Handguns For People Who Use Them

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For CCW use if I could have only one it would be a Ruger SP101 2.25" in .357Mag! There really isn't one gun fits all from my point of view. If I know going to war is a possibility in addition to CCW and range use then it would be someting along the lines of a Colt 1911 or Ruger KP345 or HK USP 45F or Sig P220 in .45acp or ?????????? Wake me up when SHTF I will decide then. :D


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HITBACKFIRST - "If you were in a position where there was a significant chance of actually using your handgun in a fight (as opposed to carrying but knowing there is only a very slight chance of ever using it in a fight) what handgun would you choose?"

What I carry now, and have been carrying for years. My Colt Lightweight Commander, .45 ACP, with MMC Hi-Vis sights, a Bar-Sto barrel, match lightweight trigger, eight round magazine, plus one extra eight round magazine.

If I can't handle it with that, I figure I should adhere to a line of dialogue in an ancient movie...
"Feets, don't fail me now!" :)

L.W.
 
ehhh...kind of a silly question. General response is whatever you are used to shooting, because that's what you shoot the best. I personally would choose my CZ-75 or XD-9 because I'm a 9mm guy and I'm used to shooting with them.

But my real answer is none of the above. Pistols are marginal weapons that buy you time to get to the real guns. I'll use my 9mm to get to my gun safe, get my AK-47 with 30 rounds of 7.62x39mm and I'm good to go ;)
Then I'm also gonna sling Benelli along for extra firePOWAH!! No pistol firefight for me...that's for movies and novices ;)
 
Based solely on my own personal experience with what I have shot, I would go with a Ruger P90. Mine has been absolutely reliable, it is accurate, and it is nothing if not rugged. Of the "combat" guns I have shot seriously and feel totally comfortable with, that would be the winner, with the 1911 coming in second. There might be "better" guns out there, but I have owned my P90for a long, long time and it has never let me down.
 
The best gun I've ever shot with was my buddy's Sig 229. As far as guns I have owned, I like my Glock 23 just fine. Small enough to carry, enough capacity and caliber to get the job done, and I shoot it pretty darn well to boot.
 
These day's my 'one' carry piece would be my Browning High Power, factory Chromed and Novak tweaked, with 16 rounds of Cor-Bon DPX.

Home defense my 'one' weapon would be either of my Kimber warriors with an X200B light, or the Glock 34 with same light.

If I was marching to the guns again, I would probably go with 'one' of my Warriors.

My 'one' BUG is a S&W 642 or 638 with Crimson Trace grips

How is that for just one sidearm?

Go figure.

Fred
 
If I would have to use a gun for defensive purposes, it would need to have relatively high capacity and be reliable. Although I shoot my Sigs well and like the inherent accuracy of 1911s, I would chose my H&K USP in .40S&W for my sole defensive handgun.
 
If I walked into a room full of pistols to choose one for a looming fight, I would walk out with a HK. Doesn't really matter which one...they all work, but I'd prefer a big .45 HK.
 
A box stock P series DA/SA SIG in any caliber, but I'd prefer one with a high cap mag.
 
The simple answer is to choose the one that you are most confident with. If that's a Colt 1873 SAA, then go with it.

I hear the statement a lot to the effect that a handgun is used to fight your way to a rifle with...in a trunk or behind the seat of a pickup truck, etc.

While a rifle is what I'd choose if I knew that I was going into a fight, I'd say that the notion of fighting one's way to the secured long gun is pretty fanciful. Do you suppose that the people who are shooting at you will hold their fire and just stand there while you do that? Or, would it be more reasonable to believe that they'll take advantage of the fact that you shifted your attention and use the opportunity to flank you or change to a more advantageous position and wait for you to reappear? Remember that at the point you divert your eyes from the business at hand...they know where you are and they know where they are. You only know where you are. You're behind the curve starting right...there.

That's a dead man's curve.

Ask yourself a simple question. If the positions were reversed, and you saw your would-be killer trying to get into a trunk or behind the seat of a truck...would you stand there and let him do it? Or would you assume that he's going for a rifle and do everything that you could to neutralize that threat?

So...Carry the gun that you shoot best. The gun that is the more reliable. The gun that you feel most confident with...and don't count on being able to fight your way to anything. These things only rarely go down the way we think they will, and sometimes the best that you can hope for is to be able to fight your way out of the kill zone, and it will lilkely be with what you have in your hand.

On a final note...You as a private citizen, carrying a sidearm for personal defense...probably shouldn't entertain visions of engaging in a running gun battle with the bad guys. For one thing...it's a good way to get shot all to Helen Gone, and for another...it makes you part of the problem, and charged with being a willing participant...or even one of the aggressors. Your goal is to get home alive. If that means laying down fire until you can escape...you've reached your goal.
 
That Kimber they're using would be fine, provided I got to shoot about a thousand rounds through it to prove out reliability.

Absent that, my Glock 17 or 21. I read somewhere (one of the many gun rags that have covered this story) that the SIS formerly was issued Glock 21s, and some are holding onto them.
 
1911 tuner...I don't think that you are fully understanding the saying " handgun is used to fight your way to...." in a sense that you are shifting your attention from the current gun battle to go out of your way to get the long gun so that your assailant can shoot you in the back.

It's more of a figurative thought...pistols are more easily accessible, so if that's what you can get to, then that's what you get to, but if there is an opportunity to get to the long gun, that's what you go for. If I can get to my long gun first, that's what I'm gonna but because I have 2 small gun vaults with pistols that I can access with keypads with ease, I'll most likely get to them before I can get to my big gun safe...as we all know, some gun is better than no gun, but if I can have some gun and get myself to a big gun, then I will.....(not in the middle of a gun battle)
 
I don't think that you are fully understanding the saying

I understand it on a very deep level. I also understand that some people read these things and think it sounds good...or cool, or whatever...and give it a try in the real world on the rare occasion that they really have to fight for their lives. I try to gently remind them that: "When somebody is actively trying to kill you...you have to be lucky every time he pulls the trigger. He only has to get lucky once."
 
1911, but not that stupid SIS with the stupid SIS slide serrations that appear to be absolutely useless - ESPECIALLY in a real fighting gun.

--jcd
 
I understand it on a very deep level. I also understand that some people read these things and think it sounds good...or cool, or whatever...and give it a try in the real world on the rare occasion that they really have to fight for their lives. I try to gently remind them that: "When somebody is actively trying to kill you...you have to be lucky every time he pulls the trigger. He only has to get lucky once."

Being lucky goes both ways. That's why I go for the long gun/shot gun so that I don't have to be as lucky. If you understand that to a very deep level, I'm not so sure why you have resistance to this idea of seeking a better weapon--your scenario of leaving a gun battle to go get a rifle is an absurd and misleading interpretation.
 
usp tactical. oh wait... i live in california and i can't have one :[

fine... another usp .45
 
The same one I carried on duty and since then, a S&W N frame, 45 ACP, 4" skinny barrel.
 
I hear the statement a lot to the effect that a handgun is used to fight your way to a rifle with...in a trunk or behind the seat of a pickup truck, etc.

While a rifle is what I'd choose if I knew that I was going into a fight, I'd say that the notion of fighting one's way to the secured long gun is pretty fanciful. Do you suppose that the people who are shooting at you will hold their fire and just stand there while you do that? Or, would it be more reasonable to believe that they'll take advantage of the fact that you shifted your attention and use the opportunity to flank you or change to a more advantageous position and wait for you to reappear? Remember that at the point you divert your eyes from the business at hand...they know where you are and they know where they are. You only know where you are. You're behind the curve starting right...there.

That's a dead man's curve.

Thank you 1911tuner! I've been waiting years for some one to kick that damn "sacred" cow over.
 
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