HI Point Firearms what does anyone know about these

[platform]

Hi-Point 9mm C Compensated with Laser. Paid 180. Very accurate, including past 25 yards. Excellent sights.
Took of the laser (because did not practice enough
to use it effectively)

Has failure to Feed only with S&B frangeable
(very consistently) and some old Wolf ammo.

100% reliability with anything else tried (Remington UMC, Winchester white box, CCI blazer, Silver Bear, Federal).

It it is a blow-back operated design. (So the barrel is attached to the frame). It supports +P ammo. The slide is heavy and therefore requires ammunition that properly
can cycle the slide (and apparently S&B frangeable and wolf classic I had -- were not one of those -- I had only one batch of those two rounds, since '03 because I bought too many rounds of S&B and wolf).

I do not remember if other ammo tried, not sure if any
+P was tried specifically.


The gun supports single stack magazines only.
Requires little cleaning.

Dis-assembly procedure requires a punch and hammer
to remmove a pin.

Consistent, short, trigger pul -- Single action.

Very easy to cock the slide, for not-so-strong
people. Also it is easy to grip, as the slide is big.

Has a safety lever on the frame.

Absolutely not good for carry (
guns is big, slide is huge and prone to self-cock when
re-holstered, in my opinion)

The customer service is great and is for Life-time.

I do not see any valid reason to have a more expensive in-home or in-car single-stack 9mm (unless one just likes to buy/practice with/talk about/collect guns -- which many of us do ).

I think this article is pretty accurate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Point_C-9_and_C-9_Comp

 

[tnieto2004]

A high point in the hand beats a 1911 at the house!

 

[hksw]

I have no doubt, that they will not go 100,000 rounds,...

If it breaks before then, just send it back and get it repaired or replaced for free.

 

[stevereno1]

They are great pistols for the money. I hope all gun shops would stock these as people who are on a limited budget deserve to prootect themselves too. I've been there!

 

[JohnKSa]

I figured if the Hi-Point got a little rust spot on it

ZAMAK-3 does not rust.

If it breaks before then, just send it back and get it repaired or replaced for free.

From what I understand they usually send it back with a free magazine or two as a perq.

Of course if it breaks when you NEED it, customer service (even if it comes with a free magazine) is a pale comfort.

 

[tatters]

My HiPoint C9 has been great through many rounds without fail. Pretty ugly, but accurate and easy to shoot. They are kind of hard to clean, just a little solvent in the right places, good to go.

I also have a 995 carbine. Also ugly but unbelievably accurate and reliable.

 

[CajunBass]

If you're considering a High Point why not call some of your better local gunsmiths and see if any of them would repair or work on one.

Frankly I wouldn't care if a gunsmith would work on it or not. I wouldn't pay their labor rate to fix a $140.00 gun. As for their opinion of it, I wouldn't expect them to have a very high one. So what? I know myself it's not a "high quality" gun. I paid $140.00 for it. I didn't think it was a Colt Gold Cup. That doesn't mean it doesn't work.

Mine runs like a watch. A Timex of course.

 

[CZJedi]

My cousin had a Hi-Point (we now look back on it and call it a the "Low-Point") C-9 COMP about 5 years ago. It would fail to feed, stove pipe, and jamb constantly. He sent it back to be fixed (free of charge less shipping) and had the same problem. He sent it back again (again, free of charge less shipping), and got it back with the same problems. He finally called the company to send it back a third time and the owner of High-Point got on the phone with him. The owner told him "Of course I stand behind my products... I'm a f***ing American!" My cousing was then told he could send back the gun for a refund, and was sent a check for the original price (with tax and background check) plus what he paid in shipping for all three returns.

 

[jahwarrior]

well, at least he got a refund.

 

[doktor_x]

My brother had one (chambered in 9mm) a few years back. The balance is comparatively weird and only its mother could could call it pretty, but for the money it seemed like a decent gun. He was happy with it, and that's the important thing. It served its role as very cost-effective peace of mind.

 

[hksw]

Of course if it breaks when you NEED it, customer service (even if it comes with a free magazine) is a pale comfort.

True for any firearm.

 

[JohnKSa]

True for any firearm.

Of course it is. What varies is the likelihood of needing customer service.

 

[mljdeckard]

I DON'T WANT TO GET IT FIXED FOR FREE. I WANT IT TO NOT BREAK IN THE FIRST PLACE. To ME, cheap or free to fix is not a strong selling point.

Having said that, my only experience with them was when I was out shooting with a relative of a friend, mostly big revolvers, (I mean .44 mag and UP, it was the day I took the scope ridge of a .50 AE in the forehead,) and this guy was such a 'hunting weapons only' snob, he was convinced that if there was a job you couldn't do with a .454 Casull, it wasn't worth doing. No rifles in military calibers, no 'service' pistols of any kind. Openly said that my M-1 Carbine, SKS, and WASR were toys with no real purpose.

At the end of the day, after my hands were numb fron shooting a hundred or so rounds through elephant pistols, he pulled out three little high-point pistols. He didn't say it out loud, but I got that since he wanted to be thorough and own every caliber under the sun, but he was such a snob he wouldn't spend any real money on 'service' pistols, we shot a hundred rounds or so through each of them. If they jammed in any way, I don't recall, but nor do I recall that they were any pleasure to shoot.

Yes, they worked. Yes, they will probably work for a longer lifetime than most shooters will ever need. But there is a point at which you get what you pay for. I don't see these guns getting any LE or defense contracts from anyone ever. Like others have said; save a little more cash, find a used Glock or CZ.

 

[Jamesmb]

Hi

Well I got to try out my CF380 today. First time ever shooting a semi-automatic handgun and I shot 150 rounds, and several jammed loaded and empty shells alike. Maybe I am doing something wrong or is just this break in? One of the people of the 3 ranges I went to today said they need about a 300 to 500 rounds to get them ready, though he was not crazy on Hi Point. I started using 50 rounds of fmc by Georgia Arms then 100 rounds of Winchester.

I saw a Kel Tec P-3AT for about $260 is this a good price?

 

[713832281]

i used to have one in 9mm, and it was horrible. too many jams for me to be happy and got rid of it!

 

[W.E.G.]

 

[makarovnik]

Cheap and nasty. You remember the song. Anyway, they do work but I don't trust one in the pipe with the Hi-Points. The compact models are big for a "compact" but are small enough to carry in a good holster. The large frame models seem to be more reliable but are so top/front heavy it's rediculous.

 

[WAID]

Butt ugly, feel top heavy, cheap, you get what you pay for kinda guns but of the people I know that have them they are surprisingly reliable. The main secret to their reliability is making sure the magazine is clean and lightly oiled.

 

[hatchetbearer]

a guy i worked with had the 9mm pistol and the carbine, he was a former deputy and said he wouldnt have touched them unless his dept. issued them but the carbine is accurate as all hell and the pistol is decent, not enough to put your life up against it but fun to shoot regardless. he also told me to make sure you get as new of one as possible as they did a redesign on the internals

 

[stevereno1]

honestly, they are not a great gun, but for the money, it beats the heck out of defending yourself against a hostile threat with your hands alone.

 

[No Exit]

I got a HiPoint 9mm pistol from my brothers estate among other things & guess what? It works like a champ. Here's the deal. It looks like the real thing but like the above post it feels like a brick. Very heavy. I would not want to carry this thing concealed. It is kind of fun to shoot at the range but not a frontline weapon. Keep it oiled up & cleaned & it will shoot fine it is just way too heavy. However, strange as it seems, this pistol is equipped w/ nite sights, likely as expensive as the pistol. Interesting.

 

[bardicg]

wwat

I own the 45ACP and the 9mm Luger both are ridiculously accurate and when people say they are heavy they really don’t know what they are talking about. They are no heavier than anything else in their class. Just all of the weight is in the slide and that is to reduce the kick. The only problem is the cheesy grips. I found a guy who sells rubberized replacement grips that beat the sox off any glock I’ve held. And as far as accuracy I have better luck than most guys with a scoped AR14 from 25-30+ yards away. The gun operates so simple there really isn’t anything to break and even if it does just call them up and the new one will be in the mail. I would put my life on one of these guns. I carry the 9mm and sleep next to my 45. If anyone tells you not to buy this gun its only because their pockets go deeper than their logic. any other questions?

 

[DerbyDale]

I DON'T WANT TO GET IT FIXED FOR FREE. I WANT IT TO NOT BREAK IN THE FIRST PLACE. To ME, cheap or free to fix is not a strong selling point.

Could someone please tell me what brand and model that is?
(Does Maytag make firearms now? )
I was not aware there was a firearm that can NEVER break in the first place...

I also didn't know my Hi-Point 9mm carbine was supposed to break. I've owned it for a few years and never had one problem...ever. Just like Wile E Coyote and gravity... Now that I have learned just how big of a POS it is... I bet it will jam and break constantly.

 

[Mooseman]

This is going to sound goofy but there's a super easy fix for the slightly slick grip on the 45. Bike inner tube. I know it sounds silly but you take an overly large piece of inner tube and gently work it over the grip with the magazine out until you have it positioned as you want it then trim off the excess. I can't remember who turned me on to this idea but it works really well, and if you don't like it there's only about $5 invested.

 

[bardicg]

grip

Bag that idea. look at what I've got. It wasn’t expensive and its not any bike part. It looks really shiny here but its not. its a rubberized grip with some grit to it. got one for my 45 too. And I wasn’t kidding when I said it makes the glock feel plastic.