what most people will tell you is they're cheap, ugly, heavy crap. which is true. what they won't say is that they're solid, reliable, affordable guns, for when you can't afford to buy a Les Baer. my brother has 2, both in .45ACP, and both work well. they're not something i'd carry, as they're huge, but they're perfect for home defense, or truck/toolbox guns. and they're 100% american made, and have an airtight warranty.