don't own a Mark 23, why are you soooo concerned with the price tag? Why get on here and rant? Nobody has forced you to own one, yet you want to get on here and insult the people who own them or even admire them. I think that's interesting. You should call your mom.