Ragnar Danneskjold
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Basically the "old timer" crowd for me that thinks the apex of technology was the 1911 and wood stock rifles.
Have fanboys ruined a gun for you?
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I must hang around with the wrong crowd, until I read this thread I had never heard of the term "fanboys". Did we just invent a new word, or am I missing something important? What's the origin of "fanboy"?
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I never heard of the term or slang until I read and posted earlier on this thread.
I have not had problems with ANY of my various brand names of firearms and I still do not think that there is such a thing as the PERFECT GUN.
Buy, own and shoot what suits you is my opinion to anyone who questions x, y or z.
I like to see/hear other people's opinions though!
Catherine
I must hang around with the wrong crowd, until I read this thread I had never heard of the term "fanboys". Did we just invent a new word, or am I missing something important? What's the origin of "fanboy"?
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I never heard of the term or slang until I read and posted earlier on this thread.
I have not had problems with ANY of my various brand names of firearms and I still do not think that there is such a thing as the PERFECT GUN.
Buy, own and shoot what suits you is my opinion to anyone who questions x, y or z.
I like to see/hear other people's opinions though!
Catherine
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Ash
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siglite,
That reminds me of a story. A friend of mine had a Mercury Capri with a 5.0 liter engine (the Capri that was the rebadged Mustang, not the later little convertible). We were on the 7 mile I-65 Mobile River bridge when another friend passed us by in his little Toyota Corolla FX-16. Joey couldn't stand having that little Corolla pass him by (it had the Supra engine in it) and so floored it. Flying down that bridge in his 5.0, he tried to catch that little hatch-back. I was sitting white-nuckled while Joey was cussing trying to catch up, but watching the butt-end of that white car as it left us behind.
It reminded me of Beep Beep about the little Nash Rambler passing the Caddie!
Ash
That reminds me of a story. A friend of mine had a Mercury Capri with a 5.0 liter engine (the Capri that was the rebadged Mustang, not the later little convertible). We were on the 7 mile I-65 Mobile River bridge when another friend passed us by in his little Toyota Corolla FX-16. Joey couldn't stand having that little Corolla pass him by (it had the Supra engine in it) and so floored it. Flying down that bridge in his 5.0, he tried to catch that little hatch-back. I was sitting white-nuckled while Joey was cussing trying to catch up, but watching the butt-end of that white car as it left us behind.
It reminded me of Beep Beep about the little Nash Rambler passing the Caddie!
Ash
coloradokevin
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Erik F said:
There's a lot of that going around in the shooting community, it would seem.
FIRST EXAMPLE:
I used to shoot at a public range when I lived in OH. I was throwing some trap with the Mrs. one day, shooting with my old Mossberg 500 pump-action all-purpose: hunting, plinking, trap, deer, rabbit, pheasant, and turkey gun (who knew that you needed a different shotgun for each species of game?).
Anyway, some rich looking early 20-something snob shows up in his Beamer with his equally "fluffy" female friends (who were apparently there for simple moral support), and pulls out several very expensive looking shotguns (can't recall brands/makes now, this was 7 years ago or so -- but very nice looking pretty guns with lots of engraving and beautiful woodwork).
His guns were nice, needless to say, but he was about as proficient with a gun as your average tree-hugging hippie.
I wouldn't have cared about how poorly he shot, as we all go to the range for some form of practice or another... But, this mental giant had the audacity to make a comment in front of us about how "people with cheap crap like that (ours!) shouldn't be able to fill up the range", or something to that effect.
Ultimately we schooled this yuppie on marksmanship... First I beat him, then my (then) future wife beat him (which always makes rich macho tough-guys want to cry)
Neither of us shoot competitive trap, so it wasn't like he was going against the best in the sport or anything... we're just simple shooting enthusiasts!I hate the folks who think this is a sport that only the rich should be able to enjoy!
SECOND EXAMPLE:
Other side of the coin was a group of young inner-city looking adults who would show up at the same range on occasion with their cheaper guns (to put them in perspective, my brother would call this group "Lincoln Park" or "Eminem", depending on his mood).
These yahoos would show up at the range and start shooting, not even bothering to set up a target. They would essentially form a defacto firing squad across the range, and proceed to blast away at no apparently intentional target (this was a clean public range with no trash, so they were just shooting at a dirt berm). Occasionally spring-time rains would leave puddles in front of the firing line, and you would even see them hitting the puddles from time-to-time.
These were the world's biggest "hi-cap" fans, and they couldn't step to the line without running through 50-100 rounds per set (again, shooting at NOTHING!)
Thank god ammo was cheap back then, cause I can't figure out what these guys were trying to accomplish! To the best of our guess, they just liked the noise... And there must be cheaper ways to make that much noise!
Best part was, they seemed only to be interested in dressing to the rap-music look. They were polite enough, and didn't seem to be looking for trouble. In fact, a range officer at this place once told me that their pleasant demeanor was the only reason he hadn't found a reason to kick them out of the facility entirely (they were borderline dangerous, but mostly just pathetic).
qajaq59
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And that's the rub really. People confuse opinions with facts.
And the minute I see a comment such as, "You're an idiot" I simply use the ignore feature and forget the guy exists. There are too far many polite and intelligent people in these forums to bother listening to the ones that aren't.
siglite
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coloradokevin,
Reminds me of my range trip LAST WEEK. Public range. Two guys and a girl pull up and get out of a caprice classic with oversized bling-bling rims and the back end jacked up. Bass thumpin'. They walk up to the line and unpack a couple of ARs and a tiny pink rifle. They load up, and start doing the spray/pray thing. Now, I'm not the kind of guy to judge. Because, honestly, if I hadn't joined the corps, at 18-19 years old, I probably would've been exactly like these kids. And hey, these "kids" can vote. So they're no threat to me. They're being safe. They're just burning up ammo. Sure, it's a waste, and they're shooting 10 foot groups. But I'm not about to go "gun snob" or "accuracy snob" on 'em. I keep my opinions to my self. I just quietly ring my little steel plate from the offhand down at the 100yd line. I've noticed that actually hitting stuff you're shooting at tends to garner some credibility among folks. If I'm down there ringing my little plate, or doing draw/fire/reload drills, if I talk, people tend to listen.
Then I can't take it anymore. During a break.... "hey, is that a cricket?"'
Gangstalicious replies "Yeah."
"Hah! Awesome!"
The girl replies "THANK YOU!"
Gagstalicious and his pal exchange glances as I just nod, smile, and return to loading my mag.
A few minutes later, out of the corner of my eye, I notice Gangstalicious has picked up the cricket. And he's loading one shot at a time (since that's all you can do with a cricket) and is actually trying to hit a target. He wasn't doing a very good job. But he was trying! And so was his girl!
And you know what? I feel bad. I feel bad because I made some assumptions. I assumed that a young guy in hip, trendy, baggy clothes might have taken it as some sort of insult if I'd walked up, and offered to shrink his group sizes by at least two feet with ten minutes of instruction. I assumed he'd be too hard headed and he'd think he knew it all already. I assumed he'd view it as being "dissed" in front of his girl. I assumed a lot of negative things about these guys, because of the way they were dressed, and because clearly, no one anywhere had ever taken the time to actually teach them to shoot. And as such, I didn't offer. And I feel bad about it. I feel like one of these clowns we're all describing in this thread.
And remember. At 17, my clothes were different (ripped up jeans, long heavy-metal hair, ragged field jacket with DIO drawn in sharpie on the back) but I was Just Like These Kids. If not for the Corps, would anyone have taken the time to actually teach me?
Reminds me of my range trip LAST WEEK. Public range. Two guys and a girl pull up and get out of a caprice classic with oversized bling-bling rims and the back end jacked up. Bass thumpin'. They walk up to the line and unpack a couple of ARs and a tiny pink rifle. They load up, and start doing the spray/pray thing. Now, I'm not the kind of guy to judge. Because, honestly, if I hadn't joined the corps, at 18-19 years old, I probably would've been exactly like these kids. And hey, these "kids" can vote. So they're no threat to me. They're being safe. They're just burning up ammo. Sure, it's a waste, and they're shooting 10 foot groups. But I'm not about to go "gun snob" or "accuracy snob" on 'em. I keep my opinions to my self. I just quietly ring my little steel plate from the offhand down at the 100yd line. I've noticed that actually hitting stuff you're shooting at tends to garner some credibility among folks. If I'm down there ringing my little plate, or doing draw/fire/reload drills, if I talk, people tend to listen.
Then I can't take it anymore. During a break.... "hey, is that a cricket?"'
Gangstalicious replies "Yeah."
"Hah! Awesome!"
The girl replies "THANK YOU!"
Gagstalicious and his pal exchange glances as I just nod, smile, and return to loading my mag.
A few minutes later, out of the corner of my eye, I notice Gangstalicious has picked up the cricket. And he's loading one shot at a time (since that's all you can do with a cricket) and is actually trying to hit a target. He wasn't doing a very good job. But he was trying! And so was his girl!
And you know what? I feel bad. I feel bad because I made some assumptions. I assumed that a young guy in hip, trendy, baggy clothes might have taken it as some sort of insult if I'd walked up, and offered to shrink his group sizes by at least two feet with ten minutes of instruction. I assumed he'd be too hard headed and he'd think he knew it all already. I assumed he'd view it as being "dissed" in front of his girl. I assumed a lot of negative things about these guys, because of the way they were dressed, and because clearly, no one anywhere had ever taken the time to actually teach them to shoot. And as such, I didn't offer. And I feel bad about it. I feel like one of these clowns we're all describing in this thread.
And remember. At 17, my clothes were different (ripped up jeans, long heavy-metal hair, ragged field jacket with DIO drawn in sharpie on the back) but I was Just Like These Kids. If not for the Corps, would anyone have taken the time to actually teach me?
76shuvlinoff
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got a 5" kimber 1911
got 3.5" SA 1911
got a XD40sc
got a WWII walther P38
damn it they all seem to work
The more I read the pissin and moanin about Glocks and revolvers the more I want one, I'm wired like that.
got 3.5" SA 1911
got a XD40sc
got a WWII walther P38
damn it they all seem to work
The more I read the pissin and moanin about Glocks and revolvers the more I want one, I'm wired like that.
Aguila Blanca
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Au contraire, mon ami. It has been my experience that those discussions tend to go on interminably, because when a "true believer" (which is my term for the type of person described) encounters a perceived derogatory comment, they will persist in hammering anyone infected with the heresy until they have driven all contenders from the field. They are, in fact, a lot like liberals: Their minds are made up, and they cannot be swayed by either facts or logic.Sato Ord said:
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icebones
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glock or 1911
chevy or ford
in the end, i shoot any gun as long as it works.
and drive any truck as long as its American made.
nuff said
chevy or ford
in the end, i shoot any gun as long as it works.
and drive any truck as long as its American made.
nuff said
Eightball
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Simple solution--ignore the fanboys, do your own research with people you know, spend your money how you like, then train to school the fanboys at the range. Doesn't matter how much their rifle costs if they can't shoot.
Hey, Siglite!
Reading your description, I could really relate to it. Sounded like my local range/shooters which is Kanawha State Forest. THEN I noticed where you are. Cool. But I suppose it could have been anywhere that there are new shooters.
It's hard to know what to say which will uplift others without them having a negative reaction. The human mind is interesting and frustrating. So I just try to be friendly and do my own thing.
On "Fanboys", that's a new term to me but I guess I know the type. I suppose I've been overly enthusiastic about my own stuff at some point. Hope I gave some people a good laugh. There is no excuse for a rude or insulting attitude though. That's just poor upbringing. You can't blame the rude fanboy's gun for his behaviour though. You would eliminate some good gun choices that way.
Reading your description, I could really relate to it. Sounded like my local range/shooters which is Kanawha State Forest. THEN I noticed where you are. Cool. But I suppose it could have been anywhere that there are new shooters.
It's hard to know what to say which will uplift others without them having a negative reaction. The human mind is interesting and frustrating. So I just try to be friendly and do my own thing.
On "Fanboys", that's a new term to me but I guess I know the type. I suppose I've been overly enthusiastic about my own stuff at some point. Hope I gave some people a good laugh. There is no excuse for a rude or insulting attitude though. That's just poor upbringing. You can't blame the rude fanboy's gun for his behaviour though. You would eliminate some good gun choices that way.
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