"Hi-Cap" mag ban thread (continued)

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jorg, just because i said "what are gun laws", i dont mean we dont have any. we just have very few. im pretty sure we are one of the top five states for gun owning. and i am 17, but i never said I was drinking the tequila now did i? i shoot with an older crowd (mostly family and family friends), so im used to sitting at the table with the elders after dinner when they have their whiskey/tequila and tell stories/tall tales.

as for being a minor, only for another 30 days. so will it be silly then?
 
Its great to be in Pennsylvania. I can carry any size mag I want, open or concealed. I can hunt with a my Yugo SKS with a 30 rd mag if I want, but I'd have to disable the gas system and make the gun a bolt action.
 
WhisperFan said:
I don't know why people keep saying this ....

That is true only in certain areas .... the Commonwealth of VA is much larger than just the Cities of Alexandria, Chesapeake, Fairfax, Falls Church, Newport News, Norfolk, Richmond, or Virginia Beach and the Counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Henrico, Loudoun, or Prince William. I know that people from these area seem to try to forget that Virginia has a lot more land to the west of the Eastern Shore.
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Thank you for the correction.
 
Utah-

If it's legal at the federal level, have at it. Open Carry is legal almost anywhere.(Although some places you'll get hassled)

Concealed carry? Anywhere but a very few places.

Carry where alcohol is served/sold on premesis? Fine. Seems our fearless leaders trust us to not be stupid in this regard.
 
arizona is not compleatly free, as another stated there are some mag restrictions put in place by game and fish for hunting. but if you can't hit it with 5 rounds with an auto loader, go back to camp and sleep it off, you shouldn't be hunting :)
 
New York State allows mags made before 1994 in any capacity

NYC limits the capacity for handguns at 17 rounds

Mags made after 1994 must be 10 rounds or less
 
"bah. 100 round drums, belt fed, tequila (not unti the shooting is done), and carne asada are better"




Yeh,.....belt fed is good...
 
Mags made after 1994 must be 10 rounds or less
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It's nice knowing that you have more than 10 rounds, but correct me if I'm wrong. In most exchanges of gun fire between two parties, perhaps 3, maybe 5 or 7 rounds are fired, and then it's over. The better shot or lucky one wins.
I recall reading somewhere that the average gun battle lasts about 7 seconds, the distance between shooters is anywhere from 3 to 15 feet, and 3 to 5 rounds (maybe) are fired by each party. Anyone have reliable stats?
 
it's really about spending less time reloading and more time shooting. even with a loader, loading up a mag is time-consuming, and you can spend less time exercising your thumb and more time practicing your technique if there aren't arbitrary limits on mag capacity. it's also the principle of the darned thing; if most gunfights are over in a few seconds, and the only real effect of the ban is to hassle people who are shooting legally at a range, then why implement it in the first place?
 
Amazingly, Illinois has no limits on magazine capacity, yet. It was proposed and passed by one house of the legislature, but remains tabled in the other. Gave me time to stock up on AR and Glock mags.
 
(E) “Automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. “Automatic firearm” also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges.
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That's very Washington-D.C-ish. A firearm suddenly becomes fully automatic because of the magazine size? Whether it's 12 or 30 or 100, magazine size has nothing to do with it. If they want to ban big magazines, then ban them. I mean I don't support the ban but at least they should be intellectually honest about it and quit trying to redefine the action of the gun based on the magazine size.
 
California allows the ownership and use of any capacity mag as long as it was owned prior to 12/31/1999. No import, sale, or transfer of any mags with a capacity >10 rounds as of 01/01/2000 (except of course for LEO). I bought mags for many guns I don't own back in 1999 just in case.
 
CAs mag law does not apply to rim fire fixed mags. ( think tube feed)

its also not illegal to import( and own) all the parts to build a hicap mag, but when you put them all toegther...
 
HI law law is for pistol mags. But darn it if a bunch of internet and catlog companies won't sell you any 30 rd rifle mags. I actually had to get a copy of the statute and mail it along with a letter from our local PD to get s certain company to sell me some mags.:mad::fire: Saved a bunch of $$$ in the end so it was worth it.:D
 
Halfbreed808:

While the HRS specific to magazine capacity refers to handguns, it also has a provision stating that:

(c) The manufacture, possession, sale, barter, trade, gift, transfer, or acquisition of detachable ammunition magazines with a capacity in excess of ten rounds which are designed for or capable of use with a pistol is prohibited. This subsection shall not apply to magazines originally designed to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition which have been modified to accept no more than ten rounds and which are not capable of being readily restored to a capacity of more than ten rounds.
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There are some who interprete this to mean you cannot have magazines for ARs and AKs that exceed 10 rounds as there are pistol varients available for these firearms. The fact that Hawaii law specifically forbids possession of these firearms seems to matter very little.

Some shops sell the "hi capacity" magazines for the ARs/AKs, some don't. I haven't been able to get Sportsman's Guide to ship here, who did you use? I need some more mags!

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0008.htm
 
No state is 100% free when it comes to gun laws the state that is closest to being really free is Vermont.
 
No state is 100% free when it comes to gun laws the state that is closest to being really free is Vermont.
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For such an extremely liberal state, I'm shocked to hear that. If Obama gets in, you won't be any longer..........:uhoh:
 
how is it that there's a 10-round limit in the entire state of ny but in nyc you're allowed a 17-round mag? wouldn't state law supersede city law? does anyone here live in the five boroughs and have a (legal) pistol mag with >10 rounds?
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Well apparently not or else I would be armed to the teeth now. State law says you need no license for rifles and shotguns. City law says you do so tough cookies.

Doesn't matter much anyway what the capacity is. You still need a license for the gun and unless you got friends in the government, you ain't getting one of those here........However if you got friends on the street, that's a different story. ;)
 
California law has no teeth as usual This little love note from Alison Merrilees also helps get "Parts Kits" into the state without breaking any laws.

Link to the PDF.
http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/DOJ-large-cap-magazines-2005-11-10.pdf

Thought you some of you might be interested in this interpretation of the law by a attorney that works for the California Department of Justice.


TAB said:
CAs mag law does not apply to rim fire fixed mags. ( think tube feed)

its also not illegal to import( and own) all the parts to build a hicap mag, but when you put them all toegther...
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if i wanted an illegal gun, i'd have one. the point of this thread is to clarify the laws- which do allow residents of the five boroughs to possess handguns in their homes, and to use said handguns at ranges. if you're curious, here is the link to the application process.
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The last part was really just a joke. And I know that you are technically allowed to own one, but they have to interview you and decide you have a good enough reason to have one. As I heard, they are very unlikely to decide you need one. Saying you live in a shady area and want one to protect your home or that your business got robbed at gun point several times is not really good enough reason for them.
 
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