Hi-point carbines get a new stock

[RedlegRick]

Now there's a movie that needs a proper remake.

One question I've had, which should be directed to the company, but I was thinking about their new 1095, but regs here specify no more than 6 in a magazine for a semi, but I think it'd make a dandy deer gun in that caliber, to the point I might break my rule about too many different calibers.
Is there a way to block them off myself? Curious is all.

 

[tsudduth]

The stock does look nice, but it takes the price of the carbine into $475.00 territory, and you can get a Ruger PC Carbine for that price - shipped, and the Ruger takes Glock magazines.

For me it was worth it. The highpoint is a good reliable gun and very accurate. With the new stock it is well balanced and just over 26 inches long with the same length barrel as the Ruger. There are 20 rd mags available from Redball. Although I'm not fond of the looks of the Redball mag, it still looks better than any other pc carbine on the market, IMO. And the quality is there along with a lifetime no matter if your the original owner or not.

 

[grilledcheese]

In November I also picked up one of the HTA bullpup stocks. Easy install and works surprisingly well, trigger is decent and adjustable and mag release is well placed on the trigger guard and easy to actuate. HK-ish charging handle mounted forward on the stock that is reversible. Yes, it cost as much as the gun did (actually a few bucks more), but I didn't have a whole bunch of choice. My daughter and her friends are big fans of the Halo video games, and after seeing the stock online she thought it would make a cool fictional weapon from a cool fictional universe. She also wanted a 9mm carbine. Soooooo, I give you the fictional Misriah Armory MA9K (actual 995ST with High Tower Armory MBS 95 stock, Sightmark red dot, and Magpul angled foregrip). She really had to twist my arm. Yep, sure did.

 

[drband]

In November I also picked up one of the HTA bullpup stocks. Easy install and works surprisingly well, trigger is decent and adjustable and mag release is well placed on the trigger guard and easy to actuate. HK-ish charging handle mounted forward on the stock that is reversible. Yes, it cost as much as the gun did (actually a few bucks more), but I didn't have a whole bunch of choice. My daughter and her friends are big fans of the Halo video games, and after seeing the stock online she thought it would make a cool fictional weapon from a cool fictional universe. She also wanted a 9mm carbine. Soooooo, I give you the fictional Misriah Armory MA9K (actual 995ST with High Tower Armory MBS 95 stock, Sightmark red dot, and Magpul angled foregrip). She really had to twist my arm. Yep, sure did.
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NICE! Who says you can't blend fantasy with reality!

 

[kBob]

grilledcheese,

400 Good Daddy points!

Now get her to read the first couple of Kris Longknife series of books by Mike Sheppard.

-kBob

 

[RedlegRick]

It does look cool like that, but I still stand by my earlier statement.

However, once upon a time, I semi-seriously considered making one of those Century Sterling pistols into an Imperial Stormtrooper sidearm, just to say it could be done, but that was before SAFE here.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

I really like the looks of the new stock. But most importantly I would want to actually shoot one. How heavy is it? People keep saying it is twice as much as the gun. Ok so what? Still not that expensive. It the new stock is easy to carry, easy to shoot then why not. I also see Hipoint has a new pistol out as well. I am not interested, but will not be out to bash the gun either.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I think it looks really nice, but I can build a nice AR 9 and have change left over. But if this stock floats your boat, go for it. No one will be telling you that you have an ugly gun.

 

[H&R Glock]

I just ordered one of those plastic beautifier stocks for my ugly Hi-Point 995. Does anyone know what one has to do to PAINT the stock?? Will the new rattle can paints that are used for spraying plastic lawn furniture work? The basic black color just does not suit me as well as white or yellow or red or desert sand.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

I really do not know much about the Hi points, other than watching a guy at the range doing some really nice shooting with one. The Thread is about the new stock, but not much to learn here. For those that are actually interested to learn, here is a video I saw. I know the stocks are new, and would bet they sell for less down the road. And I see there is a 1-2 month waiting list to get one. I am not interested in purchasing one, but I have found out in life, you never say never. And if given the chance would enjoy the opportunity to shoot one.

features

• Compact bullpup design
  Aluminum Picatinny optics rail
  Aluminum bedding block
  Modular assembly
  Tooless field strip
  Shell deflector included for ambidextrous use
  Military grade polymer body construction
  Melonited steel ambidextrous charging handle
  Melonited steel trigger linkage
  Melonited steel magazine release linkage
  Fits all models of the Hi-Point Carbine
  Made in the USA

 

[DukeConnor]

if you are buying the carbine and stock at the same time it doesn't make much financial sense.

if you already have the carbine then it makes sense.

 

[bassjam]

I've been watching this since HTA announced they had a prototype. I find the stock on my 995ts a little clunky, plus the springs grab my beard so I don't shoot it much. The HTA seems very well made from what I've been able to find, but I just can't bring myself to spend $250 to accessorize a gun I bought for $200. I keep hoping I can find a used stock for a decent price someday, but that's a long shot.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

Obviously the product is new and the demand is high. Down the road if production gets ramped up, and the cost was below the cost of the firearm, would that be a different story. Especially if the new Stock made a big difference in Carry and shooting ability. I know of one popular 9mm carbine right now, I would not pay half of what they are asking. Damn thing is heavy and prone to all kinds of problems. Yet very popular. Go figure and it cost more than the Hipoint with stock.

 

[C0untZer0]

I'd buy that stock if only they made it in Cocobola...

 

[GunnyUSMC]

It might be the fact that when people buy something cheap and it works, they don't want to spend the same amount or more to make it a little better. Or it could be that they just don't want to fork out the cash. But you can come up with a lot of reasons why some people wont by one, but I bet the number one factor is that the stock cost about the same as the rifle.
I know the guys over at Aklys Defense. They make the ZK-22 stock for the Ruger 20/11. It sells for $229. I told Joe if he dropped the price to $150 to $189 that he would sell a ton more. He said the cost of the mold is what has taken the longest to recover from and they are still trying to make a profit. So it may be a while before you see the price on the new Hi-point stock come down.

 

[RedlegRick]

It might be the fact that when people buy something cheap and it works, they don't want to spend the same amount or more to make it a little better. Or it could be that they just don't want to fork out the cash. But you can come up with a lot of reasons why some people wont by one, but I bet the number one factor is that the stock cost about the same as the rifle.
I know the guys over at Aklys Defense. They make the ZK-22 stock for the Ruger 20/11. It sells for $229. I told Joe if he dropped the price to $150 to $189 that he would sell a ton more. He said the cost of the mold is what has taken the longest to recover from and they are still trying to make a profit. So it may be a while before you see the price on the new Hi-point stock come down.
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I'm no lawyer, but I'm familiar with the term 'trade dress', as in a product's appearance is distinctive enough that is enough to identify the maker. While that's a handsome looking stock, it looks quite similar to FNs P90. How did they get around that, if I may ask?

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I'm no lawyer, but I'm familiar with the term 'trade dress', as in a product's appearance is distinctive enough that is enough to identify the maker. While that's a handsome looking stock, it looks quite similar to FNs P90. How did they get around that, if I may ask?

Not sure, but High Tower Armory had put one out similar to it and got into a little hot water with FN.

 

[kcofohio]

Well I must be a sucker. I put my name down on High Tower's waiting list. Their site says 6-8 weeks waiting.

I'm going to get it for my 9mm fugly, the one that reminds me of an oblong rhino. They call it the classic. Hard to imagine anything Hi-point considered "classic".

 

[H&R Glock]

Here is the real new stock. Arrived quick, with no instructions. The worst part was disassembly of the old piece.
BEFORE

AFTER

Somewhat more appealing to the viewer, but troublesome.
The new stock will not let the mag seat deep enough to insure the empty brass id ejected. I have to push the mag up about 2-3mm before the brass ejects. Hello customer service????

 

[RedlegRick]

Hate to say, in my opinion, the classic stock just looks better. I liked that Planet of the Apes vibe it gave off to me. Now I wish I hadn't given mine to my sister. But to each their own.

 

[kcofohio]

Hate to say, in my opinion, the classic stock just looks better. I liked that Planet of the Apes vibe it gave off to me. Now I wish I hadn't given mine to my sister. But to each their own.

It does have a uniqueness about them.

I have a 40 & 45 in the TS. They are easier to strip down compared to the old style. But I never felt compelled to switch the 9 over. But I do have a certain curiousity about converting the 9 over to a bullpup style.

 

[kcofohio]

The 995 is truly ugly. I'll have to admit it has never failed to feed, fire, or have any malfunction, with the exception of small parts falling off. No sweat as HiPoint replaced them free.
You'd be surprised at how good this old carbine looks with a new stock!
BEFORE
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AFTER
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Looks 100% better with the new stock, don't ya think so?
Yes the new stock cost more than twice as much as the whole old gun!

I'm trying to figure if missed a punch line here or not.

 

[Taurus 617 CCW]

The 995 and 995 TS are truly an ugly guns but they work in their original configurations. I explored other stock options for it but came to the conclusion as many others have...Its not worth the money to upgrade. It shoots just fine the way it is. To me another $250 is the difference between buying a new .22 pistol or not. I would rather take the new .22 pistol than a slightly better stock. But that's just my opinion.

 

[H&R Glock]

I was wrong about the malfunction I mentioned with the TS stock. The failure of the gun to manually eject dummy cartridges or snap caps is a known problem. Hi-Point told me that today. I took the gun out and put some live ammo in it and it functioned perfectly.
True, the TS is no beauty queen, but it sure looks a hell of a lot better with the TS stock.
Now I have two 9mm carbines with which I can blow away 2-3 thousand reloads I have in my inventory. Why not? I figure therez no way I can take it with me to the cemetary, but I will have the old 995 ugly stock buried with me!