Have fanboys ruined a gun for you?

[Ash]

Probably the most obnoxious thing fanboys do is interject their own toy into a discussion completely unrelated to their toy. For instance, "I would like a scope and am comparing a Nikon Monarch to a Bushnell elite 4200. Which do you like?"

Fanboy jumps up and says "Leupold, 'nuff said."

Or,

"I am looking for a 308 battle rifle. I have narrowed my choice between an AR-10 and a PTR-91."

Fanboy jumps up and screams "M14, better than all the rest."

or

"I want a polygun and can't decide whether I want a Steyr M9 or an XD in 9."

Fanboy says "Glock 17. Can't mess with perfection."

It has no effect on my purchase decisions, but dad gum I hate when fanboy sticks his nose into conversations and hijacks them.

Ash

 

[Ltlabner]

While I have probably been a little too enthuisastic for Glocks at times, I think a good point is made that you have to recoginze that all mechanical devices have flaws. And you have to sift the truth from the people slamming a particular product for their own adgenda.

There's been some KB's with Glocks, but they don't all explode with regularity either.

AR's do need to be kept clean, but they aren't range queens either.

Moisins do have recoil, but they aren't going to smack you into the next week either.

AK's are suspect on accuracy, but they aren't all hidious either.

It seems there is a direct correlation between people not really knowing what they are talking about and the fervent nature of their fanboy-ness.

 

[Lashlarue]

Hi Point is a sorry company that turns out pot metal, jammamatic, pieces of crap and won't warranty them(From a gunshop owner)

http://hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=bb47893424fa9f0284fad16eba0f327e There are a thousand actual owners who will disagree with you.And hundreds of examples where Hi-point not only repaired the gun but sent along a couple of extra magazines for your trouble. Unlike Kahr -Auto-ordnance who told me to order my broken parts on my $1000 Thompson from gun parts.com at my expense.So far my Hi-point has 300 trouble free rounds through it, which is three times as many as I was able to fire in the Thompson, albeit not in a row....

 

[33-805]

They do get annoying, (I had not seen the "Fanbois" spelling, very funny!) but some of them, at least the more polite ones are sincere. I do think that a few of them honestly think they are helping. We all have our predjudices. I used 1911s for many years then switched to Glocks and I have always used S&W revolvers. I have used, owned, been issued many things over the years and if I did not like it, I canned it if I could.

This is a bad paraphrase, but I love movies. Robert DeNiro in Ronin, "It's a toolbox, you put things in etc." when he was asked by a "Mall Ninja" character what he carried. His logic still rings true with me.

I use whatever I need at the time, that's why I have more than one gun. But no, neither the fanbois opinion or that of anyone else affects me or my purchasing very much. Besides, Mall Ninjas, Fanbois and Gunshop Commandoes are a real source of enjoyment and quality humor. Let's not quiet them down too much!!

 

[MarcusWendt]

SOME Glock owners, very much fanboys, have just "reinforced" my dislike of Glocks. I was never a fan, but there are many guns I shot and didn't care for, but the "Glock Perfection" mentality really makes me dislike Glocks even more.

I'm always amused when a Glock Fanboy will claim that Glocks are 100% reliable, and perfect out of the box, and then in the same thread tell you that because Glocks are so popular there are a million people who work on them and tons of add ons available. Wait, I thought they were perfect out of the box.

I may end up owning a Glock some day since the Glock 20 is one of my few options in 10MM, but I KNOW they aren't perfect.

I think we are fortunate to live in a time and country where we have so many quality firearms available to chose from. The best gun is only the best gun FOR YOU. Not for everyone.

Sadly, and I say this as a fellow gun owner, we as a group tend to very loyal, opinionated, and vocal. It's kind of the nature of a group of people who appreciate freedom and tend to be very patriotic. We don't shrink from a fight, we hit it head on. Unfortunately it often leads to an attitude fanboyism for some.

 

[steveracer]

My wife and I were setting up targets at an indoor range in VA Beach. These guys in the lane next to ours were shooting an HK USC at 15 meters. They were making ok groups...FOR A SHOTGUN!!
My darling wife proceeded to shoot a FAR tighter group at 25 Meters with her Makarov, and then another very nice little clover leaf at 25 Meters with 1oz Slugs from her 870. The guys just packed up and left. Sad, I wanted to try that USC out, but I don't think letting them shoot my Model 13 would have been the right collateral.
I used to be an M-14 fanboy, till I had to carry one around in Afghan. I now have an M-16A2, and It not only weighs three less pounds, but it shoots beautifully, and has run really well since I put my boots on the ground.

 

[DougDubya]

The anti-HK crowd makes me like HK's based on their general feel.

Has anyone really held a 2x4? I dunno, maybe I have mutant hands, 'cuz I also liked the 39/59 series from Smith and Ogre called them mutant guns too.

 

[The Tourist]

refusing to accept the known...issues.

It's not just in the area of firearms. I've heard basically the same conversations over knives, over cars, over motorcycles...

I think people get to a point in life where they are no longer interested in oncoming technology. Time stops. In that regard, they need to justify the choices they have made.

For example, I routinely have guys come up to me with the idea that carbon steel is better for knives than any stainless alloy.

I tell them the truth. The newer stuff (CPM-154, BG-42, S30V) is so good that the debate was settled years ago. Perhaps decades. Custom knife-maker Bob Loveless shifted over to 154-CM in the 1970's.

Then the guy gets frumpy. He'll counter, "Well, I know a retired butcher who won't use anything else..."

I remind him that these old Oscar Mayer boners worked in the 1940's through the 1960's. They constantly touched up their knives--and destroyed most of them with excessive and poor skills in sharpening. The knives that still remain are ruined. I take any jackknife out of my pocket and silently slit any piece of paper on my work-stand.

They walk away grumbling.

The Hemi-Cuda of song and legend used a 426 ci engine to make horsepower. The 440-Wedge version made more torque.

Today, a 4.6 Liter (280 ci) Ford Mustang with factory modified engines--but still sold stock off the showroom floor like the original hemispherical engines--beat those figures.

You cannot tell an old gear-head that. He'll dig through 40 years of old car magazines to trip you up with figures germane to a car so primitive it's drum brakes could never get the thing stopped. My Ford F-150 uses a superior frame just to haul cargo.

Again, you are wrong to point it out, you will always be wrong, in fact, you knew nothing when you started the debate.

Just nod your head. The guy will go away to bore someone else.

 

[hill billy]

I personally can't stand the word fanboy, it just sounds juvenile.

I now own three glocks so I guess I have drunk a bit of the kool aid. I like the way they feel in my hand, they shoot well for me and I can afford them, most notabley three for the price if a decent 1911. There's lots of guns I 'd love to have and I have heard a lot of opinions, but when the hammer drops(or firing pin) the bs stops. That's the final test for me.

 

[Ash]

Ah, but THAT is why they are called fanboys because they ARE juvenile.

Of course, there's not a thing in the world wrong with having 3 Glocks. That a fanboy does not make.

Ash

 

[AndyC]

Nothing wrong with the vast majority of guns available today - just some of their owners

 

[hill billy]

I should have mentioned that the way Larue tactical is literally talked about as some kind of god on arfcom absolutely insures that I will never buy anything with his name on it. What a (non THR approved word)

 

[Zak Smith]

One of the best lessons to learn is who to ignore.

 

[I LIKE IT!]

Seriously, who cares what others think.

Do the R&D yourself and learn not to rely on the opinions of others no matter who. "If you want something done right you gotta do it yourself"

Learn for yourself, end of story.

 

[candr44]

The fanboys juvenile attitudes are annoying and have turned me off to certain guns. They usually come off sounding like they think more with hormones and immature emotion than intelligence and objective reasoning. In other words, like they have been brain washed by their peers or their emotions dominate and cloud their reasoning. You can't have an intelligent and objective conversation with people like that so ignore them or shut them up by telling them their opinion means nothing to you.

By the way, the gun snobs and purist collectors are just as bad.

 

[The Tourist]

Seriously, who cares what others think. Learn for yourself, end of story.

Oh, because no matter how much some people squeal, they care intensely what others feel.

Truth be told, it took me years to deliberately ignore the criticism. Years.

Now granted, a drunken townie is an easy way to start, but lots of people get flustered over the labels on jeans, not to mention important issues.

When I first retired people still attempted to garner influence. I'd show up in black HD T-shirts and crappy blue jeans and there was always some dough-head who'd remark, "Tourist, you look like an unmade bed."

Now, my return snaps are now robotic and natural. I just say, "I just got out of an unmade bed, I'm retired, you're not..."

Living well is the best revenge. Trust me, for most people it might even take decades.

 

[buck00]

Them: "You idiot--DPMS is junk. Get Troy or LaRue parts. And switch that rifle buttstock for a SOPMOD. Also, get a mid-length, not a rifle-length."

haahahhahah

This is funny because its sooooooo true.

 

[Dorryn]

Boy, so many people hate HK that I have half a mind to get one now!

 

[jnyork]

I must hang around with the wrong crowd, until I read this thread I had never heard of the term "fanboys". Did we just invent a new word, or am I missing something important? What's the origin of "fanboy"?

 

[The Tourist]

I've heard the term "fanboy" used more for the guys who dress up for sci-fi conventions.

 

[blkbrd666]

This thread is hilarious and laughing is good for you. This thing has morphed from a fanbois thread to an AR15 thread to a Glock thread to a Hi-Point thread and it's STILL rockin'!

GOOD job Candiru on your choice of topic!!!

 

[IndianaBoy]

I hope that whoever came up with 'the chart' for AR 15 manufacturers gets anally raped by a rabid baboon.

 

[Appaloosa]

I have to admit I have sold a gun because of gun snobs.

After I turned 21, and was starting to get into semi auto pistols I bought a ruger P95. I would go to the local range to shoot it at the 25yrd targets to try and get better with it since I had only used revolvers before then, and was new to the semi auto.

Without fail I would get comments that only a pansy would use 9mm, while they totally ignored the 7.5 inch barrelled Ruger super blackhawk .44mag sitting next to it.

And if they were not slamming on the caliber they were slamming it because it was Ruger. It didn't matter that the gun wasn't jamming on me while shooting at the range.

So eventually like an idiot I sold a perfectly fine pistol. I thought maybe all these other shooters knew something I didn't since I was new to the whole auto pistol scene.

I have rented a Sig 226 at a indoor shooting range, and I just love that pistol. It felt so good in the hands, and I could shoot it well, but for the price of one I would rather buy another hunting rifle, and a decent scope.

 

[209]

Ah, but THAT is why they are called fanboys because they ARE juvenile.

Of course, there's not a thing in the world wrong with having 3 Glocks. That a fanboy does not make.

I own three Glocks .... for what I think is a very good reason. I carry a G23 at work and have the option of signing out a G27. I own my own G23 and G27 of my own. I added a G35 to my collection. The biggest reason I bought them is because I never have to vary my use of any of them. They all work the same, the techniques are the same, and they pretty much shoot the same. Plus, I can switch the larger magazines into the smaller models and use a lot of the same holsters. Also, ammo is interchangeable. What's not to like?

There are better guns out there. But, I'm pricing out new department guns now because we have had the current inventory of 23s for 8 years and it's time to trade them in. I'm probably going with Glocks as replacements. A seamless transition is the easiest way to go. No new training, no new ammo, just new guns. The gun is a decent platform. It performs well. My officers shoot it well. Why screw with success?

 

[siglite]

Without fail I would get comments that only a pansy would use 9mm,

Hah. Just invite them to go hold the target for you if it's so damned wimpy.

Chevy Sucks. My mustang is the FASTEST CAR ON THE ROAD (stock)

.45 > *

.308 over .30-06 any day.

The M16 is a much finer combat weapon than the M14.

My Honda eats Harleys for breakfast and poops 'em out before lunch.

If your barrel wasn't made by Douglass, you can't hit the broad side of a barn from inside.

All 1911s are jamomatics.

Kydex is better and faster than leather.

Only a fool carries less than two spare mags and a BUG.

Benchmade knives are god's gift to cutlery. Whatever else you have, is made from potmetal and won't hold an edge.

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