I recently bought a Glock 19 and have fired it just 100 times. In those 100 rounds, I have had 3 jams and I'm not too sure what's going on. All I heard was the great reviews about these guns and the 3rd round I attempted to shoot was a jam. I'm just wondering if anyone has experienced this, or if it's just one of those crazy flukes.
Has anyone ever had problems with the Glock 19 jamming?
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ljnowell
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I dont consider myself a glock guy, but I do own one and have shot plenty of them. That being said, did you field strip the gun prior to shooting? If so did you oil it? How much oil did you use? Too much oil can mess up a glocks functioning. Another thing, have you ever shot a glock before? If not, limpwristing is a possibility. It seems to be more prevelant, in my experience with the smaller calibers like a 9mm.
Lone_Gunman
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Look at the plastic follower on the magazine. How is it stamped?
The Lone Haranguer
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"Jams" can take several forms. Without knowing what happens to the round when the stoppage occurs it is tough to diagnose.
My own, when I first got it in 1998, fed all FMJs fine but would nose-dive the last round of a hollowpoint into the edge of the bottom of the feed ramp, where the edge of the cavity caught. The pointy round nose of the FMJ would allow it to skid up over this edge and still feed. This was due to a magazine follower problem. They were replaced with followers bearing the marking "9mm3," solving the problem. The only other stoppages I've had are very random failures to eject. The fired case will sort of lie on top of the next round in the magazine, partway out of the chamber.
My own, when I first got it in 1998, fed all FMJs fine but would nose-dive the last round of a hollowpoint into the edge of the bottom of the feed ramp, where the edge of the cavity caught. The pointy round nose of the FMJ would allow it to skid up over this edge and still feed. This was due to a magazine follower problem. They were replaced with followers bearing the marking "9mm3," solving the problem. The only other stoppages I've had are very random failures to eject. The fired case will sort of lie on top of the next round in the magazine, partway out of the chamber.
glockgod
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The only trouble I've had with Glocks is when I've reloaded ammo for them. Glocks don't like limp wristed grips and they don't like wimpy reloads.If you handload ammo for Glock pistols it'd better be perfect or you're gonna have problems!!
I have and do own several different Glocks, also I reload for them and have gone from strong to mild reloads with never a hiccup except when I learned Glocks hate SWC bullets.
As an IDPA Safety Officer I get a close up look at all kinds of pistols in operation several times a month. I can tell you that when a Glock has a problem it is pretty rare. Bad ammo or a broken trigger spring are the most common issues next to home gunsmithing or non standard parts. Normally Glocks are very trouble free.
Limp wristing is a major problem with Glocks and many other semi autos, the guns needs a firm hold to let everything operate like it should.
I would check/change your ammo, check your grip/shooting style and if nothing improves, you might have a very rare Glock lemon!
As an IDPA Safety Officer I get a close up look at all kinds of pistols in operation several times a month. I can tell you that when a Glock has a problem it is pretty rare. Bad ammo or a broken trigger spring are the most common issues next to home gunsmithing or non standard parts. Normally Glocks are very trouble free.
Limp wristing is a major problem with Glocks and many other semi autos, the guns needs a firm hold to let everything operate like it should.
I would check/change your ammo, check your grip/shooting style and if nothing improves, you might have a very rare Glock lemon!
Deanimator
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I wouldn't consider 3 jams in 100 rounds out of a brand new gun that out of line.
Fire another 200-400 rounds through it and see what it does.
I've got a 2nd Generation Glock 19 and I don't think I've had ANY failures in it.
What kind of ammunition are you using?
michiganfan
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mine has been 100 per cent
This gun is used so it's not brand new. I don't know if that makes it more proned to jams or not. I have only shot it on one occasion and don't believe I was limp-wristing. I used blazer 9mm luger ammo for the 100 rounds that I shot. In response to a question before, this is the first Glock that I have owned. The magazine could be a problem.
Snarlingiron
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Sorry, but on a Glock 19 I disagree. I have about 12,000 rounds through mine, most of it CCI aluminum cased ammo. I can think of about maybe 6 malfunctions during that time. Three of those where when I first got the pistol and were limp wristing issues. Adjusting my grip eliminated those. A couple of others were traced to a magazine that had a dime...that's right a dime in it. It had to have worked its way in there in my range bag when I dumped a pocket full of loose change in it.
I personally consider 1 malfunction in 1000 rounds to be the lower limit of acceptability.
Have an experienced friend give it a try. Try another magazine. If you are still having issues take it to a Glock armorer. Forget the ammo, Glocks are generally indifferent to ammo. Malfunctions on Glocks, particularly the 19 are not the norm. Certainly they happen, but they are not the norm.
armoredman
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Several, all at Dept ranges. Did you buy it used? Limp wristing is a really big problem with Glocks, in my humble experiance.
Lone_Gunman
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I disagree. I think you might have talked to too many Kimber customer service agents if you believe that!
A new Glock is very unlikely to jam, and should not require the supposed break in period that marginally fitted 1911s require. I don't mean to be bashing 1911s in general, just ones manufactured by makers who will tell you to break it in with 500 rounds and then call them back.I think you may have just found out why the gun was being sold.
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3 jams in a Glock in one outing is extremely rare, and I have a hard time believing these stories without live video. I'm not buying the initial story here. I have yet to see a Glock jam more than once in a session at the range, and is almost never gun related - ammo, extreme limp wristing etc. I had 1 jam since I owned my Glocks (7 years) and it was due to a damaged casing. Even used Glocks practically perform flawlessly. I'm sorry, but are you sure you purchased a Glock?
bubbaturbo
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JEEZ. One of the most condescending posts I've ever read.
kimber98
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Aluminum, as in Blazer cases, can get a little sticky on sliding parts including feed ramps and slides, etc. Not saying that it is bad ammo, but your gun just might not like it because of tighter tolerances on a part or two. You might try cleaning your weapon with a nitro solvent and a brass brush for several minutes to work any aluminum out of any porous surfaces that you may have. After that, lightly oil the gun then wipe it down with an old t-shirt. Then get some generic brass cased ball ammo and put another couple of hundred rounds thru it. If you are still having problems, have a factory rep take a look at it. I have a couple of 19's that I bought new over 20 years ago, and they required a couple hundred rounds before they reached the flawless state. I also have a 2 year old glock that I had to send back for a factory rebuild because of jams and verticle strings of 1-2 foot at 25 feet (it also is now flawless). Incidentally, the old 19 that I keep on my nightstand has over14000 rounds thru it and it hasn't jammed in the last 20 years.
Another scenario that you might consider is that your gun might have been altered with non-factory parts or "cleaned up" by a non-factory gunsmith or tinkerer to it's "improved" state.
Whatever... try the cleaning and ball ammo first. Bet it will work.
PS.. my kimber took a LOT of ammo to smoothe out. My 454 taurus raging bull... none.....
Another scenario that you might consider is that your gun might have been altered with non-factory parts or "cleaned up" by a non-factory gunsmith or tinkerer to it's "improved" state.
Whatever... try the cleaning and ball ammo first. Bet it will work.
PS.. my kimber took a LOT of ammo to smoothe out. My 454 taurus raging bull... none.....
RON in PA
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I had a Glock 19 that was 100% with any brand of ball ammo, but would jam frequently with HP ammo. Notice I said had.
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let someone else shoot it, if it jams, the gun has issues, If not then you are limpng the gun. very easy to check out that problem.
Glocks don't need break in but maybe yours does to, Clean it, lube it properly and then just shoot it like you stole it...
let someone else shoot it, if it jams, the gun has issues, If not then you are limpng the gun. very easy to check out that problem.
Glocks don't need break in but maybe yours does to, Clean it, lube it properly and then just shoot it like you stole it...
Lone_Gunman
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If this Glock is 10 or so years old, it very well could be the follower Glock was using back then. For some reason, they switched to a flat follower around the mid 1990's at about the same time as the high capacity magazine ban came out. These followers were labelled 2183. Check your magazine followers. If they are labelled 2183, you need to replace them.
I purchased a new G-19 about this time last year and took it out with the factory copper/gold colored grease on it. I had several issues with it that first time out. Got home and stripped it completely down, cleaned it well, and oiled it. I haven't had a single issue with it since. I have spoken with others who had similar situations with the factory grease.
I don't know why they would have, but it's always a possibility that the previous owner used the same stuff. Or limp wristing. I agree that it shouldn't be the ammo.
I don't know why they would have, but it's always a possibility that the previous owner used the same stuff. Or limp wristing. I agree that it shouldn't be the ammo.
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