the FN Five-Seven

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Sorry, Storm, not wrong. Not wrong at all.

The gun was never, NEVER, intended for civilian hands. I was around when FN patently said so. The early ones that DID get into civilian hands were not in any way intended to get into civilian hands. I am not making anything up. Do not accuse me of lying. Do not do it again. Do not.


The civilian round is nothing special and hardly worth getting worked up over. Prices are stable because the levels of demand do not meet, by any margin, other levels. So, a pistol that is no better made than a SIG, Glock, or CZ, but is 50% or 100% more expensive due mostly to its novelty (artificially inflated in the beginning when FN announced it would not be made available to civilians), and shoots a round that is not impressive at all but costs the same as other far more accepted rounds is your cup of tea. Fine. To get the round it is designed for, you can spend $10 to $15 per round, or more than $500 per box. Enjoy.

But, not everyone will agree with you.
 
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To get the round it is designed for, you can spend $10 to $15 per round, or more than $500 per box. Enjoy.
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But that is not the round that the 5-7 was sold for to civilians nor was it advetised as being sold for the SS190. That is what I said you were making up. It was never advertised for civilian sales for use with the SS190. The SS190 has been and continues to be restricted, not illegal, and any realistic discussion deals with the gun as commonly shot. You brought up the SS190.

I really don't care what you think of the gun, but I will correct your inaccuracies.
 
It was never intended for civilian sales in the first place. And, the ammo around which it was designed is not generally available because it is armor piercing. The round available to civilians is an afterthought, they are not the rounds which it, or the P90, are intended to fire.

Therefore, the rounds for which it is intended are insanely expensive. The other rounds, which are generally available to civilians but are not the rounds the pistol was designed to shoot, are reasonably priced these days because the demand pressure just isn't there.

Ash
 
And that is all ancient history and all of that makes the gun no less accurate, smooth, fun to shoot, or good at taking out pigs as Ed Laver suggests. Trotting out the SS190 is downright silly considering many folks have found use and enjoyment from the gun as is with commonly found ammo.

No big deal to me. Plenty of other guns out there for those who dislike it. No big deal at all.

Oh, and as to caling you a liar, if I think you are a liar I will say so directly and to your face. And then you can hit me and I can sue you and own all of your guns. So there. Lighten up. This is supposed to be about having some fun and if I say that you are "making stuff up" it is done with tongue in cheek. Sheesh. Forgot the smiley face...

And the Desert Eagle is a novelty...now them is fighting words (smiley face, and maybe with a wink).
 
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I would highly recommend it! Lots of BS going on about the 5.7.......

Ash: have you compared the SS190 to the SS195. The SS195 has the exact same performance as SS190 except against armor. Its hardly an after thought. FN deosn't screw around.

Facts:
I've had excellent reliability from the 5.7, I've had excellent reliability with every FN gun I've ever owned.

The 5.7x28mm round is effective. I also took a hog with SS195, it wasn't pretty. I find the round to be more effective than 9mm, exactly as FN claims.


SS197 and SS195 are available. They cost about the same as .45ACP target ammo. Keep in mind that SS195 is a HP defensive round thats alot cheaper than HP's for .45, .357 etc. Very clean, good ammo.

The 5.7x28mm round was desighned for the P90. It was desighned to outperform the 9mm HK MP5. I strongly believe they acomplished that. If your comfortable useing a 9mm pistol for defense then you'll probally be ok with SS195.

Plus's:
Lightweight
Accurate
FN
Light recoil
High capacity
Reliable
Aftermarket HP ammo is now available.
DAO or DA/SA available (I think their both still being made.)

Minus's:
Costs more than your average carry gun.
No compact version, it really isn't the smallest gun.
Kinda fugly, I like the Green one.
 
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SS190 is not "perfectly legal". It is perfectly illegal in many states which more broadly define armor piercing - including Texas and Florida by the way. In those states, and others, it is a felony. You must make sure it is legal in your state. It is not, therefore, perfectly legal.

I have no fault for those who like the pistol. But don't tell those of us who do not to keep quiet. I assure you we will not.
 
And here I was led to believe that it was just a hunk of plastic and steel. As it turns out, the gun elicits very strong reactions. Generally speaking, the truth lies somewhere in between. Monkeys shot with the 5.7 will not burst into flames, and it's not just a .22 magnum.

To add to what the OP was looking for, it is indeed reliable. It is also accurate, and I have never heard of wear issues. The gun is on the large side, but I don't see it as a CCW gun either. Don't let all of the hype surrounding this gun overshadow the fact that it may well be worthy of owning. As to the price, that is up to each to decide based on our means and desires. I generally don't worry about what is in someone else's wallet so I don't try and suggest what they should spend. Opinions will vary on this gun, as you will have seen. You will make up your own mind.
 
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Sounds like a great round....WHEN YOU CAN HIT A DANGEROUS ANIMAL IN THE EAR OR THE EYE.

I have no problems with the durability of the gun itself. I mean, after all, those plastic Glocks turned out to be SO fragile, right? My brother-in-law has one, and it's fun to shoot, but it's way down in the list for my gun I would use when....I'm trying to shoot through a car but I can't get a rifle.

Look at a .22 mag fired from a rifle barrel, compare that to the numbers on this round coming from a pistol barrel, it's not THAT great.
 
All I can say is it is a blast to shoot.Very accurate.I only have 200 rounds through mine but no FTF or FTE.
I would'nt hesitate to carry one.I would like to pick up a used one for a backup or car gun.If the sh** hits the fan having 20 shots is a plus.
Time will tell but thus far I am pleased with mine.
 
Budsgunshop.com has a used FN Five seveN for $799 delivered. However I personaly would give myself a graduation gift in 9mm, .40S&W or .45acp. Maybe even a .22 target pistol... like a Beretta 87 Target... You will only become proficient with handguns through repetition, a lot of repetitions, practice, practice, practice.
Give us a post with your new purchase/gift, and as always post pictures!
It is a good idea to start your extensive collection with a "classic" caliber and go from there IMHO.
 
It's a niche gun, but I fall into that niche, and find it great fun, highly reliable, and accurate. I don't think that I'd carry it for SD enven though I have a nice Galco holster for it. It's a big large, but lightweight.

I prefer my Sig P229 give a choice, but the FN gets a lot of range use. I was lucky enought to get one lightly used.
 
CDNN lists the 5-7 in their weekly sales, NIB for $907 w/ free shipping. That's a pretty good price...lowest I've seen for new.
 
Oh totally. I pwned so many noobs with it.
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That's an aspect of shooting that I have totally missed. By the times that games like these came out I had been shooting real guns for many years. The last video game that I played, a lifetime ago, was Atari Backgammon. Not much shooting in that one ;)

I think with this deabte over guns like the 5-7 we have the old "two perspectives" issue. In general, at the extremes, there seems to be one group who can "justify" owning a gun for the pure pleasure of shooting it, and, another group who see guns as tools and each must be maximized for a particular purpose. These are the extremes and I think that most folks have guns that fall at one extreme or the other. For me the 5-7 falls somewhere along that continuum. I enjoy the gun as it is a pleasure to shoot, is unique representing some fairly cutting edge engineering, and is accurate with a high capacity. At the same time I recognize that it wouldn't be my first choice for self-defense but could be pressed into service for that role and would most likely be effective enough to get by. I have plenty of guns that fill that role very well as it is. The 5-7 is accurate a good deal further out than most duty pistols, but in SD those ranges aren't really relevant, for the most part, and, a lighter bullet is going to lose its energy much quicker at distance. There are pluses and minuses to the gun and the very first thing that one should do, the way that I see it, is put all of the hype, both pro and con, aside and evaluate the gun based on your own needs.
 
It is a great pistol and round. It has taken some work, but I have finally mastered reloading the 5.7. There is rarely a tread on this board that can avoid the 'buy a Kimber in 45' reply. Go with what you want. The 57 is a good choice.
 
It really is OK to own and shoot a gun because it is FUN, interesting, and a novelty. The FN is an unusual choice for a first gun, most are .22, .38 spl., or 9mm. People own guns for a host of reasons. I have a friend who has 5 different types of 9mm semi autos, I owned:.22lr, .380, 9mm, .45acp semi autos all at the same time. A good quality 9mm SA will cost you far less, and be more versatile, but if the FN floats your boat, cast off. My guess it that once the bug bites you, you will have several guns in your cabinet shortly!:D
 
i already own several guns..over 14. its just i am looking for a novelty gun like a desert eagle or something most people dont have. i own a 9mm, 2 45's, and several others.
 
MaddJ, I did not even read all of the replies to your post....people are all over the map about this pistol...can you say plastic VS metal....comes close. I have had a 57 for 2 years and love the gun. I have probably put 3k rounds down the pipe with not even one ftf or fte. Ammo is cheap and available ( compared to some today). The gun is very accurate out of the box and a blast to shoot. My only complaint is that it is a bit large for a day to day ccw.

Now granted I bought mine for $800 big ones back in the day but I would never part with it, IT'S A GREAT PISTOL.

Buy it you will love it.
 
I would buy one if the price were a more reasonable $400. I think a lot of people would.
If a KelTec or somebody would bring out a reasonably priced 5.7, they would sell a bunch.
 
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